Afraid not, like sorcerers you have a section of known spells to start, get a few more as the level table determines and cant get more outside of that HOWEVER the flip side is you have them all 'ready to cast' no hard choices about what to prepare. Make your decisions wisely but look up and familiarise yourself with the trading spells out when you level rule for the pair of those classes (its to make a lower level spell made redundant by a higher level one replaceable)
You can if your bard is level ten, and you have this class feature:
Magical Secrets
By 10th level, you have plundered magical knowledge from a wide spectrum of disciplines. Choose two spells from any class, including this one. A spell you choose must be of a level you can cast, as shown on the Bard table, or a cantrip.
The chosen spells count as bard spells for you and are included in the number in the Spells Known column of the Bard table.
You learn two additional spells from any class at 14th level and again at 18th level.
However, since you just get to pick the spells you learn and know as you level up, you don't have to seek out spells and copy them into your spellbook, since you don't have a spellbook. So until level ten, you can only pick spells from the Bard list. Having a spellbook from a defeated wizard doesn't do you anything for learning new spells. Sell and buy yourself some women of negotiable affection and halfling pipeweed and enjoy.
You can also pick up the Ritual Caster feat to make use of captured spell books. But this only allows you to take Ritual spells.
I was going to mention this if no one else did. The ritual book from the ritual caster feat works the same way a wizard spellbook does, including being able to copy spells from scrolls and other wizard books;
However, they must have the ritual tag, they must be on the spell list of whatever class of ritual caster you took, and you can only cast those spells as rituals.
BDaddLy means the feat which gives a ritual book and a few rituals, as well as the ability to copy more ritual spells into it. The Ritual Casting part of the Bard's Spellcasting feature only relates to the bard spells they know as a bard and has nothing to do with learning new spells.
You can also pick up the Ritual Caster feat to make use of captured spell books. But this only allows you to take Ritual spells.
Bards get Ritual Caster as a class feature. No need to take the feat.
That's different. That just means if they learn Bard spells with the Ritual tag, they can cast them as rituals without using a spell slot. They still can't learn new rituals from spellbooks or scrolls they find along their travels. That ability is limited to Wizards(who can also learn non-ritual Wizard spells this way), characters with the Ritual Caster feat(who can only learn ritual spells from the class they choose when taking the feat), and Pact Of The Tome Warlocks with the Book Of Ancient Secrets invocation(who can transcribe ritual spells from ANY class into their book)
Shouldn't a bard (viz a ritual caster, ) be able to ritually cast ritual spells directly from a captured spellbook or scroll? Not as 1 action, bonus or reaction spell. You're following the directions a wizard would follow to cast it as her 10 min ritual casting. Ie not using a spell slot, the magic recipe in it's most basic?
Certain spells have a special tag: ritual. Such a spell can be cast following the normal rules for spellcasting, or the spell can be cast as a ritual. The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes longer to cast than normal. It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level. ..."
You have learned a number of spells that you can cast as rituals. These spells are written in a ritual book, which you must have in hand while casting one of them.
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If you come across a spell in written form, such as a magical spell scroll or a wizard's spellbook, you might be able to add it to your ritual book. The spell must be on the spell list for the class you chose, the spell's level can be no higher than half your level (rounded up), and it must have the ritual tag. ..."
Sorry - dug deeper and saw that as part of the ritual caster feat. As a sorcerer might cast the SAME ritual spell, it is using INT vs CHA so I guess it makes sense they aren't exactly the same ritual. Lol I was hopin"...
Thanks though
Steve
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I'm running a Bard in a ToD set of adventures and our party has recovered spell books from our defeated foes.
Can my character copy Wizard spells/learn spells from a different class?
Afraid not, like sorcerers you have a section of known spells to start, get a few more as the level table determines and cant get more outside of that HOWEVER the flip side is you have them all 'ready to cast' no hard choices about what to prepare. Make your decisions wisely but look up and familiarise yourself with the trading spells out when you level rule for the pair of those classes (its to make a lower level spell made redundant by a higher level one replaceable)
No.
The bard knows a certain number of spells and can't switch them unless it gains a level. It can learn any spell from the bard spell list only.
Magical Secret is the only way to learn spells from other classes' spell lists.
You can if your bard is level ten, and you have this class feature:
Magical Secrets
By 10th level, you have plundered magical knowledge from a wide spectrum of disciplines. Choose two spells from any class, including this one. A spell you choose must be of a level you can cast, as shown on the Bard table, or a cantrip.
The chosen spells count as bard spells for you and are included in the number in the Spells Known column of the Bard table.
You learn two additional spells from any class at 14th level and again at 18th level.
However, since you just get to pick the spells you learn and know as you level up, you don't have to seek out spells and copy them into your spellbook, since you don't have a spellbook. So until level ten, you can only pick spells from the Bard list. Having a spellbook from a defeated wizard doesn't do you anything for learning new spells. Sell and buy yourself some women of negotiable affection and halfling pipeweed and enjoy.
Silly Bard, Spellbooks are for Wizards!
This about sums it up. Thanks everyone, for the sage advise. Learning the rules as i go.
You can also pick up the Ritual Caster feat to make use of captured spell books. But this only allows you to take Ritual spells.
Extended Signature
I was going to mention this if no one else did. The ritual book from the ritual caster feat works the same way a wizard spellbook does, including being able to copy spells from scrolls and other wizard books;
However, they must have the ritual tag, they must be on the spell list of whatever class of ritual caster you took, and you can only cast those spells as rituals.
Bards get Ritual Caster as a class feature. No need to take the feat.
BDaddLy means the feat which gives a ritual book and a few rituals, as well as the ability to copy more ritual spells into it.
The Ritual Casting part of the Bard's Spellcasting feature only relates to the bard spells they know as a bard and has nothing to do with learning new spells.
I am one with the Force. The Force is with me.
That's different. That just means if they learn Bard spells with the Ritual tag, they can cast them as rituals without using a spell slot. They still can't learn new rituals from spellbooks or scrolls they find along their travels. That ability is limited to Wizards(who can also learn non-ritual Wizard spells this way), characters with the Ritual Caster feat(who can only learn ritual spells from the class they choose when taking the feat), and Pact Of The Tome Warlocks with the Book Of Ancient Secrets invocation(who can transcribe ritual spells from ANY class into their book)
Shouldn't a bard (viz a ritual caster, ) be able to ritually cast ritual spells directly from a captured spellbook or scroll? Not as 1 action, bonus or reaction spell. You're following the directions a wizard would follow to cast it as her 10 min ritual casting. Ie not using a spell slot, the magic recipe in it's most basic?
Sorry, I didnt follow that. Here's the features in question (emphasis mine)
"Ritual Casting
You can cast any bard spell you know as a ritual if that spell has the ritual tag."
https://www.dndbeyond.com/compendium/rules/basic-rules/classes#Bard
"Rituals
Certain spells have a special tag: ritual. Such a spell can be cast following the normal rules for spellcasting, or the spell can be cast as a ritual. The ritual version of a spell takes 10 minutes longer to cast than normal. It also doesn't expend a spell slot, which means the ritual version of a spell can't be cast at a higher level. ..."
https://www.dndbeyond.com/compendium/rules/basic-rules/spellcasting#Rituals
"Ritual Caster
Player's Handbook ...
You have learned a number of spells that you can cast as rituals. These spells are written in a ritual book, which you must have in hand while casting one of them.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/compendium/rules/phb/customization-options#Feats
Extended Signature
Thanks!
Sorry - dug deeper and saw that as part of the ritual caster feat. As a sorcerer might cast the SAME ritual spell, it is using INT vs CHA so I guess it makes sense they aren't exactly the same ritual. Lol I was hopin"...
Thanks though
Steve