Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
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Is anyone other than myself saddened that the Tortle didn't get imported into the Heroes of Faerun? It could use a 5.5 update.
Just because it wasn't reprinted in Heroes of Faerun, that doesn't mean it won't. If it does get a 5.5 update, it'll likely be in a more suitable book.
So no, I wasn't "saddened" by it as it wasn't something I expected
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I think the old version still works just fine mechanically. That being said, I do think they could have included some minor or regional species like tortle and tabaxi in the book even if they would have mostly been reprints.
To be fair, the only two races from Monsters of the Multiverse that have been reprinted for 2024 were the new PHB entries, iirc.
The shifter was also in the Eberron book.
To be honest, the main reason why I want to see old species reprinted soon even with little or no changes is that some DMs don't allow any content from before the updated PHB.
There’ve been five species from MotM updated for 2024 so far: the Aasimar, Goliath and Orc in the PHB and the Changeling and Shifter in Eberron: Forge of the Artificer.
At some point, though I suspect not in the near future, there’ll probably be an updated MotM, hopefully (probably?) with some new species to fill the gaps left by the already updated ones.
Ah, forgot about Eberron. Honestly, I’d expect most of what’s in MotM to just ride for a while- why reinvent the wheel?
Yes, most of them should work fine (I’ve been playing a Centaur Ranger/Monk using 2024 rules and haven’t hit any snags). There’s a couple that could do with an update: the Bugbear (“squeezing” is no longer a rule) and I think the Earth Genasi (due to how Blade Ward now works) spring to mind.
I'm a little disgruntled about that. MotM was meant to be the first of the new edition (for lack of a better word), then they legacy-ed some of the stuff a year and a half later. I wish they'd either left that stuff out of MotM (and replaced it with other species), or used different ones in the PHB. Not a big deal...but it was a bit frustrating to have the "new edition material" replaced so quickly.
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I don’t think they’d finalised the PHB species at the time of the release of MotM. For example, we had the Ardling (the animal-headed celestial-like species) appear during the PHB playtest.
They had finalised one of the books when they did the other though. They could easily have picked other species for the PHB. MotM was supposed to be 5.5e-ready.
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They could have done, yes. Not sure what would have made good choices for the PHB though. They tried something new with the Ardling but the reception for it wasn’t positive enough for them to continue.
The spread of species in the PHB is actually pretty good: we’ve got “mundane” but classic fantasy species (Human, Dwarf, Halfling, Orc) and others representing many of the most prominent creature types (Fey/Elves, Giants/Goliaths, Dragons/Dragonborns, Fiends/Tieflings and Celestials/Aasimars). (Not quite sure where the Gnome fits into that scheme.)
To be honest I really didn't understand the rage about Ardlings. Seemed fine to me. Seemed to be more a backlash against "new" than anything else.
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I think the problem was that the Ardlings were trying to represent two different things: Celestial creatures and theriomorphic species (like Tortles and Tabaxi). Unfortunately, some people wanted them to be more Celestial and some wanted them to be more theriomorphic. They tried them out in two different UAs, leaning into the two different aspects, but I imagine they couldn’t find a version that seemed to satisfy everyone.
I think you can see that theme of Celestial beasts being explored in the MM, with various sentient beasts (eg, Giant Eagle, Giant Elk) and beast-like monstrosities (Sphinx, Guardian Naga) being changed to Celestials, plus the addition of the Animal Lords.
I thought the hatred of Ardlings was due to malicious people pulling a Something Awful at furries getting a bone thrown their way.
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I don't see why Tortles would be expected to appear in Heroes of Faerun.
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