Also, while we're at it...Regular, non-Stygian Shade is said to be playable in the OP here & on it's page, but not in the character. What's up with that? Is this a Kobold Press or Beyond devs issue, implementation-wise?
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“Stygian shades are a subrace of shades. You can find more about the base shade race in Tome of Heroes.”
While the base Shade race was indeed added to the site, a race that has subraces does not work on its own — only by choosing a subrace. Stygian Shade is the only Shade subrace currently available on D&D Beyond, and thus the only choice.
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Hi I was trying to subclass my PC with Mother of Sorrows and I clicked where the source was found in all sources. But when I got to the level up to pick a subclass for my warlock I was unable to select the subclass. I checked with other subclasses and I wasn’t able to select any of the Ebon Tides subclasses either, but spells are coming in just fine. Just noticed it as a bug where you can’t actually use the really cool subclasses. I just wanted to know when Kobold Press was actually gonna let DND Beyond use it
Hi I was trying to subclass my PC with Mother of Sorrows and I clicked where the source was found in all sources. But when I got to the level up to pick a subclass for my warlock I was unable to select the subclass. I checked with other subclasses and I wasn't able to select any of the Ebon Tides subclasses either, but spells are coming in just fine. Just noticed it as a bug where you can't actually use the really cool subclasses. I just wanted to know when Kobold Press was actually gonna let DND Beyond use it
These subclasses are for 2014 rules only. You'll have to remake your Warlock for 2014 rules.
As a workaround, you could make a homebrew copy of the 2014 subclass to see exactly how it’s set up, then move everything over to a fresh 2024 subclass instead.
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On the spell page for Lost and Wandering, the effects of the Lost spell has already been added into the text. There is therefore no point to the description including the phrase "as the lost spell" if it no longer needs to be cross-referenced.
I also think the text of the Lost spell has been inserted in the wrong place. The first paragraph would make more sense if its sentences were arranged in the most logical order, eg.: "The target must make a Wisdom saving throw [...]", then "In addition to forgetting all navigation skills [...]", then "After 16 hours [...]".
Then something must be going wrong on my end because I can't see any of the races even though the right options are checked and it says my options are synced.
Disregard my posts apparently I didn't pick it up and its being shared with me. Sorry for troubling everybody. Got a new friend in my latest campaign and I'm used to being the "GM that buys the things" and didn't even think that someone else would buy stuff.
It's pretty hilarious that the only way to access the base Shade species is to create it yourself in D&D Beyond's homebrew section, choose the Shade template, and then immediately hit save. To make it even funnier, D&D Beyond then tells you that you can't share it with the community because the Shade species already exists (which it does, but isn't accessible to anyone).
Would it not be possible for D&D Beyond themselves to literally do this themselves and make it accessible for everyone who owns The Book of Ebon Tides (considering those users are entitled to the class, at least through homebrew)?
It's pretty hilarious that the only way to access the base Shade species is to create it yourself in D&D Beyond's homebrew section, choose the Shade template, and then immediately hit save. To make it even funnier, D&D Beyond then tells you that you can't share it with the community because the Shade species already exists (which it does, but isn't accessible to anyone).
Would it not be possible for D&D Beyond themselves to literally do this themselves and make it accessible for everyone who owns The Book of Ebon Tides (considering those users are entitled to the class, at least through homebrew)?
The site doesn't support taking traits from previous species, as Dhampir, Hexblood & Reborn proved.
Do you really think it'd support that trait for base Shade, or any other 3rd-party species?
(Mind you, this is from a coding perspective.)
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It's pretty hilarious that the only way to access the base Shade species is to create it yourself in D&D Beyond's homebrew section, choose the Shade template, and then immediately hit save. To make it even funnier, D&D Beyond then tells you that you can't share it with the community because the Shade species already exists (which it does, but isn't accessible to anyone).
Would it not be possible for D&D Beyond themselves to literally do this themselves and make it accessible for everyone who owns The Book of Ebon Tides (considering those users are entitled to the class, at least through homebrew)?
The site doesn't support taking traits from previous species, as Dhampir, Hexblood & Reborn proved.
Do you really think it'd support that trait for base Shade, or any other 3rd-party species?
(Mind you, this is from a coding perspective.)
No, I don't expect that, but I do expect that the listed class would be available to be added to your sheet all the same. Not everything needs to be automated on the sheet (though it should be, ideally), but it is far more irritating to:
add a sub-species that you aren't intending to play and then have to explain to the DM that you aren't using two of the abilities because you're actually meaning to play the base version that has two different abilities that aren't listed on your sheet
than it is to
add a species to your sheet that isn't fully automated, and then override your movement speed
What the abilities actually do between the base species and the sub-species is irrelevant-- the species is technically on the site, but not available to those who purchased the book it says it's available within when navigating the Species section of the site.
In short:
I saw the Shade species on the Species page
I click into the Shade section and it lists the abilities of the base Shade species, and a variant sub-class with different abilities
I buy the book listed against the species on that page
Buying the book doesn't allow me to add the base species to my character sheet
There's no way this makes sense. You can say "well the base Shade species is actually in a different Kobold Press book, Tome of Heroes, that isn't on D&D Beyond" (despite what the staff said at the start of this thread), but how do I know that's the case when looking at a Species section on D&DB that says "this base species is from The Book of Ebon Tides" and then it actually isn't?
Like, imagine if you bought Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft because you liked the Lineages listed on the Species page, and then it turned out Dhampir was actually only available in Curse of Strahd or something and you couldn't add it to your sheet without going to D&DB's homebrew section to create the species yourself.
Edit: I will admit that there is a single line at the end of the sub-species description that says:
Stygian shades are a subrace of shades. You can find more about the base shade race in Tome of Heroes.
But this is after an entire section about the base Shade species that explains everything you need to know about the base Shade, including all of their abilities. It doesn't give the impression at all that it won't also be included with the book. It doesn't say "by the way, the base shade isn't included here, but you'll sort of be able to access it by making your own homebrew" because no other species on the site works that way if it has the whole description and abilities listed (apart from other species/sub-species in this book, apparently).
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The quarterstaff version of the lunar lance weapons doesn't have reach, but also says "adds 10".
Mother of Sorrow not showing in 2024 class subclasses like most subclasses. Is this a bug or intended?
It's fine on my end. & it's not been okayed by Kobold Press for 2024, so obviously it won't be there.
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Also, while we're at it...Regular, non-Stygian Shade is said to be playable in the OP here & on it's page, but not in the character. What's up with that? Is this a Kobold Press or Beyond devs issue, implementation-wise?
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While the base Shade race was indeed added to the site, a race that has subraces does not work on its own — only by choosing a subrace. Stygian Shade is the only Shade subrace currently available on D&D Beyond, and thus the only choice.
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Hi I was trying to subclass my PC with Mother of Sorrows and I clicked where the source was found in all sources. But when I got to the level up to pick a subclass for my warlock I was unable to select the subclass. I checked with other subclasses and I wasn’t able to select any of the Ebon Tides subclasses either, but spells are coming in just fine. Just noticed it as a bug where you can’t actually use the really cool subclasses. I just wanted to know when Kobold Press was actually gonna let DND Beyond use it
These subclasses are for 2014 rules only. You'll have to remake your Warlock for 2014 rules.
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On the spell page for Lost and Wandering, the effects of the Lost spell has already been added into the text. There is therefore no point to the description including the phrase "as the lost spell" if it no longer needs to be cross-referenced.
I also think the text of the Lost spell has been inserted in the wrong place. The first paragraph would make more sense if its sentences were arranged in the most logical order, eg.: "The target must make a Wisdom saving throw [...]", then "In addition to forgetting all navigation skills [...]", then "After 16 hours [...]".
So if I'm using the 2024 classes I can't use any of the races/species from the book with them? I hope 2024 support comes soon.Then something must be going wrong on my end because I can't see any of the races even though the right options are checked and it says my options are synced.Trying to use Shades, and all the partnered content is active. None of the Ebon Tide races are showing up.
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https://www.dndbeyond.com/account/licenses
Did you purchase the book yourself? If so, does it show up on that same page under Current Product Licenses?
Is the book shared with you instead? If so, is this character assigned to the campaign that’s sharing it?
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Disregard my posts apparently I didn't pick it up and its being shared with me. Sorry for troubling everybody. Got a new friend in my latest campaign and I'm used to being the "GM that buys the things" and didn't even think that someone else would buy stuff.
It's pretty hilarious that the only way to access the base Shade species is to create it yourself in D&D Beyond's homebrew section, choose the Shade template, and then immediately hit save. To make it even funnier, D&D Beyond then tells you that you can't share it with the community because the Shade species already exists (which it does, but isn't accessible to anyone).
Would it not be possible for D&D Beyond themselves to literally do this themselves and make it accessible for everyone who owns The Book of Ebon Tides (considering those users are entitled to the class, at least through homebrew)?
The site doesn't support taking traits from previous species, as Dhampir, Hexblood & Reborn proved.
Do you really think it'd support that trait for base Shade, or any other 3rd-party species?
(Mind you, this is from a coding perspective.)
DM, player & homebrewer(Current homebrew project is an unofficial conversion of SBURB/SGRUB from Homestuck into DND 5e)
Once made Maxwell's Silver Hammer come down upon Strahd's head to make sure he was dead.
Always study & sharpen philosophical razors. They save a lot of trouble.
No, I don't expect that, but I do expect that the listed class would be available to be added to your sheet all the same. Not everything needs to be automated on the sheet (though it should be, ideally), but it is far more irritating to:
than it is to
What the abilities actually do between the base species and the sub-species is irrelevant-- the species is technically on the site, but not available to those who purchased the book it says it's available within when navigating the Species section of the site.
In short:
There's no way this makes sense. You can say "well the base Shade species is actually in a different Kobold Press book, Tome of Heroes, that isn't on D&D Beyond" (despite what the staff said at the start of this thread), but how do I know that's the case when looking at a Species section on D&DB that says "this base species is from The Book of Ebon Tides" and then it actually isn't?
Like, imagine if you bought Van Richten's Guide to Ravenloft because you liked the Lineages listed on the Species page, and then it turned out Dhampir was actually only available in Curse of Strahd or something and you couldn't add it to your sheet without going to D&DB's homebrew section to create the species yourself.
Edit: I will admit that there is a single line at the end of the sub-species description that says:
But this is after an entire section about the base Shade species that explains everything you need to know about the base Shade, including all of their abilities. It doesn't give the impression at all that it won't also be included with the book. It doesn't say "by the way, the base shade isn't included here, but you'll sort of be able to access it by making your own homebrew" because no other species on the site works that way if it has the whole description and abilities listed (apart from other species/sub-species in this book, apparently).