Can unseen servant be instructed to move within the humanoid form of dancing lights for one hour, so that a player can move both of them with the same bonus action?
Basically the intended effect is to create a phantom that can hold something and walk down a hallway and distract some guards, without using any spell slots. But it needs to be visible so it actually draws their attention. The caster's plan is to hide in a Minor Illusion faux crate or similar and to direct this unseen servant and dancing lights form to pick up objects and steal them, while also using mage hand to steal other objects in the dark. Basically.
Can this actually work with the rules? Or is it impossible to chain one to the other? I think it might be possible, but am unsure.
A quick test to see if something would likely be allowed (regardless of RAW) is if you are trying to use fewer resources "cleverly" to accomplish the same thing as something does by default using more resources. If you are, then expect to be shut down. Players have been trying to insta-kill things with "clever" uses of cantrips for ages. It just doesn't work that way.
Sabin76 gives a good rule of thumb. I’d add that in this case, from a rules perspective, no, you can’t use 1 bonus action to activate both spells at the same time. It’s one or the other. You can command the servant to interact with an object, but the spell effect from dancing light is not an object.
I will say, however, that if you just had the servant carrying something down the hall, to the guards, it would look like an object just floating along, and that would likely get their attention, as long as they noticed it.
Can unseen servant be instructed to move within the humanoid form of dancing lights for one hour, so that a player can move both of them with the same bonus action?
Basically the intended effect is to create a phantom that can hold something and walk down a hallway and distract some guards, without using any spell slots. But it needs to be visible so it actually draws their attention. The caster's plan is to hide in a Minor Illusion faux crate or similar and to direct this unseen servant and dancing lights form to pick up objects and steal them, while also using mage hand to steal other objects in the dark. Basically.
Can this actually work with the rules? Or is it impossible to chain one to the other? I think it might be possible, but am unsure.
The spell you're looking for is faerie fire, not dancing lights
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Edoumiaond Willegume "Eddie" Podslee, Vegetanian scholar (College of Spirits bard) Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric) Peter "the Pied Piper" Hausler, human con artist/remover of vermin (Circle of the Shepherd druid) PIPA - Planar Interception/Protection Aeormaton, warforged bodyguard and ex-wizard hunter (Warrior of the Elements monk/Cartographer artificer) Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
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Can unseen servant be instructed to move within the humanoid form of dancing lights for one hour, so that a player can move both of them with the same bonus action?
Basically the intended effect is to create a phantom that can hold something and walk down a hallway and distract some guards, without using any spell slots. But it needs to be visible so it actually draws their attention. The caster's plan is to hide in a Minor Illusion faux crate or similar and to direct this unseen servant and dancing lights form to pick up objects and steal them, while also using mage hand to steal other objects in the dark. Basically.
Can this actually work with the rules? Or is it impossible to chain one to the other? I think it might be possible, but am unsure.
A quick test to see if something would likely be allowed (regardless of RAW) is if you are trying to use fewer resources "cleverly" to accomplish the same thing as something does by default using more resources. If you are, then expect to be shut down. Players have been trying to insta-kill things with "clever" uses of cantrips for ages. It just doesn't work that way.
Sabin76 gives a good rule of thumb.
I’d add that in this case, from a rules perspective, no, you can’t use 1 bonus action to activate both spells at the same time. It’s one or the other. You can command the servant to interact with an object, but the spell effect from dancing light is not an object.
I will say, however, that if you just had the servant carrying something down the hall, to the guards, it would look like an object just floating along, and that would likely get their attention, as long as they noticed it.
The spell you're looking for is faerie fire, not dancing lights
Active characters:
Edoumiaond Willegume "Eddie" Podslee, Vegetanian scholar (College of Spirits bard)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Peter "the Pied Piper" Hausler, human con artist/remover of vermin (Circle of the Shepherd druid)
PIPA - Planar Interception/Protection Aeormaton, warforged bodyguard and ex-wizard hunter (Warrior of the Elements monk/Cartographer artificer)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)