Qualify, here, means "you meet the prerequisites". Most epic boon feats have only one prerequisite: level 19+. Thus, you can take an epic boon feat with an ASI if you're high enough level to do so, because it is "another feat ... for which you qualify"
But then why is level 19 say you can get a Boon feat vice just a feat? The wording at level 19 should be the same if you can get any feat. In the beginning texts usually in the 4th level description it lists the levels you can get a feat, but none list Level 19.
Looking at it from the class descriptions, you can not get a Boon feat at level 4 and you can't get a standard feat at level 19.
I think people are only interpreting 1/2 the verbiage because it is what they want to use to their personal benefit. They are ignoring what is said and even what is not said.
Many times people write the rule just does what it says. And while all classes say you can get a feat at X level, no level says you can get a Boon feat except when explained on the 19th level.
Many times people write the rule just does what it says. And while all classes say you can get a feat at X level, no level says you can get a Boon feat except when explained on the 19th level.
That's true, those lower-level class features don't explicitly say you can get an Epic Boon feat from them.
They also don't explicitly say you can choose a General feat. So, does that mean you're not allowed to take a General feat via those lower-level features?
But then why is level 19 say you can get a Boon feat vice just a feat?
It's a reminder that you're allowed and expected to take an epic boon feat. It's no different from 'ability score improvement' not actually requiring you to take the ability score improvement feat.
They also don't explicitly say you can choose a General feat. So, does that mean you're not allowed to take a General feat via those features?
You HAVE to take an epic boon and can NOT take a general feat? Id say dont threaten me.with a good time.
I think you've misunderstood me.
I was referring to the lower-level class features that grant feats at class level 4, 8, etc. Character77006 was arguing that these can't grant Epic Boon feats because they don't specifically say they can grant Epic Boon feats. I was pointing out that by that logic, they can't grant General feats either, because they don't specifically say they can grant General feats. That's silly.
All of the ASI class features in all the existing classes allow you to take any feat that you qualify for from any feat category, including Epic Boons, provided you meet the prerequisites on the individual feat.
They also don't explicitly say you can choose a General feat. So, does that mean you're not allowed to take a General feat via those features?
You HAVE to take an epic boon and can NOT take a general feat? Id say dont threaten me.with a good time.
I think you've misunderstood me.
I was referring to the lower-level class features that grant feats at class level 4, 8, etc. Character77006 was arguing that these can't grant Epic Boon feats because they don't specifically say they can grant Epic Boon feats. I was pointing out that by that logic, they can't grant General feats either, because they don't specifically say they can grant General feats. That's silly.
All of the ASI class features in all the existing classes allow you to take any feat that you qualify for from any feat category, including Epic Boons, provided you meet the prerequisites on the individual feat.
Epic Boons and General are different categories of feats
They are, yes. But nothing in any of the ASI class features limits you to a specific category of feats, so that's not really relevant. That's my point.
Yep! You can also take a Fighting Style if you already have the Fighting Style feature, or even an Origin Feat. You can take ANY feat your character qualifies for, including Epic Boon Feats.
You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat or another feat of your choice for which you qualify. You gain this feature again at "Your Class" levels 8, 12, and 16.
I think the last few comments has highlighted the important bit here: The different categories of feats are just names and a way of organizing, but don't actually have much in the way of mechanical meaning. That comes from the prerequisites to take them (which are standardized: General Feat = level 4+ required, Fighting Style Feat = Fighting Style Feature Required, Epic Boon = Level 19+ required). The Origin Feats are the only ones that are different and only insofar as the rules tell you that backgrounds contain an Origin Feat that you get. In the actual backgrounds themselves, however, they aren't even listed as Origin Feats. The reason is likely simply to make Custom Backgrounds easier to make within the rules.
In the actual backgrounds themselves, however, they aren't even listed as Origin Feats. The reason is likely simply to make Custom Backgrounds easier to make within the rules.
There have also now been several official backgrounds released that grant feats that aren't Origin Feats.
Epic Boons specifically say 19th level. After 20th then you can chose an EP or any Feat you qualify for. Both per the rules.
Epic boons say 19th level, but they don't say 19th level in one class. Someone who is fighter-11/rogue-7 at level 18, becomes fighter-11/rogue-8 at 19, and fighter-12/rogue-8 at 20, can take an epic boon at both levels.
Yep! You can also take a Fighting Style if you already have the Fighting Style feature, or even an Origin Feat. You can take ANY feat your character qualifies for, including Epic Boon Feats.
You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat or another feat of your choice for which you qualify. You gain this feature again at "Your Class" levels 8, 12, and 16.
Assuming you mean at 19th level with regards to Epic Boons, because you are not taking that at any of the above Feat levels.
Yep! You can also take a Fighting Style if you already have the Fighting Style feature, or even an Origin Feat. You can take ANY feat your character qualifies for, including Epic Boon Feats.
You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat or another feat of your choice for which you qualify. You gain this feature again at "Your Class" levels 8, 12, and 16.
Assuming you mean at 19th level with regards to Epic Boons, because you are not taking that at any of the above Feat levels.
If you want to run it that way at your table, that's totally fine. That restriction still doesn't exist in the actual rules, though.
Yep! You can also take a Fighting Style if you already have the Fighting Style feature, or even an Origin Feat. You can take ANY feat your character qualifies for, including Epic Boon Feats.
You gain the Ability Score Improvement feat or another feat of your choice for which you qualify. You gain this feature again at "Your Class" levels 8, 12, and 16.
Assuming you mean at 19th level with regards to Epic Boons, because you are not taking that at any of the above Feat levels.
That's implied in "for which you qualify". You need to be character level 19 to get an Epic Boon, that's the requirement you need to meet to qualify.
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But then why is level 19 say you can get a Boon feat vice just a feat? The wording at level 19 should be the same if you can get any feat. In the beginning texts usually in the 4th level description it lists the levels you can get a feat, but none list Level 19.
Looking at it from the class descriptions, you can not get a Boon feat at level 4 and you can't get a standard feat at level 19.
I think people are only interpreting 1/2 the verbiage because it is what they want to use to their personal benefit. They are ignoring what is said and even what is not said.
Many times people write the rule just does what it says. And while all classes say you can get a feat at X level, no level says you can get a Boon feat except when explained on the 19th level.
That's true, those lower-level class features don't explicitly say you can get an Epic Boon feat from them.
They also don't explicitly say you can choose a General feat. So, does that mean you're not allowed to take a General feat via those lower-level features?
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It's a reminder that you're allowed and expected to take an epic boon feat. It's no different from 'ability score improvement' not actually requiring you to take the ability score improvement feat.
I think you've misunderstood me.
I was referring to the lower-level class features that grant feats at class level 4, 8, etc. Character77006 was arguing that these can't grant Epic Boon feats because they don't specifically say they can grant Epic Boon feats. I was pointing out that by that logic, they can't grant General feats either, because they don't specifically say they can grant General feats. That's silly.
All of the ASI class features in all the existing classes allow you to take any feat that you qualify for from any feat category, including Epic Boons, provided you meet the prerequisites on the individual feat.
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They are, yes. But nothing in any of the ASI class features limits you to a specific category of feats, so that's not really relevant. That's my point.
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Yep! You can also take a Fighting Style if you already have the Fighting Style feature, or even an Origin Feat.
You can take ANY feat your character qualifies for, including Epic Boon Feats.
I think the last few comments has highlighted the important bit here: The different categories of feats are just names and a way of organizing, but don't actually have much in the way of mechanical meaning. That comes from the prerequisites to take them (which are standardized: General Feat = level 4+ required, Fighting Style Feat = Fighting Style Feature Required, Epic Boon = Level 19+ required). The Origin Feats are the only ones that are different and only insofar as the rules tell you that backgrounds contain an Origin Feat that you get. In the actual backgrounds themselves, however, they aren't even listed as Origin Feats. The reason is likely simply to make Custom Backgrounds easier to make within the rules.
There have also now been several official backgrounds released that grant feats that aren't Origin Feats.
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There are effects, such as warlock lessons of the first ones, that are limited to origin feats.
Epic boons say 19th level, but they don't say 19th level in one class. Someone who is fighter-11/rogue-7 at level 18, becomes fighter-11/rogue-8 at 19, and fighter-12/rogue-8 at 20, can take an epic boon at both levels.
Assuming you mean at 19th level with regards to Epic Boons, because you are not taking that at any of the above Feat levels.
If you want to run it that way at your table, that's totally fine. That restriction still doesn't exist in the actual rules, though.
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That's implied in "for which you qualify". You need to be character level 19 to get an Epic Boon, that's the requirement you need to meet to qualify.