Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
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Which does not mean you are unable to notice things without taking the search action. Passive perception defines what you notice when you don't take the search action.
It defines what you notice during the portion of the game where you're not even taking actions.
It doesn't, however, let you take infinite search actions for no reason. That's absurd. In combat you are tracking turn by turn action use.
I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
It doesn't let you take any search actions, because it's not the search action. It's a passive trait like armor class.
Oof. Well, thanks for the source. The second one is definitely Jeremy Crawford talking out of nowhere with no rules support. The first one can be taken as RAI that passive perception is intended to replace searching, but the two together casts doubt if the first is just an extension of the second non-rule.
"The tweets of Jeremy Crawford ... " and so on.
I agree about passive perception in combat but "passively paying attention" seems like a bit of an oxymoron.
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My houserulings.
RAI more than anything, no rules nor SAC ever got this printed somewhere.
Personally, i don't always use this minimum threshold concept. If i ask for an active Wisdom (Perception) check, it's so the result can expressly be above or below your Passive Perception score as i don't use this score.
While general awareness was always on unless your unaware of your surrounding, a Perception check is only needed when DM asks for it, wether active or passive is at my discretion. One could then ask how could you often be less perceptive when actively searching then your general awareness? My answer is focused attention. It's one or the other i use though, as DM i usually uses an active check, unless i use a passive one instead, i don't usually use both.
If a player at my table brought this line of reasoning to me it would feel like they're trying to ruleslawyer themselves into have free actions.
Yes, of course you can see obvious stuff around you without a check. But that isn't what's being discussed. It is finding hidden or hard to notice things. In combat... that is the Search action.
Outside of combat you're not really tracking turn by turn actions, so your DM will either ask for the check OR use your passive if they don't want to tip you the player off that something is there to be missed.
It's right in the players handbook.
I'm probably laughing.
It is apparently so hard to program Aberrant Mind and Clockwork Soul spell-swapping into dndbeyond they had to remake the game without it rather than implement it.
In standard English, the difference between "active" and "passive" is that the person performing the action is active, the person receiving the action is passive. Thus, passive perception should be the thing you use when you are not the person acting -- which means you are not taking an action.
It is possible D&D is choosing to use the word in a nonstandard manner, 5e has done a lousy job of explaining what passive perception is actually about, but that's the natural interpretation of their choice of words.