So the player takes a level in Bard and gets the "You can cast any bard spell you know as a ritual if that spell has the ritual tag" class feature. Picks his new "Bard" spells and none of them are "Detect Magic" because he already has that from his Paladin days. Now, technically Detect Magic IS a Bard spell even though he picked it as a Paladin spell. Can he cast this ritually now since the Paladin side of him couldn't before?
No, because it's picked as a Paladin spell. However, there's nothing stopping him from picking it as a Bard and picking something else as a Paladin, since Paladins are prepared casters and can change their spells out at the end of a long rest (unless it's an Oath spell).
Even though he doesn't need to prepare it to ritually cast it as a bard? It's just sitting in his memory banks as it were. (Edit) And I guess he just has to remember what came from where?
The rules on multiclassing say that "you determine what spells you know and can prepare for each class individually, as if you were a single-classed member of that class," so it doesn't matter if you have a Bard level, if it's prepared as a Paladin then it has to follow the paladin rules for spellcasting. As a Bard he has to learn the spell, because Bards don't prepare spells. Fortunately, the character sheet on DDB lists the source of all spells in the actions and the spells tab -- it'll either say Paladin or Bard, or the magic item that it's from.
Even though he doesn't need to prepare it to ritually cast it as a bard? It's just sitting in his memory banks as it were. (Edit) And I guess he just has to remember what came from where?
Bards don't prepare spells, but he does need to learn it as a bard for it to be a bard spell for him. Any bard spell that the bard did not pick is not in their "memory bank".
The character sheet (on DDB) displays the source of all spells you can cast: class, race, feat, subclass, etc. No remembering required, only literacy.
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So the player takes a level in Bard and gets the "You can cast any bard spell you know as a ritual if that spell has the ritual tag" class feature. Picks his new "Bard" spells and none of them are "Detect Magic" because he already has that from his Paladin days. Now, technically Detect Magic IS a Bard spell even though he picked it as a Paladin spell. Can he cast this ritually now since the Paladin side of him couldn't before?
No, because it's picked as a Paladin spell. However, there's nothing stopping him from picking it as a Bard and picking something else as a Paladin, since Paladins are prepared casters and can change their spells out at the end of a long rest (unless it's an Oath spell).
Birgit | Shifter | Sorcerer | Dragonlords
Shayone | Hobgoblin | Sorcerer | Netherdeep
Even though he doesn't need to prepare it to ritually cast it as a bard? It's just sitting in his memory banks as it were. (Edit) And I guess he just has to remember what came from where?
The rules on multiclassing say that "you determine what spells you know and can prepare for each class individually, as if you were a single-classed member of that class," so it doesn't matter if you have a Bard level, if it's prepared as a Paladin then it has to follow the paladin rules for spellcasting. As a Bard he has to learn the spell, because Bards don't prepare spells. Fortunately, the character sheet on DDB lists the source of all spells in the actions and the spells tab -- it'll either say Paladin or Bard, or the magic item that it's from.
Birgit | Shifter | Sorcerer | Dragonlords
Shayone | Hobgoblin | Sorcerer | Netherdeep
Bards don't prepare spells, but he does need to learn it as a bard for it to be a bard spell for him. Any bard spell that the bard did not pick is not in their "memory bank".
The character sheet (on DDB) displays the source of all spells you can cast: class, race, feat, subclass, etc. No remembering required, only literacy.