I have a Multiclass Ranger 6 / Priest Cleric (Life Domain) Character - very Playable - I play it as a Master Inquisitor Lawful Evil with Haunted background. And still strong build, even if not a "power build".
But, I struggle with the Multiclass Spell Tables. According to Manual I could have up to 4th level of clerical spells and up 2th of Ranger one. I have only up 2th level of Both with D&D Beyond and I can't understand why. Could you help me, please ?
If you have more than one spellcasting class, this table might give you spell slots of a level that is higher than the spells you know or can prepare. You can use those slots, but only to cast your lower-level spells.
I have a Multiclass Ranger 6 / Priest Cleric (Life Domain) Character - very Playable - I play it as a Master Inquisitor Lawful Evil with Haunted background. And still strong build, even if not a "power build".
But, I struggle with the Multiclass Spell Tables. According to Manual I could have up to 4th level of clerical spells and up 2th of Ranger one. I have only up 2th level of Both with D&D Beyond and I can't understand why. Could you help me, please ?
Marco from Italy
You're correct that a certain reading of the text could lead you to believe that you can know/prepare spells for whatever slots you have for the cleric side.
However, no one plays that way. That is not the intended rules. If you take a look at some of the multiclass examples in the multiclass section you'll get a better idea of how they intended the spells known/prepared and slots to work.
It sounds like you might have only 3 or 4 levels of cleric. And, if that is the case, you'll only be able to know up to 2nd level cleric spells. It is hard to say for sure because we're guessing what level you are, it isn't mentioned in the OP. If you're actually a 7th or 8th level in cleric then something else is certainly going wrong. Because, then you should be totally capable of having 4th level cleric spells prepared.
Spell level you can cast is based on the levels within EACH class not your cumulative level (which I assume you are 6 ranger and 1/cleric. You do NOT get the spells of a 7th level cleric and a 7th level ranger, but 6th in ranger and 1 in cleric. Which I believe would be you have 1st and 2nd level ranger spells, 1st level cleric spells.
Knowing your cleric level would be helpful for explaining what exactly you should expect.
However in general as Farling mentioned multi-classing affects your spell slots, not your spells known or prepared. To determine the spells you know and have prepared you do this for each class individually.
Since you mentioned expecting 4th level spells but only having up to 2nd level spells in both I would guess you are a 6th level Ranger and a 4th level Cleric. If true then you should be able to learn and prepare up to 2nd level spells in both Ranger and Cleric and you should have the following spell slots:
So yes, you shouldn't have access to something like Revivify but you should be able to cast something like Inflict Wounds at 4th level once per long rest for 6d10 necrotic damage.
D&D Beyond's spell parameters to this character are in line with the PHB rules on multiclassing spellcasters.
They're in line with the most commonly adopted interpretation, the intended interpretation, of the PHB. There is an alternative, yet RAW, interpretation... which basically no one anywhere adopts. Although it does sound like the OP was using this alternative RAW interpretation.
D&D Beyond's spell parameters to this character are in line with the PHB rules on multiclassing spellcasters.
They're in line with the most commonly adopted interpretation, the intended interpretation, of the PHB. There is an alternative, yet RAW, interpretation... which basically no one anywhere adopts. Although it does sound like the OP was using this alternative RAW interpretation.
I honestly thought that what I was describing in my post was RAW how spellcasting is handled when multi-classing. Could you describe the alternative RAW interpretation you are speaking of?
D&D Beyond's spell parameters to this character are in line with the PHB rules on multiclassing spellcasters.
They're in line with the most commonly adopted interpretation, the intended interpretation, of the PHB. There is an alternative, yet RAW, interpretation... which basically no one anywhere adopts. Although it does sound like the OP was using this alternative RAW interpretation.
I honestly thought that what I was describing in my post was RAW how spellcasting is handled when multi-classing. Could you describe the alternative RAW interpretation you are speaking of?
Some people interpret the text "You determine what spells you know and can prepare for each class individually, as if you were a single-classed member of that class" to mean that you apply ALL your class levels to each individual class.
There is an alternative, yet RAW, interpretation... which basically no one anywhere adopts. Although it does sound like the OP was using this alternative RAW interpretation.
I honestly thought that what I was describing in my post was RAW how spellcasting is handled when multi-classing. Could you describe the alternative RAW interpretation you are speaking of?
Some people interpret the text "You determine what spells you know and can prepare for each class individually, as if you were a single-classed member of that class" to mean that you apply ALL your class levels to each individual class.
And that interpretation requires that you ignore the examples that are provided as part of the multiclass spellcasting rules which clarify the exact meaning and usage of those rules:
"For example, if you are the aforementioned ranger 4/wizard 3, you count as a 5th-level character when determining your spell slots: you have four 1st-level slots, three 2nd-level slots, and two 3rd-level slots. However, you don’t know any 3rd-level spells, nor do you know any 2nd-level ranger spells."
The statement that this character cannot know any 2nd or 3rd level Ranger spells is the nail in the coffin of this "alternative" interpretation. The spellcasting feature of a Ranger says that spells they learn "must be of a level for which you have spell slots", but the multiclass rules (including its clarifying examples) overrides that and should make it clear that the Ranger is restricted to learning spells that they would be able to learn using the spell slots granted by their Ranger class levels alone.
Good Evening Everybody,
I have a Multiclass Ranger 6 / Priest Cleric (Life Domain) Character - very Playable - I play it as a Master Inquisitor Lawful Evil with Haunted background. And still strong build, even if not a "power build".
But, I struggle with the Multiclass Spell Tables. According to Manual I could have up to 4th level of clerical spells and up 2th of Ranger one. I have only up 2th level of Both with D&D Beyond and I can't understand why. Could you help me, please ?
Marco from Italy
You get spell SLOTS based on your combined spellcasting classes.
However the highest level of SPELLS available to you are based on the level of each individual class.
The explanation is here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/phb/customization-options#Spellcasting
or https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules/customization-options#Spellcasting
The important text being:
Also, what level of Cleric are you?
You're correct that a certain reading of the text could lead you to believe that you can know/prepare spells for whatever slots you have for the cleric side.
However, no one plays that way. That is not the intended rules. If you take a look at some of the multiclass examples in the multiclass section you'll get a better idea of how they intended the spells known/prepared and slots to work.
It sounds like you might have only 3 or 4 levels of cleric. And, if that is the case, you'll only be able to know up to 2nd level cleric spells. It is hard to say for sure because we're guessing what level you are, it isn't mentioned in the OP. If you're actually a 7th or 8th level in cleric then something else is certainly going wrong. Because, then you should be totally capable of having 4th level cleric spells prepared.
I got quotes!
Spell level you can cast is based on the levels within EACH class not your cumulative level (which I assume you are 6 ranger and 1/cleric. You do NOT get the spells of a 7th level cleric and a 7th level ranger, but 6th in ranger and 1 in cleric. Which I believe would be you have 1st and 2nd level ranger spells, 1st level cleric spells.
Knowing your cleric level would be helpful for explaining what exactly you should expect.
However in general as Farling mentioned multi-classing affects your spell slots, not your spells known or prepared. To determine the spells you know and have prepared you do this for each class individually.
Since you mentioned expecting 4th level spells but only having up to 2nd level spells in both I would guess you are a 6th level Ranger and a 4th level Cleric. If true then you should be able to learn and prepare up to 2nd level spells in both Ranger and Cleric and you should have the following spell slots:
4th level: 1
3rd level: 3
2nd level: 3
1st level: 4
So yes, you shouldn't have access to something like Revivify but you should be able to cast something like Inflict Wounds at 4th level once per long rest for 6d10 necrotic damage.
Thank you for the Reply :
4 Level Priest Cleric (Life Domain)
6 Ranger
4th level cleric only has access to 2nd level spells.
6th level ranger also has only access to 2nd level spells.
D&D Beyond's spell parameters to this character are in line with the PHB rules on multiclassing spellcasters.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
They're in line with the most commonly adopted interpretation, the intended interpretation, of the PHB. There is an alternative, yet RAW, interpretation... which basically no one anywhere adopts. Although it does sound like the OP was using this alternative RAW interpretation.
I got quotes!
I honestly thought that what I was describing in my post was RAW how spellcasting is handled when multi-classing. Could you describe the alternative RAW interpretation you are speaking of?
Some people interpret the text "You determine what spells you know and can prepare for each class individually, as if you were a single-classed member of that class" to mean that you apply ALL your class levels to each individual class.
And that interpretation requires that you ignore the examples that are provided as part of the multiclass spellcasting rules which clarify the exact meaning and usage of those rules:
"For example, if you are the aforementioned ranger 4/wizard 3, you count as a 5th-level character when determining your spell slots: you have four 1st-level slots, three 2nd-level slots, and two 3rd-level slots. However, you don’t know any 3rd-level spells, nor do you know any 2nd-level ranger spells."
The statement that this character cannot know any 2nd or 3rd level Ranger spells is the nail in the coffin of this "alternative" interpretation. The spellcasting feature of a Ranger says that spells they learn "must be of a level for which you have spell slots", but the multiclass rules (including its clarifying examples) overrides that and should make it clear that the Ranger is restricted to learning spells that they would be able to learn using the spell slots granted by their Ranger class levels alone.