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Maziara, knowing his lack of physical strength, makes his way behind Crunchface. As he makes his sly retreat he launches Vicious Mockery at the Young man. "I've seen dogs sing better than you! Heck, I think they even handle their ale better than you!" He sticks his tongue out and holds his hands up in an L for additional mockery.
Wis Save of 14 or higher otherwise take Damage: 8
(I'm realizing now that I have a +6 on my spell attacks that I haven't been using lol. I assume Vicious Mockery and Thunderwave are the only two that would matter for this though, so all is well)
Following his lash of insults Maziara turns to Crunchface.
"Now big friend of mine, go forward and show these guys what a real punch looks like. And remember, they were making fun of you earlier, so don't hold anything back!"
Maziara grants Bardic Inspiration to Crunchface (1D6 added to a roll, use it wisely!)
Maziara, knowing his lack of physical strength, makes his way behind Crunchface. As he makes his sly retreat he launches Vicious Mockery at the Young man. "I've seen dogs sing better than you! Heck, I think they even handle their ale better than you!" He sticks his tongue out and holds his hands up in an L for additional mockery.
Wis Save of 14 or higher otherwise take Damage: 8
(I'm realizing now that I have a +6 on my spell attacks that I haven't been using lol. I assume Vicious Mockery and Thunderwave are the only two that would matter for this though, so all is well)
Following his lash of insults Maziara turns to Crunchface.
"Now big friend of mine, go forward and show these guys what a real punch looks like. And remember, they were making fun of you earlier, so don't hold anything back!"
Maziara grants Bardic Inspiration to Crunchface (1D6 added to a roll, use it wisely!)
Um, real quick, I think Vicious Mockery only dudes 1d4 damage at this level.
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If I haven’t offended you, don’t worry. I’m sure I’ll get to you eventually.
(From what I read online it falls under the spell so it would be 1d4 plus proficiency plus charisma. I felt like that made since being a bard, weaving magic into words is kind of the whole vibe.)
(I think the way it works is you add your spellcasting ability modifier + your proficiency bonus to your attack if casting the spell involves an attack roll, like Fire Bolt etc.)
(I see what you’re saying. I’ll leave it to the DM. I see it as very relevant to the bard and makes sense that it would get the spell attack bonus. It might not have an attack roll, but it doesn’t hit if the enemy makes a successful wis save roll. Feels balanced to me.)
From what I understand, spellcasting damage doesn’t get a bonus to the damage:
You unleash a string of insults laced with subtle enchantments at a creature you can see within range. If the target can hear you (though it need not understand you), it must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or take 1d4 psychic damage and have disadvantage on the next attack roll it makes before the end of its next turn.
This spell's damage increases by 1d4 when you reach 5th level (2d4), 11th level (3d4), and 17th level (4d4).
So unless specified in the spell, like Cure Wounds, you don’t add your bonus to the damage. If you already did, the Agonizing Blast invocation for warlocks (When you cast Eldritch Blast, add your Charisma modifier to the damage it deals on a hit.) would be absolutely useless
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If I haven’t offended you, don’t worry. I’m sure I’ll get to you eventually.
From what I understand, spellcasting damage doesn’t get a bonus to the damage:
You unleash a string of insults laced with subtle enchantments at a creature you can see within range. If the target can hear you (though it need not understand you), it must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or take 1d4 psychic damage and have disadvantage on the next attack roll it makes before the end of its next turn.
This spell's damage increases by 1d4 when you reach 5th level (2d4), 11th level (3d4), and 17th level (4d4).
So unless specified in the spell, like Cure Wounds, you don’t add your bonus to the damage. If you already did, the Agonizing Blast invocation for warlocks (When you cast Eldritch Blast, add your Charisma modifier to the damage it deals on a hit.) would be absolutely useless
I really hate to be ‘that guy’, it’s just that this is a huge part of the rules.
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If I haven’t offended you, don’t worry. I’m sure I’ll get to you eventually.
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Sam, seeing this getting out of hand, falls back to his guard days and dealing with rowdy young drunk folk.
He pulls his Glaive out and with great fanfare spins it over his head and brings it down on the floor with a great THUD. He yells at the top of his voice "ENOUGH! I will hand over you lot to the local guard if you continue."
Intimidation: 18
OOC (If being a Marine or former Knight gives me advantage, here is my second roll: 10 )
Marley watches to make sure the young man and friends exit the tavern, then heads back to the table and takes a long drink of ale. He looks around with a grin but it soon fades into a frown as he says, "We should watch our backs the rest of our stay here, maybe not the end of this."
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Athletics roll: 14
Marley keeps his claws retracted and moves up to F1 and tries to land a punch, while growling "Leave him alone!"
Attack: 23
Damage: 3
Maziara you shove F1 away from you into Marley's punch. F1 is rocked back but still standing.... barely.
Crunchface moves the 30 ft over and aims a punch at Friend one: Attack: 25 Damage: 3
If I haven’t offended you, don’t worry. I’m sure I’ll get to you eventually.
Maziara, knowing his lack of physical strength, makes his way behind Crunchface. As he makes his sly retreat he launches Vicious Mockery at the Young man. "I've seen dogs sing better than you! Heck, I think they even handle their ale better than you!" He sticks his tongue out and holds his hands up in an L for additional mockery.
Wis Save of 14 or higher otherwise take Damage: 8
(I'm realizing now that I have a +6 on my spell attacks that I haven't been using lol. I assume Vicious Mockery and Thunderwave are the only two that would matter for this though, so all is well)
Following his lash of insults Maziara turns to Crunchface.
"Now big friend of mine, go forward and show these guys what a real punch looks like. And remember, they were making fun of you earlier, so don't hold anything back!"
Maziara grants Bardic Inspiration to Crunchface (1D6 added to a roll, use it wisely!)
Um, real quick, I think Vicious Mockery only dudes 1d4 damage at this level.
If I haven’t offended you, don’t worry. I’m sure I’ll get to you eventually.
(From what I read online it falls under the spell so it would be 1d4 plus proficiency plus charisma. I felt like that made since being a bard, weaving magic into words is kind of the whole vibe.)
(I think the way it works is you add your spellcasting ability modifier + your proficiency bonus to your attack if casting the spell involves an attack roll, like Fire Bolt etc.)
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules/spellcasting#AttackRolls
(I see what you’re saying. I’ll leave it to the DM. I see it as very relevant to the bard and makes sense that it would get the spell attack bonus. It might not have an attack roll, but it doesn’t hit if the enemy makes a successful wis save roll. Feels balanced to me.)
From what I understand, spellcasting damage doesn’t get a bonus to the damage:
You unleash a string of insults laced with subtle enchantments at a creature you can see within range. If the target can hear you (though it need not understand you), it must succeed on a Wisdom saving throw or take 1d4 psychic damage and have disadvantage on the next attack roll it makes before the end of its next turn.
This spell's damage increases by 1d4 when you reach 5th level (2d4), 11th level (3d4), and 17th level (4d4).
So unless specified in the spell, like Cure Wounds, you don’t add your bonus to the damage. If you already did, the Agonizing Blast invocation for warlocks (When you cast Eldritch Blast, add your Charisma modifier to the damage it deals on a hit.) would be absolutely useless
If I haven’t offended you, don’t worry. I’m sure I’ll get to you eventually.
I really hate to be ‘that guy’, it’s just that this is a huge part of the rules.
If I haven’t offended you, don’t worry. I’m sure I’ll get to you eventually.
DM: RAW its just a 1d4. As a Cantrip adding your spell attack modifier would make the spell OP.
We can home brew if you use a spell slot I'll allow you to add the modifier.
Crunchface knocks out F1. Waiting on Maziara decision to reroll a d4, accept the home brew idea and use a spell slot or do something else.
(I'm happy to move forward with the 2 from the previous roll without the +6 or reroll. I appreciate the home brew rule idea though!)
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Ok the Young Man takes 2 damage he failed his wis save with a 4. (Makes since he's drunk) he has disavantage.
The young man stumbles. THE VOICES MAKE THEM STOP
Order: Friend 2, Marley, Maziara, Crunchface, Young Man, Friend 3.
The young man recoves and swings at Maziara.
Attack 7 miss.
He swings wild in the wrong direction.
Sam is up
Sam, seeing this getting out of hand, falls back to his guard days and dealing with rowdy young drunk folk.
He pulls his Glaive out and with great fanfare spins it over his head and brings it down on the floor with a great THUD. He yells at the top of his voice "ENOUGH! I will hand over you lot to the local guard if you continue."
Intimidation: 18
OOC (If being a Marine or former Knight gives me advantage, here is my second roll: 10 )
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Wis save: 2
The friends grab the young man and their unconscious friend and drag them away.
Let's get out of here.
End of the rumble.
Marley watches to make sure the young man and friends exit the tavern, then heads back to the table and takes a long drink of ale. He looks around with a grin but it soon fades into a frown as he says, "We should watch our backs the rest of our stay here, maybe not the end of this."