When the new core rulebooks were being released, some recent releases like the Infinite Staircase and the Vecna: Eve of Ruin book were labeled with 'Compatible with the 2024 Core Rulebooks' in the marketplace. But now, even Tasha's Cauldron and Xanathar's guide, amongst others, are labeled 'Compatible with the New Core Rulebooks'.
What exactly does this mean? Did they change the way it interacts with the races/species and classes? Can you use Xanathar's Hexblade Warlock on a 2024 Warlock? And will you get the subclass at level 1 or 3 then?
I also am not quite sure if I used the Forum correctly, so if I didn't please let me know how to use it for next time!
Unfortunately, that "compatible" label appears to mostly be a marketing thing without any clearly defined meaning for the rules.
The general rule for using character options from old books is that you can use options that haven't been updated yet for the 2024 rules. If an option has been updated, you need to use the updated version. This means that some of the character options in books like Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and Xanathar's Guide to Everything are eligible to be used under the new rules, and some of them are not.
To answer your specific question, there is (as of yet) no 2024 version of the Hexblade subclass, so you can use it on the 2024 Warlock class. You would get the subclass selection at level 3, because that's when the 2024 Warlock class says you get your subclass.
When the new core rulebooks were being released, some recent releases like the Infinite Staircase and the Vecna: Eve of Ruin book were labeled with 'Compatible with the 2024 Core Rulebooks' in the marketplace. But now, even Tasha's Cauldron and Xanathar's guide, amongst others, are labeled 'Compatible with the New Core Rulebooks'.
What exactly does this mean? Did they change the way it interacts with the races/species and classes? Can you use Xanathar's Hexblade Warlock on a 2024 Warlock? And will you get the subclass at level 1 or 3 then?
I also am not quite sure if I used the Forum correctly, so if I didn't please let me know how to use it for next time!
It's a clarification that the 2024 core rulebooks (and all books beyond) are not a new edition or a soft-reboot of 5th edition—you can continue to use your 2014 books in conjunction with 2024 books and beyond.
As for specific cases, the 2024 Player's Handbook provides some guidelines (which have been reiterated in various ways across a lot of interviews, videos, etc). It boils down to the following:
If both a 2024 and 2014 version of something exist, use the 2024 version where possible.
If you're using an option A that references option B, try and use options from the same 'release' where possible
For example, if you're playing a 2024 Wizard and want to go Evoker, you should take the 2024 subclass. However if you want to go Necromancer you'll have to take the 2014 version. But if you're playing a 2014 Wizard, you should ideally only pick 2014 spells for that Wizard.
However, this is just guidelines for the best compatibility experience and you can disregard if you wish. You could totally play a 2024 Wizard taking 2014 Evocation subclass and pick a mix of 2014 and 2024 versions of spells.
That's what compatible in this context means—you can mix and match and things will generally speaking work but you may hit some friction. For example any 2014 feature that references exhaustion may behave slightly differently from intended if you're using the (changed) 2024 exhaustion rules. Or how one of the 2014 druid subclasses interacts with I think a conjure X spell and those spells have changed between 2014 and 2024 meaning the 2024 version of the spell doesn't play too nicely with the 2014 subclass
When the new core rulebooks were being released, some recent releases like the Infinite Staircase and the Vecna: Eve of Ruin book were labeled with 'Compatible with the 2024 Core Rulebooks' in the marketplace. But now, even Tasha's Cauldron and Xanathar's guide, amongst others, are labeled 'Compatible with the New Core Rulebooks'.
What exactly does this mean? Did they change the way it interacts with the races/species and classes? Can you use Xanathar's Hexblade Warlock on a 2024 Warlock? And will you get the subclass at level 1 or 3 then?
I also am not quite sure if I used the Forum correctly, so if I didn't please let me know how to use it for next time!
I would assume it means it's backward compatible, unless they took aims to revise everything so it fits with 2024. If someone has access to one of the books, perhaps they can shed light on how it jives with the digital Beyond character sheet?
That's what compatible in this context means—you can mix and match and things will generally speaking work but you may hit some friction. For example any 2014 feature that references exhaustion may behave slightly differently from intended if you're using the (changed) 2024 exhaustion rules. Or how one of the 2014 druid subclasses interacts with I think a conjure X spell and those spells have changed between 2014 and 2024 meaning the 2024 version of the spell doesn't play too nicely with the 2014 subclass
For any wondering: This is in reference to the Shepherd Druid from Xanathar's and their feature that grants bonus HP to summons based on hit dice. Old Conjure spells summoned creatures, new Conjure spells have other effects. Summon spells don't use hit dice, so it doesn't apply to them.
Ahh okay, I got it. Thanks to all of you for not letting me waste money since I was going for 2024 rules only. I'll wait for the updated species and subclasses then, thanks!
Ahh okay, I got it. Thanks to all of you for not letting me waste money since I was going for 2024 rules only. I'll wait for the updated species and subclasses then, thanks!
In that case, I'd advise still looking into Monsters of the Multiverse. It came out just this last year and it's unlikely we're getting most of those species reprinted for a while. While it calls the old versions of spells on the species, you could create a homebrew copy and update those. (Some don't even need it, some spells were unchanged.)
Or if you use Avrae on Discord, it pulls the right version if you have your character settings set up for 2024.
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When the new core rulebooks were being released, some recent releases like the Infinite Staircase and the Vecna: Eve of Ruin book were labeled with 'Compatible with the 2024 Core Rulebooks' in the marketplace. But now, even Tasha's Cauldron and Xanathar's guide, amongst others, are labeled 'Compatible with the New Core Rulebooks'.
What exactly does this mean? Did they change the way it interacts with the races/species and classes? Can you use Xanathar's Hexblade Warlock on a 2024 Warlock? And will you get the subclass at level 1 or 3 then?
I also am not quite sure if I used the Forum correctly, so if I didn't please let me know how to use it for next time!
Unfortunately, that "compatible" label appears to mostly be a marketing thing without any clearly defined meaning for the rules.
The general rule for using character options from old books is that you can use options that haven't been updated yet for the 2024 rules. If an option has been updated, you need to use the updated version. This means that some of the character options in books like Tasha's Cauldron of Everything and Xanathar's Guide to Everything are eligible to be used under the new rules, and some of them are not.
To answer your specific question, there is (as of yet) no 2024 version of the Hexblade subclass, so you can use it on the 2024 Warlock class. You would get the subclass selection at level 3, because that's when the 2024 Warlock class says you get your subclass.
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It's a clarification that the 2024 core rulebooks (and all books beyond) are not a new edition or a soft-reboot of 5th edition—you can continue to use your 2014 books in conjunction with 2024 books and beyond.
As for specific cases, the 2024 Player's Handbook provides some guidelines (which have been reiterated in various ways across a lot of interviews, videos, etc). It boils down to the following:
For example, if you're playing a 2024 Wizard and want to go Evoker, you should take the 2024 subclass. However if you want to go Necromancer you'll have to take the 2014 version. But if you're playing a 2014 Wizard, you should ideally only pick 2014 spells for that Wizard.
However, this is just guidelines for the best compatibility experience and you can disregard if you wish. You could totally play a 2024 Wizard taking 2014 Evocation subclass and pick a mix of 2014 and 2024 versions of spells.
That's what compatible in this context means—you can mix and match and things will generally speaking work but you may hit some friction. For example any 2014 feature that references exhaustion may behave slightly differently from intended if you're using the (changed) 2024 exhaustion rules. Or how one of the 2014 druid subclasses interacts with I think a conjure X spell and those spells have changed between 2014 and 2024 meaning the 2024 version of the spell doesn't play too nicely with the 2014 subclass
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I would assume it means it's backward compatible, unless they took aims to revise everything so it fits with 2024. If someone has access to one of the books, perhaps they can shed light on how it jives with the digital Beyond character sheet?
For any wondering: This is in reference to the Shepherd Druid from Xanathar's and their feature that grants bonus HP to summons based on hit dice. Old Conjure spells summoned creatures, new Conjure spells have other effects. Summon spells don't use hit dice, so it doesn't apply to them.
Ahh okay, I got it. Thanks to all of you for not letting me waste money since I was going for 2024 rules only. I'll wait for the updated species and subclasses then, thanks!
In that case, I'd advise still looking into Monsters of the Multiverse. It came out just this last year and it's unlikely we're getting most of those species reprinted for a while. While it calls the old versions of spells on the species, you could create a homebrew copy and update those. (Some don't even need it, some spells were unchanged.)
Or if you use Avrae on Discord, it pulls the right version if you have your character settings set up for 2024.