I never used anything called "feelz op", those are you words. I'd submit if you can show me in the rules where it says you can use Total Character Levels to gain Epic Boons, but you can't because no such thing exists in that section. The MC section specifically states where TCL's apply, and Boons aren't listed.
'Level' is defined in the character advancement table. Any time the game refers to level rather than <class> level, it means total character level.
Just because you state something doesn't make it true. You have not articulated a reason for your statement outside of the equivalent of "feelz op". The text of the ability score improvement feature says "You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat or another feat of your choice for which you qualify." Epic boon feats are feats. They do not require having the epic boon feature nor do they require you be class level 19. Therefore you are eligible if you multiclass and plan it in such a way to get an ability score improvement feature at character level 19 and character level 20.
I never used anything called "feelz op", those are you words. I'd submit if you can show me in the rules where it says you can use Total Character Levels to gain Epic Boons, but you can't because no such thing exists in that section. The MC section specifically states where TCL's apply, and Boons aren't listed. Neither are Feats for that matter. If it's not a rule, it doesn't exists and it's just Table Settings/Homebrew.
You literally just made the argument against your position. No where does it say class level. When features mean class level they say class level. Invocations specify class level, magic item plans specify class level, epic boons do not. By your own logic your position is homebrew because you are adding to what is written in the rules to get a class level interpretation. Furthermore level is defined in the creating a character chapter, level advancement section and part of gaining a level is to choose a class. That section shows that level is distinct from class level. When features do not specify class level then they don't use class level. A perfect example of this is cantrips. By your ruling a thief rogue who took true strike through a 2 level wizard dip would never get the additional damage since it just says level, like epic boons.
Just because you state something doesn't make it true. You have not articulated a reason for your statement outside of the equivalent of "feelz op". The text of the ability score improvement feature says "You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat or another feat of your choice for which you qualify." Epic boon feats are feats. They do not require having the epic boon feature nor do they require you be class level 19. Therefore you are eligible if you multiclass and plan it in such a way to get an ability score improvement feature at character level 19 and character level 20.
I never used anything called "feelz op", those are you words. I'd submit if you can show me in the rules where it says you can use Total Character Levels to gain Epic Boons, but you can't because no such thing exists in that section. The MC section specifically states where TCL's apply, and Boons aren't listed. Neither are Feats for that matter. If it's not a rule, it doesn't exists and it's just Table Settings/Homebrew.
You literally just made the argument against your position. No where does it say class level. When features mean class level they say class level. Invocations specify class level, magic item plans specify class level, epic boons do not. By your own logic your position is homebrew because you are adding to what is written in the rules to get a class level interpretation. Furthermore level is defined in the creating a character chapter, level advancement section and part of gaining a level is to choose a class. That section shows that level is distinct from class level. When features do not specify class level then they don't use class level. A perfect example of this is cantrips. By your ruling a thief rogue who took true strike through a 2 level wizard dip would never get the additional damage since it just says level, like epic boons.
I'll have to double check, but the words "class level" doesn't appear as a description in either the PHB or DMG. In any case, your reply is a diversion from answering the question I presented to you: Where does it say you gain Epic Boons from Total Character Levels? Answer that with the page number, and you win the argument. If you can't, then I consider the our discussion over. Thank you in advance.
I'll have to double check, but the words "class level" doesn't appear as a description in either the PHB or DMG.
Pretty clearly what they mean is that when a feature or rule is referring to levels in one specific class, it always says that explicitly. For example, the Fighter class's "Second Wind" feature says that when you use it, you "regain Hit Points equal to 1d10 plus your Fighter level" (emphasis mine). This is how you know it's referring to your level in the Fighter class specifically, not your total character level. In cases where the word "level" appears without the name of a class attached to it like this (like the prerequisites for feats) it refers to your character's total level.
Where does it say you gain Epic Boons from Total Character Levels? Answer that with the page number, and you win the argument. If you can't, then I consider the our discussion over. Thank you in advance.
You are not going to find an explicit statement in the rules that minimum levels stated in feat prerequisites refer to character level; if that's the only thing that will convince you, then yes, you should consider the discussion over, because you are clearly determined not to change your mind no matter what. If you are instead willing to actually read what other people are saying and think about it logically, well, the rules that establish this fact have already been pointed out to you several times (most recently by Pantagruel666 in post #61 in this thread).
Feat prerequisites refer to character level simply because to refer to levels in a specific class, they would have to say what class they're talking about (as I described above) because feats are not class features that are specific to a particular class.
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'Level' is defined in the character advancement table. Any time the game refers to level rather than <class> level, it means total character level.
You literally just made the argument against your position. No where does it say class level. When features mean class level they say class level. Invocations specify class level, magic item plans specify class level, epic boons do not. By your own logic your position is homebrew because you are adding to what is written in the rules to get a class level interpretation. Furthermore level is defined in the creating a character chapter, level advancement section and part of gaining a level is to choose a class. That section shows that level is distinct from class level. When features do not specify class level then they don't use class level. A perfect example of this is cantrips. By your ruling a thief rogue who took true strike through a 2 level wizard dip would never get the additional damage since it just says level, like epic boons.
I'll have to double check, but the words "class level" doesn't appear as a description in either the PHB or DMG. In any case, your reply is a diversion from answering the question I presented to you: Where does it say you gain Epic Boons from Total Character Levels? Answer that with the page number, and you win the argument. If you can't, then I consider the our discussion over. Thank you in advance.
Pretty clearly what they mean is that when a feature or rule is referring to levels in one specific class, it always says that explicitly. For example, the Fighter class's "Second Wind" feature says that when you use it, you "regain Hit Points equal to 1d10 plus your Fighter level" (emphasis mine). This is how you know it's referring to your level in the Fighter class specifically, not your total character level. In cases where the word "level" appears without the name of a class attached to it like this (like the prerequisites for feats) it refers to your character's total level.
You are not going to find an explicit statement in the rules that minimum levels stated in feat prerequisites refer to character level; if that's the only thing that will convince you, then yes, you should consider the discussion over, because you are clearly determined not to change your mind no matter what. If you are instead willing to actually read what other people are saying and think about it logically, well, the rules that establish this fact have already been pointed out to you several times (most recently by Pantagruel666 in post #61 in this thread).
Feat prerequisites refer to character level simply because to refer to levels in a specific class, they would have to say what class they're talking about (as I described above) because feats are not class features that are specific to a particular class.
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