New underdark UA

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So, how do you get to them, such as this one? I only found this one because someone posted a link in the thread I made. I’d like to be part of the conversations but I can’t ever find them. Same for the last few UAs. 

 If you go to the “Rules” section at the top of the website you’ll find Unearthed Arcana there. There’s usually a news item on the home page when they release stuff or a thread (either official or by a user) appears on the forums to give you a heads up 

Quote from Kaboom979 >>

Not sure how I feel about the Freedom Domain Cleric. It just kinda feels like Freedom of Movement the subclass. Id definitely like it more if Invoke Liberty allowed the Cleric to end Possession affecting allies (either at level 3 or at level 9), as exorcising controlling spirits seems on theme for this subclass and Clerics in general. Overall, it feels like this subclass is mechanically designed around increased movement, but is themed to fight against evils of things like starvation, poverty, tyranny, etc. which doesnt quite mesh.

I love the idea of an unarmored cleric. Everything else though...

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Sure, but I believe the people who care about UA are a fairly small minority of the D&D playerbase.

 Of course - but like, I'm still grateful? Most of the v1 UA have been way worse than the finished product, and we have ourselves to thank for that. Just think how horrible it would have been if we didn't review bomb their first draft of the 2024 Monk.

Sure the community doesn't always get it right (*sighs towards Moon Druid templates getting scrapped*) but overall I think the process does more good than not. And clearly they think so too or they wouldn't keep doing it, it's not like they're contractually obligated to keep running the program.

Thank you so much!

Quote from JaimeVonCarstein >>

When is this going to be released?

By the way, I honestly don't understand why there are people complaining about getting certain playable races. I mean, is there anyone forcing you to play them? That kind of behaviour reminds me of Samuel L. Jackson in Django ("Look, master, that one has a horse." "And do you want a horse, Stephen? "What do I want a horse for? What I want is for him not to have one!").

 I am just as eager. The Monk in the party running through my Campaign instantly went for the Mystic Arts Monk, they just got level 3 last session and we're playing. This class looks like a gem. Nice one!

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• Give 5 other party members one prof another has for the day- sounds good at first, but honestly kinda underwhelming given it's a single skill being shared around; facilitates group stealth if the DM is of the "if one person fails then effectively the whole party failed" school of thought, but in general seems like it'll mostly be camped on something like Perception, Insight, Persuasion/Deception, or Stealth most of the time, and enabling brute force attempts at skill checks just doesn't sound fun

I think you're way underrating how much utility this feature would have. Doing research on something important but have to follow multiple leads? Everyone gets Investigation (or History or Religion or whatever would be most useful). Invited for dinner by the BBEG and can't afford to give away your plans? Everyone gets Deception. Going shopping? Everyone gets Persuasion.

It's less for group checks and more for when you might find yourself in a situation where you can't guarantee the party member strongest in that skill will be the one making a key role

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• Give 5 other party members one prof another has for the day- sounds good at first, but honestly kinda underwhelming given it's a single skill being shared around; facilitates group stealth if the DM is of the "if one person fails then effectively the whole party failed" school of thought, but in general seems like it'll mostly be camped on something like Perception, Insight, Persuasion/Deception, or Stealth most of the time, and enabling brute force attempts at skill checks just doesn't sound fun

 

I think you're way underrating how much utility this feature would have. Doing research on something important but have to follow multiple leads? Everyone gets Investigation (or History or Religion or whatever would be most useful). Invited for dinner by the BBEG and can't afford to give away your plans? Everyone gets Deception. Going shopping? Everyone gets Persuasion.

It's less for group checks and more for when you might find yourself in a situation where you can't guarantee the party member strongest in that skill will be the one making a key role

Sure, but the point stands that it effectively just brute-forces success via weight of numbers, and would tend to negate the point of the donor being the specialist in the field. It's inflexible and rather than offering creative problem solving it's just a case of "everyone throw d20's at a problem, if you can correctly predict it".

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Sure, but the point stands that it effectively just brute-forces success via weight of numbers

Not remotely. How are you defining "brute forcing"?

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• Give 5 other party members one prof another has for the day- sounds good at first, but honestly kinda underwhelming given it's a single skill being shared around; facilitates group stealth if the DM is of the "if one person fails then effectively the whole party failed" school of thought, but in general seems like it'll mostly be camped on something like Perception, Insight, Persuasion/Deception, or Stealth most of the time, and enabling brute force attempts at skill checks just doesn't sound fun

 

I think you're way underrating how much utility this feature would have. Doing research on something important but have to follow multiple leads? Everyone gets Investigation (or History or Religion or whatever would be most useful). Invited for dinner by the BBEG and can't afford to give away your plans? Everyone gets Deception. Going shopping? Everyone gets Persuasion.

It's less for group checks and more for when you might find yourself in a situation where you can't guarantee the party member strongest in that skill will be the one making a key role

 

Sure, but the point stands that it effectively just brute-forces success via weight of numbers, and would tend to negate the point of the donor being the specialist in the field. It's inflexible and rather than offering creative problem solving it's just a case of "everyone throw d20's at a problem, if you can correctly predict it".

You need to have prof to provide the Help action in whatever it is you're helping with. It allows you to make someone, whomever, the dedicated assistant or helper for those checks for an entire day. So, you're barbarian who is useless in the social scenes of the campaign now has something to do. They can provide the Help action and roleplay taking notes. Then those who do have other stuff they can do are freed up for that stuff rather than having to stick around to provide Guidance or Help.

Imagine Grog from CR helping Pike with some clerical stuff because all of a sudden he has prof in Knowledge Religion. Oh, that would be just hilarious! The two would have some huge theological debate that Grog totally forgot all about by the next day and then Pike would be all frustrated because they ended their reformation discussion without actually ending it. Yes! I want to watch that. I think they lost the show though, right?