fairly new DM and have a player who is playing a Minotaur Echo knight and is wondering if his echo can use hammering horns, I truly have no idea and would like a definitive answer from someone please <3
fairly new DM and have a player who is playing a Minotaur Echo knight and is wondering if his echo can use hammering horns, I truly have no idea and would like a definitive answer from someone please <3
Echoes can't do anything at all - Echo Knights are very complicated because a bunch of their rules aren't specified, but people also tend to just... not read the rules we do have. As the DM, what you should understand on a core level, and embrace, is that the "Echo" is not a creature, it's an object. It can't perform any actions, it has no initiative, etc. Your question is similar to asking if a Minotaur's shield can use hammering horns, or a Minotaur's lobster fork.
The real question your PC needs answered is how Hammering Horns interacts with the Echo, and it's as follows:
Minotaur takes the Attack action and makes a melee attack.
This melee attack can be made by the Minotaur against a target within the Minotaur's reach in feet of the Minotaur or of the Echo - either way the Minotaur makes the attack, but the Echo functionally acts as a range extender. You can think of it as a magic portal the Minotaur is reaching through to stab people without any incorrect conclusions from a rules perspective.
Immediately after this melee attack hits, the Minotaur can use Hammering Horns by using a Bonus Action to attempt to shove the target. The target must be within 5 feet of the Minotaur and the Echo can't change this, but provided the target is within 5 feet of the Minotaur, the Minotaur can make the shove through the Echo in the same way as the original attack in Step 1 above.
As the DM, you may want to override the RAW on Hammering Horns, as it was not written with the Echo Knight in mind. In particular, Hammering Horns is written to always Shove the target away from the Shover, rather than away from the space the Shove originated in, and as I just outlined, in this case those can differ. Having the Shove be by definition away from the space the Shove came from can make the Echo situationally useful for Shoving a target in an odd direction (in particular, if the PC wanted to Shove the creature into the Minotaur for some reason).
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fairly new DM and have a player who is playing a Minotaur Echo knight and is wondering if his echo can use hammering horns, I truly have no idea and would like a definitive answer from someone please <3
Echoes can't do anything at all - Echo Knights are very complicated because a bunch of their rules aren't specified, but people also tend to just... not read the rules we do have. As the DM, what you should understand on a core level, and embrace, is that the "Echo" is not a creature, it's an object. It can't perform any actions, it has no initiative, etc. Your question is similar to asking if a Minotaur's shield can use hammering horns, or a Minotaur's lobster fork.
The real question your PC needs answered is how Hammering Horns interacts with the Echo, and it's as follows:
I found the Echo Knight to make more sense when I think of the echo simply as a placeholder the character can choose to operate out of.
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