What spell has a rectangular area? Is this a wall? I didn't think any were 20' thick (or any were 20'x25').
XgtE says what we all probably had to assume about using a grid, as I can't seem to find it in the core books: "If a creature’s miniature is in an affected square, that creature is in the area." I would read this to mean that if a creature's base overlaps with a spell's effect by any number of squares, then it is affected (for the same reason that a creature is only affected once even if more than one of its squares is in an area).
What spell has a rectangular area? Is this a wall? I didn't think any were 20' thick (or any were 20'x25').
XgtE says what we all probably had to assume about using a grid, as I can't seem to find it in the core books: "If a creature’s miniature is in an affected square, that creature is in the area." I would read this to mean that if a creature's base overlaps with a spell's effect by any number of squares, then it is affected.
The area you’ve drawn in purple is 20’x25’, not 30’ sq. The box inside is even smaller. Most spells must be their entire size unless they’re blocked, just as a side note.
I'm sorry, the picture supposed to be a hypotetic situation, I have drawn a random rectangle just to replicate what happened in the game, which was two creatures being filled by only one square of the spell
I'm sorry, the picture supposed to be a hypotetic situation, I have drawn a random rectangle just to replicate what happened in the game, which was two creatures being filled by only one square of the spell
Without seeing what actually happened in the game, there's no way to answer your question. A "hypothetical" which doesn't even show the correct AoE for the spell is meaningless
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Without seeing what actually happened in the game, there's no way to answer your question. A "hypothetical" which doesn't even show the correct AoE for the spell is meaningless
Here, this is exactly what happened in the game with the correct AoE
The spell will hit both giants. Huge creatures cover a 3x3 area -- any AoE that covers part of that area, even just one square, will affect them
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This is one of the major drawbacks of being a larger size; you are a lot easier to hit with areas of effect, as any overlap means you take the same damage as somebody fully within it.
I've been experimenting with some rules for greater coverage on areas of effect, but that's mostly to help players with area damage effects that are less useful when facing a single big monster, e.g- a dragonborn's breath weapon, or a Druid (as the spell list doesn't include a lot of good single target damage spells at various levels).
But yeah, in the vanilla game any amount of overlap means you take the full effect; a DM can of course rule otherwise if there are any kind of obstructions, or they feel that a specific monster should need more coverage to be affected or whatever, but that is usually be a narrative decision rather than a mechanical one.
Apart from the uncanny precision of your spellcaster being able to mentally measure that out in a flash of battle - yep they both are within the AoE.
Normal and not uncanny at all for Wizards with an Int of 16 or higher. Especially given the assumption that they have practiced it before. Clerics, you can make the claim about them being Wise enough.
Sorcerer/Bard I can see an argument about it being unreasonable.
Warlock, they only have very few spells, so it should be assumed they practice them long enough to know exactly how big it is.
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This spell will hit both giants? I didn't found any specifics for "how many squares" the area must fill in order to take effect on a creature.
What spell has a rectangular area? Is this a wall? I didn't think any were 20' thick (or any were 20'x25').
XgtE says what we all probably had to assume about using a grid, as I can't seem to find it in the core books: "If a creature’s miniature is in an affected square, that creature is in the area." I would read this to mean that if a creature's base overlaps with a spell's effect by any number of squares, then it is affected (for the same reason that a creature is only affected once even if more than one of its squares is in an area).
This would be Hypnotic Pattern spell.
The area you’ve drawn in purple is 20’x25’, not 30’ sq. The box inside is even smaller. Most spells must be their entire size unless they’re blocked, just as a side note.
I'm sorry, the picture supposed to be a hypotetic situation, I have drawn a random rectangle just to replicate what happened in the game, which was two creatures being filled by only one square of the spell
Yes both giant would be in the area effect of your Hypnotic Pattern spell.
Without seeing what actually happened in the game, there's no way to answer your question. A "hypothetical" which doesn't even show the correct AoE for the spell is meaningless
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Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
Here, this is exactly what happened in the game with the correct AoE
The spell will hit both giants. Huge creatures cover a 3x3 area -- any AoE that covers part of that area, even just one square, will affect them
Active characters:
Askatu, hyperfocused vedalken freedom fighter in Wildspace (Zealot barb/Swashbuckler rogue/Battle Master fighter)
Green Hill Sunrise, jaded tabaxi mercenary trapped in the Dark Domains (Battle Master fighter)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
This is one of the major drawbacks of being a larger size; you are a lot easier to hit with areas of effect, as any overlap means you take the same damage as somebody fully within it.
I've been experimenting with some rules for greater coverage on areas of effect, but that's mostly to help players with area damage effects that are less useful when facing a single big monster, e.g- a dragonborn's breath weapon, or a Druid (as the spell list doesn't include a lot of good single target damage spells at various levels).
But yeah, in the vanilla game any amount of overlap means you take the full effect; a DM can of course rule otherwise if there are any kind of obstructions, or they feel that a specific monster should need more coverage to be affected or whatever, but that is usually be a narrative decision rather than a mechanical one.
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Apart from the uncanny precision of your spellcaster being able to mentally measure that out in a flash of battle - yep they both are within the AoE.
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Normal and not uncanny at all for Wizards with an Int of 16 or higher. Especially given the assumption that they have practiced it before. Clerics, you can make the claim about them being Wise enough.
Sorcerer/Bard I can see an argument about it being unreasonable.
Warlock, they only have very few spells, so it should be assumed they practice them long enough to know exactly how big it is.