Hasbro/WOTC: Recognize the union or you will lose me as a customer

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Are we talking about of the US version of unions, then as an European I find that not so good because US unions are not real unions they are guilds disguised as union because in my opinion an union should be an non-profit organization and not an organization that you have to be a member to benefit off it. 

 Well, historically speaking that's pretty much reversed -- requiring membership to benefit from a union goes all the way back to the origin of unions, because the purpose of unions is to benefit the union members, and while ideally union dues are entirely spent on services for the union members, a certain amount of skimming also goes back to the origins of unions (though there's a line drawing question; people who are doing extra work on behalf of the union deserve fair compensation for their effort, so at what point does this cross the line into profiteering?) Non-profits that support non-members are  more properly understood as lobbying groups and/or charities.

I'd love to add more to that particular discussion with details about how unions also often improved conditions for non-members, but I think getting bogged down into the intricacies of unions and their history in the US would probably stray a bit too far from the D&D-centric nature of this forum.

I agree with the earlier sentiment that a widespread, organized drive by consumers to support the unionization effort would be more effective than one or two folks posting here. Which isn't to say "don't bother" or anything of the sort. Just... manage your expectations. And if you really want to be heard, get together with some friends (or make some new ones) who feel similarly and organize an email campaign. As for me personally, I've never felt super comfortable boycotting to support a union unless they specifically ask for it. Tanking sales to support people whose jobs depend on those sales feels... iffy. But hey, I'm not a labor or economics expert or anything, so take anything I say with a grain of salt.

Regardless, I think the folks who work on MTG and D&D are amazingly talented and hard working and they deserve all the support. 

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Quote from BenMitchell1979 >>

Until Hasbo recognizes this union, I will NEVER buy another product from WOTC/Hasbro. Currently I own damn near everything on D&DBeyond, Physical books, WizKids minis based on WoTC content... I will continue to use my existing content because I love the game, but not another cent of my money will go Hasbro. The only voice these corporations understand is when we stop spending. I just cancelled my D&D subscription. After I wrap up my current campaign, I'll be moving my players to Dagger Heart. 

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Are we talking about of the US version of unions, then as an European I find that not so good because US unions are not real unions they are guilds disguised as union because in my opinion an union should be an non-profit organization and not an organization that you have to be a member to benefit off it you see it with SAG-AFTRA people who are nort part of it are not allowed to work in their profession because of it.  Compered to European Unions who have to be non-profit  and were there streiks also help non members. 

You are misinformed. Not all unions in the US follow the model of Hollywood trade guilds like SAG-AFTRA. That's simply not factual. 

Also, people who are not a member of a union frequently benefit from them -- for example, if a shop has both union and non-union members, the minimum pay rate established by the union contract will quite often by enjoyed by non-members as well.

In the US, damn near every right we have as citizens in the realm of employment law are the result of unions shedding sweat and very literal blood.

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Also, people who are not a member of a union frequently benefit from them -- for example, if a shop has both union and non-union members, the minimum pay rate established by the union contract will quite often by enjoyed by non-members as well.

The purpose of a union is to benefit the members. This doesn't mean it doesn't benefit non-members, it frequently does, but that's a happy accident, not a design goal.

SAG-AFTRA doesn't benefit non-union talent.

Need I bring up Hazbin Hotel's transition from YouTube pilot to Amazon series? How much fresh & new yet not able to afford SAG-AFTRA fees talent got shafted in favor of union actors in that process?

But yeah, before the 80s, US unions had a shitton more stability & power. Then Ronald Reagan deregulated EVERYTHING.

I don't think Hasbro will let WotC recongnize any union, especially because Delaware(Where Hasbro is incorporated) feels like the kind of place where nasty Reagan-era "right-to-work" laws effectively ban such.