Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
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It does not actually say this. It says, in two separate sentences:
You can make the argument that the two sentences are linked by context, causing the first sentence to be a prerequisite of the other, but the rules do not make it an explicit requirement and a normal reading does not either. It might not be RAI since it does not follow the design pattern of spells telling you fully and explicitly the effects of the spells and the actions allowed and/or required by the spell. However, I think this is a flaw of the writing and presents itself in either reading.
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Goodberry rules:
One casting of spell gives you 10 berries
Berries are good for 24 hours
If you eat a berry, you get 1 hit point and sustenance for one day. Rules generally say that any rule that says per day or for one day lasts until your next long rest.
Therefore, if you eat multiple berries quickly, you get mutlitple hitpoints, and you have sustenance until your next long rest. The hitpoints increase per berry, but the sustanance is only until the next long rest.
An unconscious person cannot be fed a berry, this is because the goodberry rules only say you can eat a berry. Rules for potions of healing will say you can drink a potion or administer a potion to someone else as a bonus action. There is no rule allowing you to feed a goodberry to someone else, whether they are conscious or unconscious.
Just before you start a long rest, you may want to use an unused slot to cast goodberry and get 10 berries that last 24 hours. 8 hours of long resting later, you recover all slots, AND youve got 10 berries that will last 16 more hours before they expire. When you start that new day, eat 1 berry, and you are sustained for the entire day.
The rules do not say that only you can eat a berry. "Eating a berry restores 1 Hit Point, and the berry provides enough nourishment to sustain a creature for one day." If you are fed a berry, you are eating a berry.
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The language of Goodberry is not "you can eat a berry by spending a Bonus Action, or just, like, whenever you feel like chewing and swallowing." It outlays the requirement very clearly: the only way you can eat a berry is by expending a Bonus Action. While the action economy for eating is not outlined in most cases and, therefor, you could make an argument that it takes a simple Utilize action to eat an entire cow, you must spend a Bonus Action to eat a berry created by Goodberry, or you cannot eat it.You cannot, in fact, eat a berry created by Goodberry with an Action, a Reaction, or with any other expenditure of time. If someone shoves a berry created by the Goodberry spell in your mouth, moves your jaw up and down to masticate it, and then massages your throat, causing you to involuntarily swallow, that's all well and good. Per RAW, you have not eaten the berry until you spend the Bonus Action to do so. If you think that's a stupid distinction... I don't care. Make the case to your DM, or if you are a DM, change the rule in your game. But if you're playing by RAW, an unconscious player is incapable of eating a berry unless there is some exigent circumstance that allows that character to take a Bonus Action to do so.
I would note that feeding berries to other people was a house rule in 2014 as well -- it was always self only, it just changed from action to bonus action.
OK hold on. Are you saying that Character A can spend a Bonus Action to eat a berry then it allows Character B to get restored 1 hp!?
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Unless you’re doing some insane CPR. No, they take a bonus action to eat the berry, eating the berry restores 1 hp.
Being fed a berry does nothing, eating one does but to do so requires it to take a Bonus Action to eat one berry.
What? No. I am saying that anyone can eat a berry and regain 1 HP. Separately, you can eat a berry as a Bonus Action. Because they are separate sentences, you do not need to eat the berry as a Bonus Action to receive the healing.
For example, if it was worded as one sentence, the healing would be conditional on the Bonus Action. For example: "As a Bonus Action, a creature can eat one berry and regain 1 Hit Point ..."
Any method of ingesting the berry provides healing.
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"Are you saying that Character A can spend a Bonus Action to eat a berry then it allows Character B to get restored 1 hp!?"
There is one rule rhat is key: "A creature can take a Bonus Action to eat one berry."
A creature cant take a bonus action if they are unconscious. And no where in the goodberry spell descriotion does it say a creature can take a bonus action to feed a goodberry to another creature.
So the only way to eat a goodberry is that you are conscious, you have a goodberry in your inventory or hand, and on your turn you use a bonus action to eat it.
Someone else cant administer a goodberry into you. Thats not in the rules anywhere. So if you dont have the ability to.take a bonus action, you cant eat one.
The next sentence in the spell description says : "Eating a berry restores 1 Hit Point, and the berry provides enough nourishment "
So, we know there is only one way to eat a goodberry. You use your bonus action to put one in your mouth and eat it.
And if you eat a goodberry, you get 1 hp and nourishment.
You eat one berry on your bonus action, you get 1hp and noirishment
You feed it to yourself on your bonus action, you get the hp.
You confuse the effect of eating a Goodberry and the action to do so.
There's no other method for a creature to eat a berry than by taking a Bonus Action provided in the spell. You can't eat a berry with an action, reaction or your free item interaction for example, nor does someone else feeding you doing anything unless you actually take a Bonus Action eat the berry you were fed.
I am not confusing anything.
If eating requires a specific, per-edible definition of an action, what is the action required to eat rations?
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The action required to eat Rations or drink beer isn't specified.
The action to eat a Goodberry or drink a Potion of Healing is specified as a Bonus Action.
The effect of eating a berry is specified. The effect is not tied to using a Bonus Action to eat a berry. Therefore, by RAW, in any situation where you eat a berry, you regain Hit Points. The Bonus Action of Goodberry and Potion of Healing don't necessarily prevent you from using other actions, such as a Utilize Action to achieve the same end.
Anyone wanting an avenue for providing first aid via Goodberry, can use that distinction.
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Yes the rules prevent it you can't use a Bonus Action as an Action unless noted otherwise as per Sage Advice.
I don't see anything forbidding eating the berry as an unspecified action of the same type you would use to eat any other item that lacks a described means of eating it.
Well if you apply this logic, then you can circumvent any game feature requiring a specific Bonus Action.
The game specifically mention when you can administer a consumable to another creature as a Bonus Action at several places. Goodberry isn't specifically one of them.
Besides Potions of Healing and Potions in general, another such exemple specified in the rules is:
You can circumvent any game feature where there is a more generic action that applies; in most cases there isn't, and typically using the generic action won't be beneficial in the first place (note that general purpose eating, such as eating rations, is generally a downtime activity, not a combat action).
I believe if there was a generic action that let you administer consumable to other creatures then Keoghtom's Ointment, Potion of Healing and Potions in general wouldn't need to specifically allow it.