A player in my current campaign came to me with an intriguing question about using True Polymorph as a pseudo Reincarnation spell. The intended effect would be using True polymorph on the corpse of a fallen PC, more or less allowing a new character to rise from the corpse. I.e., a barbarian corpse becoming a rogue. How exactly, if possible with RAW, would this be ruled?. Obviously the target would be at a lower level in comparison to equal the CR 9 cap on the spell.
As the corpse of the target is considered an object, this should be theoretically possible, but I wanted others opinion.
This spell has no effect on a shapechanger or a creature with 0 hit points. An unwilling creature can make a Wisdom saving throw, and if it succeeds, it isn’t affected by this spell.
A dead creature is dead since it has 0 hp the true poly would just fizzle out.
A player in my current campaign came to me with an intriguing question about using True Polymorph as a pseudo Reincarnation spell. The intended effect would be using True polymorph on the corpse of a fallen PC, more or less allowing a new character to rise from the corpse. I.e., a barbarian corpse becoming a rogue. How exactly, if possible with RAW, would this be ruled?. Obviously the target would be at a lower level in comparison to equal the CR 9 cap on the spell.
As the corpse of the target is considered an object, this should be theoretically possible, but I wanted others opinion.
RAW, you can 100% True Polymorph a corpse (a corpse is an object, not a creature with 0 hit points) into a creature, but the creature you produce will be a completely new one - no shared memories with the previous inhabitant of the corpse, just a totally brand new mind with no memories at all. You could use this to help justify introducing a new character into the campaign to replace the old one, but the consequences would be largely worse than just having the player introduce their new character normally, without any True Polymorph related constraints.
The thoughts that I had towards this would be that you would use the Stat block of the base creature without personal modifications, such as point buy and such. This was specifically for an attempt at creating a new PC without going through lengthy intros. Of course, this would be objectively worse than just going through the whole song and dance of new character creation.
Though, fatal failure in all this would be anti-magic of any kind would insta kill.
The thoughts that I had towards this would be that you would use the Stat block of the base creature without personal modifications, such as point buy and such. This was specifically for an attempt at creating a new PC without going through lengthy intros. Of course, this would be objectively worse than just going through the whole song and dance of new character creation.
Though, fatal failure in all this would be anti-magic of any kind would insta kill.
There are other fora for Homebrew rules and DM advice, respectively, if you want a more in-depth discussion of coming up with a "good" way to homebrew this for your players.
Also they would only be alive for at most an hour.... where instead you could use wish spell to just bring them back or reincarnate them and it would be permanent.
Also they would only be alive for at most an hour.... where instead you could use wish spell to just bring them back or reincarnate them and it would be permanent.
No.
If you concentrate on this spell for the full duration, the spell lasts until it is dispelled.
If the spell becomes permanent, you no longer control the creature. It might remain friendly to you, depending on how you have treated it.
Also they would only be alive for at most an hour.... where instead you could use wish spell to just bring them back or reincarnate them and it would be permanent.
No.
If you concentrate on this spell for the full duration, the spell lasts until it is dispelled.
If the spell becomes permanent, you no longer control the creature. It might remain friendly to you, depending on how you have treated it.
I realize you are trying to help, but...
It wouldn't be a good existence though.
Collapses to the floor as a corpse whilst within an anti-magic area.
A single successful Dispel Magic would "kill" you again.
Also they would only be alive for at most an hour.... where instead you could use wish spell to just bring them back or reincarnate them and it would be permanent.
No.
If you concentrate on this spell for the full duration, the spell lasts until it is dispelled.
If the spell becomes permanent, you no longer control the creature. It might remain friendly to you, depending on how you have treated it.
I realize you are trying to help, but...
It wouldn't be a good existence though.
Collapses to the floor as a corpse whilst within an anti-magic area.
A single successful Dispel Magic would "kill" you again.
A player in my current campaign came to me with an intriguing question about using True Polymorph as a pseudo Reincarnation spell. The intended effect would be using True polymorph on the corpse of a fallen PC, more or less allowing a new character to rise from the corpse. I.e., a barbarian corpse becoming a rogue. How exactly, if possible with RAW, would this be ruled?. Obviously the target would be at a lower level in comparison to equal the CR 9 cap on the spell.
As the corpse of the target is considered an object, this should be theoretically possible, but I wanted others opinion.
So this is why it wont work the way your thinking
This spell has no effect on a shapechanger or a creature with 0 hit points. An unwilling creature can make a Wisdom saving throw, and if it succeeds, it isn’t affected by this spell.
A dead creature is dead since it has 0 hp the true poly would just fizzle out.
RAW, you can 100% True Polymorph a corpse (a corpse is an object, not a creature with 0 hit points) into a creature, but the creature you produce will be a completely new one - no shared memories with the previous inhabitant of the corpse, just a totally brand new mind with no memories at all. You could use this to help justify introducing a new character into the campaign to replace the old one, but the consequences would be largely worse than just having the player introduce their new character normally, without any True Polymorph related constraints.
The thoughts that I had towards this would be that you would use the Stat block of the base creature without personal modifications, such as point buy and such. This was specifically for an attempt at creating a new PC without going through lengthy intros. Of course, this would be objectively worse than just going through the whole song and dance of new character creation.
Though, fatal failure in all this would be anti-magic of any kind would insta kill.
There are other fora for Homebrew rules and DM advice, respectively, if you want a more in-depth discussion of coming up with a "good" way to homebrew this for your players.
Also they would only be alive for at most an hour.... where instead you could use wish spell to just bring them back or reincarnate them and it would be permanent.
No.
I realize you are trying to help, but...
It wouldn't be a good existence though.
Collapses to the floor as a corpse whilst within an anti-magic area.
A single successful Dispel Magic would "kill" you again.
That is true.
I missed that part im sorry.