Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
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So your position is actually that the rules don't say anything about it either way? I'm having trouble figuring out what you're saying.
When interpreting things like this, it's often helpful to ask oneself: if this is what they meant, would they have written it this way?
If the intent was for the feat prerequisite "Level 19+" to actually mean "Level 19+ in a single class", is that the way they would've written it? Is it credible to imagine that they wouldn't have explicitly said "Level 19+ in a single class" if that's what they actually meant?
Remember, everywhere else in the rules where "level" refers to a class level, they call that out explicitly, saying things like "Hit Points equal to 1d10 plus your Fighter level".
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That's a 2014 rule. This was removed in 2024. It's now a feat with the only requirement that the character be level 19+.
The fact that DnDBeyond let's you pick them when multiclassing is not a bug or an oversight. DnDB correctly prevents you from getting 2 Action Surges at level 17 if you don't have 17 levels in Fighter, for example. DnDB's character sheets have many bugs and issues, but multiclassing is not something that causes them.
It would be an understandable interpretation. Wrong, but understandable.
All ASIs have the same text: "You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat (see chapter 5) or another feat of your choice for which you qualify."
Qualify, here, means "you meet the prerequisites". Most epic boon feats have only one prerequisite: level 19+. Thus, you can take an epic boon feat with an ASI if you're high enough level to do so, because it is "another feat ... for which you qualify"
But then why is level 19 say you can get a Boon feat vice just a feat? The wording at level 19 should be the same if you can get any feat. In the beginning texts usually in the 4th level description it lists the levels you can get a feat, but none list Level 19.
Looking at it from the class descriptions, you can not get a Boon feat at level 4 and you can't get a standard feat at level 19.
I think people are only interpreting 1/2 the verbiage because it is what they want to use to their personal benefit. They are ignoring what is said and even what is not said.
Many times people write the rule just does what it says. And while all classes say you can get a feat at X level, no level says you can get a Boon feat except when explained on the 19th level.
That's true, those lower-level class features don't explicitly say you can get an Epic Boon feat from them.
They also don't explicitly say you can choose a General feat. So, does that mean you're not allowed to take a General feat via those lower-level features?
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Dont multiclass in my campaigns then and youll be fine.
“Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.” — Voltaire
It's a reminder that you're allowed and expected to take an epic boon feat. It's no different from 'ability score improvement' not actually requiring you to take the ability score improvement feat.
You HAVE to take an epic boon and can NOT take a general feat? Id say dont threaten me.with a good time.
“Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.” — Voltaire
I think you've misunderstood me.
I was referring to the lower-level class features that grant feats at class level 4, 8, etc. Character77006 was arguing that these can't grant Epic Boon feats because they don't specifically say they can grant Epic Boon feats. I was pointing out that by that logic, they can't grant General feats either, because they don't specifically say they can grant General feats. That's silly.
All of the ASI class features in all the existing classes allow you to take any feat that you qualify for from any feat category, including Epic Boons, provided you meet the prerequisites on the individual feat.
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Epic Boons and General are different categories of feats
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/phb-2024/feats#FeatList
Thats good enough for me.
“Doubt is not a pleasant condition, but certainty is absurd.” — Voltaire
They are, yes. But nothing in any of the ASI class features limits you to a specific category of feats, so that's not really relevant. That's my point.
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Yep! You can also take a Fighting Style if you already have the Fighting Style feature, or even an Origin Feat.
You can take ANY feat your character qualifies for, including Epic Boon Feats.