If an Uthgardt barbarian, who is a werewolf has its maximum hit points reduced to 0 by a vampire, can he become a werewolf/vampire hybrid? What would the werewolf lose or inherit statistically?
The curse of lycanthropy only affects humanoids. Vampires are undead, and so cannot become lycanthropes. Also, the curse of lycanthropy is typically "cured" upon the death of the one who suffers from it, and becoming a vampire requires one to die as part of the process (either being killed by a vampire drinking your blood or accepting the Dark Gift from Curse of Strahd and then being killed by someone who hates you).
There's no official rules for a vampire/werewolf hybrid, so if that's something you're interested in I'd suggest talking to your DM and see what they say. Even if the game you are currently playing doesn't have that option, maybe that's a one shot or a separate campaign you can get into!
Rule wise the answer is no. Once the werewolf’s hit points are reduced to 0 and they are buried they raise as a vampire spawn and now use those monster stats and are undead. But it’s your game and “rule of cool” wins out in my books. Discovering that your character is unique and able to be cursed with both could be an amazing story arc that could span the entire campaign. Perhaps conventional cures no longer work on the hybrid curses and you now need to traverse the world looking for an obscure and unique text from a mad sage detailing how this was cured a thousand years ago. Maybe when the hybrid transforms against their will, they now only hunt vampires and remember nothing of it in the morning. Maybe the curses cancel each other out, lying dormant until triggered individually and temporarily by a outside stimulus like a blue moon or by being covered in a humanoids blood. Or perhaps the character is only a carrier of the two curses and while unaffected by either they are searching for a cure so that they never spread the curses to others and start the were-vampire apocalypse.
Remember, sometimes a “no” from the rules is also an opportunity to be creative and make something new. Work with your DM if it’s something you want to play.
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Thanks all. I am the DM of my campaign and am having the chieftain of an Uthgardt Grey Wolf tribe be turned into a vampire spawn by a vampire. I thank all of you for providing options.
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First, sage advice is nothing more than a house rule unless it is in SAC.
Second, the SA says that they become vampires but are no longer werewolves, which has already been said multiple times and does not add any new information to this year old thread...
I came to this because I was wondering about my wolf shifter character with levels in ranger, barbarian and rogue. I wouldn't WANT to make her into a vampire, but if she DID become a vampire, I imagine a shifter doesn't stop being a shifter when they become a vampire since it's their race. I was actually thinking that the ability to turn into wolves is also common in vampires, so it would just be a darker, thirstier wolf, or maybe go ham and be a bat-wolf creature. She's already a hunter by race, trade, and subclass.
I came to this because I was wondering about my wolf shifter character with levels in ranger, barbarian and rogue. I wouldn't WANT to make her into a vampire, but if she DID become a vampire, I imagine a shifter doesn't stop being a shifter when they become a vampire since it's their race. I was actually thinking that the ability to turn into wolves is also common in vampires, so it would just be a darker, thirstier wolf, or maybe go ham and be a bat-wolf creature. She's already a hunter by race, trade, and subclass.
Generally speaking, becoming a vampire turns you into an NPC, so your DM will just decide the extent to which vampirism removes racials.
If you are the DM, or talk with the DM, you could probably figure somthing out. Originaly you are cured of lycanthropy upon death, and only humanoids are able to be cursed with it, but speak with the Dm/decide for you're world that you maby remove the death-thing and make shure you become werewolf in life, and then you are a vampire werewolf. This will be homebrew thou, so yeah...
Yes. It's simple rules math. No where is it stated becoming a vampire "cures" any other curses. Also there are specific ways to cure lycanthrope moreover a natuaral lycanthrope can specifically only be cured by a successful casting of the wish spell period so death would not "cure" a natuaral lycanthrope they'd just be a dead werewolf. There are many lower level resurection style spells than 9th level like wish it would clearly defeat the purpose to make it so easy for a natuaral lycanthrope to just find a low level cleric shove a diamond in their hand say bring me back & slit their own throat. Same for becoming a vampire to cure lycanthrope then having the third level spell remove curse cast on them or once again just dying as a vampire & being brought back by a lower level resurection spell than 9th like wish which would work if becoming a vampire cures lycanthrope. Lycantrhopes are humanoid. Lycanthrope only cares that you are humanoid at the time of affliction or birth it isn't constantly checking. On a technical basis rote rules as written yes a lycanthrope can become a vampire.
If an Uthgardt barbarian, who is a werewolf has its maximum hit points reduced to 0 by a vampire, can he become a werewolf/vampire hybrid? What would the werewolf lose or inherit statistically?
If they become a vampire spawn, they would probably lose the curses they had in life.
Thank you, so there is no chance of an Underworld like vampire/werewolf hybrid?
The curse of lycanthropy only affects humanoids. Vampires are undead, and so cannot become lycanthropes. Also, the curse of lycanthropy is typically "cured" upon the death of the one who suffers from it, and becoming a vampire requires one to die as part of the process (either being killed by a vampire drinking your blood or accepting the Dark Gift from Curse of Strahd and then being killed by someone who hates you).
So no.
There's no official rules for a vampire/werewolf hybrid, so if that's something you're interested in I'd suggest talking to your DM and see what they say. Even if the game you are currently playing doesn't have that option, maybe that's a one shot or a separate campaign you can get into!
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Rule wise the answer is no. Once the werewolf’s hit points are reduced to 0 and they are buried they raise as a vampire spawn and now use those monster stats and are undead. But it’s your game and “rule of cool” wins out in my books. Discovering that your character is unique and able to be cursed with both could be an amazing story arc that could span the entire campaign. Perhaps conventional cures no longer work on the hybrid curses and you now need to traverse the world looking for an obscure and unique text from a mad sage detailing how this was cured a thousand years ago. Maybe when the hybrid transforms against their will, they now only hunt vampires and remember nothing of it in the morning. Maybe the curses cancel each other out, lying dormant until triggered individually and temporarily by a outside stimulus like a blue moon or by being covered in a humanoids blood. Or perhaps the character is only a carrier of the two curses and while unaffected by either they are searching for a cure so that they never spread the curses to others and start the were-vampire apocalypse.
Remember, sometimes a “no” from the rules is also an opportunity to be creative and make something new. Work with your DM if it’s something you want to play.
Check out my Disabled & Dragons Youtube Channel for 5e Monster and Player Tactics. Helping the Disabled Community and Players and DM’s (both new and experienced) get into D&D. Plus there is a talking Dragon named Quill.
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Thanks all. I am the DM of my campaign and am having the chieftain of an Uthgardt Grey Wolf tribe be turned into a vampire spawn by a vampire. I thank all of you for providing options.
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First, sage advice is nothing more than a house rule unless it is in SAC.
Second, the SA says that they become vampires but are no longer werewolves, which has already been said multiple times and does not add any new information to this year old thread...
I came to this because I was wondering about my wolf shifter character with levels in ranger, barbarian and rogue. I wouldn't WANT to make her into a vampire, but if she DID become a vampire, I imagine a shifter doesn't stop being a shifter when they become a vampire since it's their race. I was actually thinking that the ability to turn into wolves is also common in vampires, so it would just be a darker, thirstier wolf, or maybe go ham and be a bat-wolf creature. She's already a hunter by race, trade, and subclass.
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Generally speaking, becoming a vampire turns you into an NPC, so your DM will just decide the extent to which vampirism removes racials.
If you are the DM, or talk with the DM, you could probably figure somthing out. Originaly you are cured of lycanthropy upon death, and only humanoids are able to be cursed with it, but speak with the Dm/decide for you're world that you maby remove the death-thing and make shure you become werewolf in life, and then you are a vampire werewolf. This will be homebrew thou, so yeah...
https://www.sageadvice.eu/can-a-werewolf-become-a-vampire/
Pick the Vampire race from the Magic the Gathering books.
Then pick Bloodhunter class, subclass Lycan from the Critical Role books.
By the books it's technically OK to do.
Now whether or not your DM let's u make this build is another thing entirely, but it's by the books, I'd let you run it lol
Yes. It's simple rules math. No where is it stated becoming a vampire "cures" any other curses. Also there are specific ways to cure lycanthrope moreover a natuaral lycanthrope can specifically only be cured by a successful casting of the wish spell period so death would not "cure" a natuaral lycanthrope they'd just be a dead werewolf. There are many lower level resurection style spells than 9th level like wish it would clearly defeat the purpose to make it so easy for a natuaral lycanthrope to just find a low level cleric shove a diamond in their hand say bring me back & slit their own throat. Same for becoming a vampire to cure lycanthrope then having the third level spell remove curse cast on them or once again just dying as a vampire & being brought back by a lower level resurection spell than 9th like wish which would work if becoming a vampire cures lycanthrope. Lycantrhopes are humanoid. Lycanthrope only cares that you are humanoid at the time of affliction or birth it isn't constantly checking. On a technical basis rote rules as written yes a lycanthrope can become a vampire.