Someone posted this on Discord and said this was Two Weapon fighting?
"Two-Weapon Fighting When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon that you’re holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack with a different light melee weapon that you’re holding in the other hand"
Another posted something similar:
"I'm talking about Two-Weapon Fighting... y'know... when people use two light weapons on each hand, and can use a bonus action to attack with the second light weapon if they used their attack with the light weapon on the other hand. I'm not talking bout no feats, no fighting styles, no nothing?"
That sounds more like Dual Wielder, since Two Weapon Fighting just allows you to add your ability modifier and no other attacks. But people on there agreed with them that this is Two Weapon Fighting.
What you've quoted there are the rules for two-weapon fighting from the 2014 Player's Handbook. This is something anyone can do if they're holding two Light weapons: attack with one using their action, then with the other using a bonus action.
"Two-Weapon Fighting", with the capitals, is also the name of a fighting style option (or a fighting style feat in the 2024 rules) that adds your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus action attack. It's not required to use the base two-weapon fighting feature.
This confusing terminology is part of why the 2024 rules moved the concept of two-weapon fighting to being part of the rules for the Light property, and stopped calling it "two-weapon fighting".
Someone posted this on Discord and said this was Two Weapon fighting?
"Two-Weapon Fighting When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon that you’re holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack with a different light melee weapon that you’re holding in the other hand"
Another posted something similar:
"I'm talking about Two-Weapon Fighting... y'know... when people use two light weapons on each hand, and can use a bonus action to attack with the second light weapon if they used their attack with the light weapon on the other hand. I'm not talking bout no feats, no fighting styles, no nothing?"
That sounds more like Dual Wielder, since Two Weapon Fighting just allows you to add your ability modifier and no other attacks. But people on there agreed with them that this is Two Weapon Fighting.
It's confusing in the app... but you're not alone on this, more people were confused about it:
Mattrooper, if it's useful for you, Plaguescarred also wrote this nice summary mixing the Nick Weapon Mastery, Light Property, and the feats Dual Wielder and Two-Weapon Fighting Style:
To me the investments are consequent when wielding two weapons;
Unitiated Wielder: 1 attack with a Light weapon as Attack Action, 1 extra attack with a different Light weapon as a Bonus Action with no damage mod.
Nick Master: 1 attack with a Light weapon and 1 extra attack with a different Light weapon as Attack Action with no damage mod.
Two-Weapon Fighter: 1 attack with a Light weapon, 1 extra attack with a different Light weapon as a Bonus Action with no damage mod.
Dual Wielder: 1 attack with a Light weapon as Attack Action, 1 extra attack with a different non-Two Handed melee weapon as a Bonus Action with no damage mod.
Nick Master Two-Weapon Fighter: 1 attack with a Light weapon as Attack Action and 1 extra attack with a different Light weapon as Attack Action with no damage mod.
Dual Wielder Two-Weapon Fighter: 1 attack with a Light weapon as Attack Action, 1 extra attack with a different non-Two Handed melee weapon as a Bonus Action with no damage mod.
Dual Wielder Nick Mastery: 1 attack with a Light weapon and 1 extra attack with a different Light weapon as Attack Action with no damage mod., 1 extra attack with a different non-Two Handed melee weapon as a Bonus Action with no damage mod.
Two-Weapon Fighter Dual Wielder Nick Master: 1 attack with a Light weapon and 1 extra attack with a different Light weapon as Attack Action, 1 extra attack with a different non-Two Handed melee weapon as a Bonus Action with no damage mod.
Not sure how you only have 1 weapon mastery at level 1, but it's a moot point. If you're looking for a 2 weapon build and the most number of attacks...
At level 1
- you have 2 weapons
- 1 is a nick weapon with which you have proficiency.
You can make 2 attacks, 1 normal attack and 1 light property attack as a bonus action.
- Nick allows you to move the light property attack from a bonus action to the main action but you are still limited to just 1 attack.
At level 4
- you have the same two weapons, 1 is a nick weapon
- you take the Feat - Dual Wielder
you can make 3 attacks, 1 normal attack, 1 light property attack via nick and as a bonus action, 1 Dual Wielder attack (has to be melee weapon)
At level 5
- you have the same weapons and feat as at level 4 but you get extra attack
you can make 4 attacks, 2 normal attacks, 1 light property attack via nick and as a bonus action, 1 Dual Wielder attack (has to be melee weapon)
As a Fighter or Warlock it is possible to get more attacks (but Warlock doesn't get weapon mastery as a class feature) but at that point 2 weapon builds tend not to perform as well as heavy weapon builds.
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Someone posted this on Discord and said this was Two Weapon fighting?
"Two-Weapon Fighting When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon that you’re holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack with a different light melee weapon that you’re holding in the other hand"
Another posted something similar:
"I'm talking about Two-Weapon Fighting... y'know... when people use two light weapons on each hand, and can use a bonus action to attack with the second light weapon if they used their attack with the light weapon on the other hand. I'm not talking bout no feats, no fighting styles, no nothing?"
That sounds more like Dual Wielder, since Two Weapon Fighting just allows you to add your ability modifier and no other attacks. But people on there agreed with them that this is Two Weapon Fighting.
What you've quoted there are the rules for two-weapon fighting from the 2014 Player's Handbook. This is something anyone can do if they're holding two Light weapons: attack with one using their action, then with the other using a bonus action.
"Two-Weapon Fighting", with the capitals, is also the name of a fighting style option (or a fighting style feat in the 2024 rules) that adds your ability modifier to the damage of the bonus action attack. It's not required to use the base two-weapon fighting feature.
This confusing terminology is part of why the 2024 rules moved the concept of two-weapon fighting to being part of the rules for the Light property, and stopped calling it "two-weapon fighting".
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It's still labeled as such in character sheets under Bonus Actions, though. So...
It's confusing in the app... but you're not alone on this, more people were confused about it:
- https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/rules-game-mechanics/224541-2024-is-two-weapon-fighting-different-than-the?comment=4
- https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/rules-game-mechanics/219475-two-weapon-fighting-shows-up-as-bonus-action-on?comment=4
- https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/dungeons-dragons-discussion/rules-game-mechanics/230512-dagger-mastery-nick-dual-wielder-two-weapon?comment=17
Worth noting that one of the big differences is you don't need to hold the two weapons at the same time RAW to benefit from the Light weapon property.
Yeah, they could've done a better job there.
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Right, we are very confused by a combo of using a light weapon in each hand:
A PC has:
We think at this 4th level he will get 3 attacks , two of which add Ability damage, and one at advantage?
I tried to read some previous threads but just got lost!!
Any Assistance
TA.
JohnRDavis I'd like to share with you a couple of posts and a video. Probably the text stuff covers your question.