I have my party coming up against an Aboleth in his lair soon and I wanted to go over one more thing before I do.
The Aboleth has a lair action which lets an aboleth cast phantasmal force on someone. Tough it doesnt say that it requires an intelligence save. I have seen people advise to give it a save DC of 16 using the aboleth's intelligence or Charisma.
But I would want to suggest the idea of it nog having a save at all.
This lair action is one that, if concentration isn't broken or the save isn's made, will not end. Taking away any of the other lair actions the aboleth has. A creature can also, once effected, choose to try a save or have a round as normal, not offering a save at the end of their turn or anything.
I personally think, the phantasmal force can be excused as somehow the physionic powers that the aboleth has innately and has been effecting the surrounding area with taking effect on creatures the aboleth chooses.
Phantasmal Force requires a saving throw. Why would the lair action waste words on saying something that the spell description already says? Further, the lair action explicitly says "If a target succeeds on the saving throw..." There's no room to try and interpret this as not calling for a save.
Dear everyone,
I have my party coming up against an Aboleth in his lair soon and I wanted to go over one more thing before I do.
The Aboleth has a lair action which lets an aboleth cast phantasmal force on someone. Tough it doesnt say that it requires an intelligence save.
I have seen people advise to give it a save DC of 16 using the aboleth's intelligence or Charisma.
But I would want to suggest the idea of it nog having a save at all.
This lair action is one that, if concentration isn't broken or the save isn's made, will not end. Taking away any of the other lair actions the aboleth has. A creature can also, once effected, choose to try a save or have a round as normal, not offering a save at the end of their turn or anything.
I personally think, the phantasmal force can be excused as somehow the physionic powers that the aboleth has innately and has been effecting the surrounding area with taking effect on creatures the aboleth chooses.
Any thoughts?
Phantasmal Force requires a saving throw. Why would the lair action waste words on saying something that the spell description already says? Further, the lair action explicitly says "If a target succeeds on the saving throw..." There's no room to try and interpret this as not calling for a save.
It also just deals 1D6 psychic damage for a 2nd level spell. Kind of indicating that this spell isn't ment for straight damage.
The aboleth's other saves are all DC14, probably what it should be.