The sounds of his friends fighting remind Tyris that there's something more important than an odd stage performance going on, and he darts towards the next room to help, firing an arrow at the skulk if he's able to.
The sounds of his friends fighting remind Tyris that there's something more important than an odd stage performance going on, and he darts towards the next room to help, firing an arrow at the skulk if he's able to.
Attack: 9 Damage: 5
You will have to dash to get them in sight (I will assume you do so unless you state otherwise).
I will do the NPC's and the map when I get home tonight.
Oreus attacks the surrounded skulk, trying to knock it prone first
bonus action to knock him prone: 18
How are you using a bonus action?
RAW states:
Shoving a Creature
Using the Attack action, you can make a special melee attack to shove a creature, either to knock it prone or push it away from you. If you're able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them.
And unless I am blind I don't see anything on your sheet to make it a bonus action.
Skulk 1 Acrobatics 20 (if you still able/want to make the shove)
I don't think (and a friend who has played a lot of 5e agrees with me) that you can use Polearm Master to make a "shove attack".
Shoving a creature state you can use your "attack action" to make a shove attempt.
Polearm Master states that When you take the Attack action ad attack with only a glaive, halberd, quarterstaff, or spear, you (then) can use a bonus action to make a melee attack with the opposite end of the weapon. (I added the (then) as a qualifier.)
Both Shoving a Creature & Polearm Master need an Attack Action to work (a bonus action is not an attack action) and Oreus only has one attack action.
I could see an argument for making the attack action for the Polearm Master becoming the shove attack and then using the bonus action to attack with the butt of the weapon, but after talking to my friend, I ruled that out as well.
So Oreus if that was how you were planning on doing the above actions, please pick either the shove or the attack from your above post. If you choose to attack you can make a bonus attack with your glaive butt. If you had something else in mind let me know so I can see if that works or not.
The first article is talking about a fifth level fighter (fighters get a second attack at level five), and so it doesn't apply to this situation.
The second article does say that you can make the bonus attack before the primary attack, but the primary attack MUST be a weapon (glaive) attack. Shove is an athletes check not a glaive attack. So that doesn't work either.
You will be able to make this work when you get good enough (paladin's also get a second attack at level five). Your first attack action would be the shove, and the second would be the Polearm Master glaive attack (primary and bonus).
So I think you want to make a normal Polearm Master attack with the primary
Attack 13 Damage 13 12 you had a +5 damage instead of a +4 (you had +4 on the advantage attack so I assume you made a typing error).
(These are both answering different questions than using the bonus attack as a shove. The first is asking about shoving with the main attack action, then using the bonus action to attack from polearm master. Which the consensus from what I've seen generally comes down to saying it works if you have Extra Attack so you can use one attack to shove, and one to dot he normal attack, which triggers the bonus attack. The second talks about the bonus action being able to come before the action that triggers it. Which I still think is super weird, but I understand that's how it's been ruled and won't argue that. But still says nothing about being able to use the bonus action attack as a shove. )
Shove with the normal and attack with the bonus, this time then you decide for next times
I could see an argument for making the attack action for the Polearm Master becoming the shove attack and then using the bonus action to attack with the butt of the weapon, but after talking to my friend, I ruled that out as well. For the same reason as the next quote.
The second article does say that you can make the bonus attack before the primary attack, but the primary attack MUST be a weapon (glaive) attack. Shove is an athletes check not a glaive attack. So that doesn't work either.
Polearm Master
You can keep your enemies at bay with reach weapons. You gain the following benefits:
When you take the Attack action and attack with only a glaive, halberd, quarterstaff, or spear, you can use a bonus action to make a melee attack with the opposite end of the weapon. This attack uses the same ability modifier as the primary attack. The weapon’s damage die for this attack is a d4, and it deals bludgeoning damage.
You can't do that, in order to make a Polearm Master bonus attack (either before or after the primary attack) the primary attack MUST be a weapon attack (glaive, spear, quarterstaff, Halberd). As I stated above a shove is NOT a weapon attack, it is a athletics check. This is a great idea, but it won't work until you get an extra attack (again see my above post).
At this point you can either make a shove check OR make a Polearm Master glaive attack + bonus attack. Please indicate which one you want to do.
Laladak hacks at the first skulk, dealing a mighty blow. It is still standing.
Shadow and Tyris are up
Shadow moves up next to Laladak and and stabs the skulk with his rapier
Attack: 7 Damage: 14
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That is 45 or 50 feet of movement, are you using Cunning Action to dash?
Are the squares 10x10? I forgot it’s been a while so yes I would cunning action to dash. I had counted using 5x5 squares sorry
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Shadow moves forward 50 feet using his Roguish ability to dash and slash, doing considerable damage to the skulk.
Tyris is up
The sounds of his friends fighting remind Tyris that there's something more important than an odd stage performance going on, and he darts towards the next room to help, firing an arrow at the skulk if he's able to.
Attack: 9 Damage: 5
You will have to dash to get them in sight (I will assume you do so unless you state otherwise).
I will do the NPC's and the map when I get home tonight.
Fario dashes up the the second skulk.
Fellian follows Tyris' example and dashes to where he can at least see one of the enemy.
Alben and Oreus are up. (I believe Alben is back, if he doesn't post in a day or two, I will again post for him.)
Oreus attacks the surrounded skulk, trying to knock it prone first
bonus action to knock him prone: 18
IF ENOUGH VS THE SKULK SKILL, EVERYBODY ON MELEE HAS ADVANTAGE, MARK IT DOWN
Attack: 22 Damage: 13
if it is not enough, normal attack
13 Damage: 13
How are you using a bonus action?
RAW states:
Shoving a Creature
Using the Attack action, you can make a special melee attack to shove a creature, either to knock it prone or push it away from you. If you're able to make multiple attacks with the Attack action, this attack replaces one of them.
And unless I am blind I don't see anything on your sheet to make it a bonus action.
Skulk 1 Acrobatics 20 (if you still able/want to make the shove)
(Hes a pole arm master. He gets to make a second attack with his weapon as a bonus action. He is using that attack to knock the skulk prone)
I got alot a doods
I don't think (and a friend who has played a lot of 5e agrees with me) that you can use Polearm Master to make a "shove attack".
Shoving a creature state you can use your "attack action" to make a shove attempt.
Polearm Master states that When you take the Attack action ad attack with only a glaive, halberd, quarterstaff, or spear, you (then) can use a bonus action to make a melee attack with the opposite end of the weapon. (I added the (then) as a qualifier.)
Both Shoving a Creature & Polearm Master need an Attack Action to work (a bonus action is not an attack action) and Oreus only has one attack action.
I could see an argument for making the attack action for the Polearm Master becoming the shove attack and then using the bonus action to attack with the butt of the weapon, but after talking to my friend, I ruled that out as well.
So Oreus if that was how you were planning on doing the above actions, please pick either the shove or the attack from your above post. If you choose to attack you can make a bonus attack with your glaive butt. If you had something else in mind let me know so I can see if that works or not.
this THEN (although understandable) is an old story I hadin another section, here the links I have found so far, anyway :
https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/124390/can-you-shove-attack-action-attack-extra-attack-and-use-polearm-masters-bo
http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?420592-Polearm-Mastery-feat-bonus-attack&p=6533062&viewfull=1#post6533062
Anyway, just be on the safe side I replace the previous action the attack with the bonus attack , so the damages will be 1d4 instead of 1d10
6
rerolling becvause of fighting style:
6
The first article is talking about a fifth level fighter (fighters get a second attack at level five), and so it doesn't apply to this situation.
The second article does say that you can make the bonus attack before the primary attack, but the primary attack MUST be a weapon (glaive) attack. Shove is an athletes check not a glaive attack. So that doesn't work either.
You will be able to make this work when you get good enough (paladin's also get a second attack at level five). Your first attack action would be the shove, and the second would be the Polearm Master glaive attack (primary and bonus).
So I think you want to make a normal Polearm Master attack with the primary
Attack 13 Damage
1312 you had a +5 damage instead of a +4 (you had +4 on the advantage attack so I assume you made a typing error).Bonus Attack ? Damage 6
Is that correct?
(These are both answering different questions than using the bonus attack as a shove. The first is asking about shoving with the main attack action, then using the bonus action to attack from polearm master. Which the consensus from what I've seen generally comes down to saying it works if you have Extra Attack so you can use one attack to shove, and one to dot he normal attack, which triggers the bonus attack. The second talks about the bonus action being able to come before the action that triggers it. Which I still think is super weird, but I understand that's how it's been ruled and won't argue that. But still says nothing about being able to use the bonus action attack as a shove. )
Alben will move up next to Tyris and casts magic missile at S1, not wanting to hit his allies by mistake.
Bolt 1: 4
Bolt 2: 3
Bolt 3: 4
Alben's Magic Missiles slam into the skulk, he is still standing.
Oreus please confirm your attacks are as stated in my last post and roll your bonus attack (or if you want to do the shove instead let me know).
Shove with the normal and attack with the bonus, this time then you decide for next times
You can't do that, in order to make a Polearm Master bonus attack (either before or after the primary attack) the primary attack MUST be a weapon attack (glaive, spear, quarterstaff, Halberd). As I stated above a shove is NOT a weapon attack, it is a athletics check. This is a great idea, but it won't work until you get an extra attack (again see my above post).
At this point you can either make a shove check OR make a Polearm Master glaive attack + bonus attack. Please indicate which one you want to do.
Who is up?
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Taggart lvl 6 Air Genasi Blood Hunter Tomb of Annihilation
Shadow lvl 3 variant feral tiefling rogue Shackled City