Is this character even possible to make? I thought I had it figured out but apparently I did it wrong. I am really confused....Can someone explain how I would go about this?
You just say you were a Goliath before you became a Dhampir. The lineage rules spell this out:
If you choose a lineage, you might have once been a member of another race, but you aren’t any longer. You now possess only your lineage’s racial traits.
The dhampir's ancestral legacy feature specifically lets you keep the Athletics proficiency you would have gotten as a Goliath, but since the alternative is getting two proficiencies of your choice, you're better off not doing keeping the Goliath proficiency. Just pick Athletics as one of the two you get if you want the flavor.
I got that part but it's the Custom Lineage that's throwing me off. Would I also lose the Dhampir traits by using the Custom Lineage rule? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. I basically made a starting character using the Custom Lineage rules. I used the Feat to get a 18 Strength and another player was giving me grief about it
I got that part but it's the Custom Lineage that's throwing me off. Would I also lose the Dhampir traits by using the Custom Lineage rule? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. I basically made a starting character using the Custom Lineage rules. I used the Feat to get a 18 Strength and another player was giving me grief about it
I would rule that you lose the feat from Custom Lineage once you embraced being a Dhampir otherwise it just becomes too powerful.
Custom Lineage only gives you the traits spelled out in the rules for it. It is not a way to customize other lineages. If you take custom lineage, you only get the options presented there: You are a humanoid that is medium or small, with 30' speed, one +2 ASI, one feat, one variable trait (darkvision or proficiency) and a language.
The only thing Goliath or Dhampir about custom lineage is flavor.
Is this character even possible to make? I thought I had it figured out but apparently I did it wrong. I am really confused....Can someone explain how I would go about this?
No. You can be an ex-Goliath Dhampir or an ex-CL Dhampir, but there's no such thing as a Goliath/CL or a Goliath/CL/Dhampir.
Ok, so if I for instance started a CL Character at Level 1 that happens to look like a Goliath. I lose all the Goliath traits except "athletics" and gain the CL traits, specifically the Feat. Then at 2nd Level I become a Dhampir, which trumps the CL traits right? Would that also mean I would lose my Feat as well? That was my way of getting an 18 Stat..
Ok, so if I for instance started a CL Character at Level 1 that happens to look like a Goliath. I lose all the Goliath traits except "athletics" and gain the CL traits, specifically the Feat. Then at 2nd Level I become a Dhampir, which trumps the CL traits right? Would that also mean I would lose my Feat as well? That was my way of getting an 18 Stat..
You don't lose all Goliath traits except "Athletics," you lose all Goliath traits period. You only get to keep Athletics if you're actually a Goliath and later become a dhampir. Once you become a dhampir, you lose the feat.
If you started at level one as a Custom Lineage all you ever had were the Custom Lineage traits. Describing your Custom Lineage as looking like a Goliath or being a variant of the Goliath race has no mechanical benefits, it is just the flavor you have created for your Custom Lineage.
Ok, so if I for instance started a CL Character at Level 1 that happens to look like a Goliath. I lose all the Goliath traits except "athletics" and gain the CL traits, specifically the Feat. Then at 2nd Level I become a Dhampir, which trumps the CL traits right? Would that also mean I would lose my Feat as well? That was my way of getting an 18 Stat..
You don't lose any Goliath traits because you never had any, and you don't have any, including Athletics. You're a CL with CL traits.
You can't become a Dhampir at level 2 without homebrew from your DM, so we can't tell you how it will work as we don't know what the homebrew will entail. If it works like the reincarnate spell, it's still entirely based on your DM's assumptions about how the race change should work.
You can't become a Dhampir at level 2 without homebrew from your DM, so we can't tell you how it will work as we don't know what the homebrew will entail. If it works like the reincarnate spell, it's still entirely based on your DM's assumptions about how the race change should work.
That's not true at all. While it's obviously not well-defined narratively, the mechanics of how this race change works are very well-defined, by the dhampir's ancestral legacy trait, which I already mentioned earlier in the thread.
WolfOfBees is correct, only Variant Humans and Custom Lineage start with a feat at level 1. WotC is exploring adding a feat to Backgrounds, but this is in pay test material for the next edition of D&D.
If your goal is just to start with an 18 Strength then it might be possible if your DM allowed rolling for stats. Using 4d6 drop lowest you have a little over a 56% chance of rolling a 16 or higher.
Getting an 18 in a stat requires only using Tasha's rules and a feat, both of which should be perfectly legal, given what you've already proposed. Tasha's lets you give yourself +2 to a stat of your choice. Point buy lets you put 15 to it, which is 17 and the half feat from V Human or any other method of getting a feat at 1 gets you to 18. Also note, at level 1-4, you won't see much, if any difference in a 16 or an 18 in 90% of situations, You normally don't face things where that extra point is making the difference that early.
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Is this character even possible to make? I thought I had it figured out but apparently I did it wrong. I am really confused....Can someone explain how I would go about this?
You just say you were a Goliath before you became a Dhampir. The lineage rules spell this out:
The dhampir's ancestral legacy feature specifically lets you keep the Athletics proficiency you would have gotten as a Goliath, but since the alternative is getting two proficiencies of your choice, you're better off not doing keeping the Goliath proficiency. Just pick Athletics as one of the two you get if you want the flavor.
I got that part but it's the Custom Lineage that's throwing me off. Would I also lose the Dhampir traits by using the Custom Lineage rule? That's the part that doesn't make sense to me. I basically made a starting character using the Custom Lineage rules. I used the Feat to get a 18 Strength and another player was giving me grief about it
I would rule that you lose the feat from Custom Lineage once you embraced being a Dhampir otherwise it just becomes too powerful.
Custom Lineage only gives you the traits spelled out in the rules for it. It is not a way to customize other lineages. If you take custom lineage, you only get the options presented there: You are a humanoid that is medium or small, with 30' speed, one +2 ASI, one feat, one variable trait (darkvision or proficiency) and a language.
The only thing Goliath or Dhampir about custom lineage is flavor.
No. You can be an ex-Goliath Dhampir or an ex-CL Dhampir, but there's no such thing as a Goliath/CL or a Goliath/CL/Dhampir.
Ok, so if I for instance started a CL Character at Level 1 that happens to look like a Goliath. I lose all the Goliath traits except "athletics" and gain the CL traits, specifically the Feat. Then at 2nd Level I become a Dhampir, which trumps the CL traits right? Would that also mean I would lose my Feat as well? That was my way of getting an 18 Stat..
You don't lose all Goliath traits except "Athletics," you lose all Goliath traits period. You only get to keep Athletics if you're actually a Goliath and later become a dhampir. Once you become a dhampir, you lose the feat.
If you started at level one as a Custom Lineage all you ever had were the Custom Lineage traits. Describing your Custom Lineage as looking like a Goliath or being a variant of the Goliath race has no mechanical benefits, it is just the flavor you have created for your Custom Lineage.
You don't lose any Goliath traits because you never had any, and you don't have any, including Athletics. You're a CL with CL traits.
You can't become a Dhampir at level 2 without homebrew from your DM, so we can't tell you how it will work as we don't know what the homebrew will entail. If it works like the reincarnate spell, it's still entirely based on your DM's assumptions about how the race change should work.
That's not true at all. While it's obviously not well-defined narratively, the mechanics of how this race change works are very well-defined, by the dhampir's ancestral legacy trait, which I already mentioned earlier in the thread.
Ok, so besides homebrew is there a way from me to start as a level 1 Dhampir that has an 18 stat block? The final +1 coming from a half feat.
No. Only custom lineage and variant human offer feats.
Flavor is free.
WolfOfBees is correct, only Variant Humans and Custom Lineage start with a feat at level 1. WotC is exploring adding a feat to Backgrounds, but this is in pay test material for the next edition of D&D.
If your goal is just to start with an 18 Strength then it might be possible if your DM allowed rolling for stats. Using 4d6 drop lowest you have a little over a 56% chance of rolling a 16 or higher.
Getting an 18 in a stat requires only using Tasha's rules and a feat, both of which should be perfectly legal, given what you've already proposed. Tasha's lets you give yourself +2 to a stat of your choice. Point buy lets you put 15 to it, which is 17 and the half feat from V Human or any other method of getting a feat at 1 gets you to 18. Also note, at level 1-4, you won't see much, if any difference in a 16 or an 18 in 90% of situations, You normally don't face things where that extra point is making the difference that early.
Talk to your Players. Talk to your DM. If more people used this advice, there would be 24.74% fewer threads on Tactics, Rules and DM discussions.