My friend says if you're immune to piercing damage then it's going to act like I higher resistance
But I think if you're immune to piercing damage then you're immune to it
If you're immune, you take no damage from it. Period. End of story.
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This is how he says immunity works A second level of resistance if you will still very much capable of damaging just hard and more resistance
RAW.
Immunity means that you take NO damage from the attack.
Examples:
Immune to fire damage - no damage from fire
Immune to piercing damage - no damage from piercing whether magical or not
Immune to Slashing, bludgeoning and piercing from non-magical weapons - mundane weapons do NO damage, magical weapons are unaffected.
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In addition, Resistance does NOT stack. If you are resistant to fire damage because you are a tiefling then you take 1/2 damage from fire with fractions rounded down. If someone casts a spell on you (the tiefling who already has fire resistance) or you swallow a fire resistance potion which grants fire resistance ... it does NOTHING. Resistance to the same type of damage from different sources does NOT stack. There are no different levels of resistance. There is resistance or there isn't.
"Multiple instances of resistance or vulnerability that affect the same damage type count as only one instance." PHB 197. There are no extra levels of resistance.
There aren't many things immune to stuff. Loads are resistant.
There are only 2 things in the MM that are immune to slashing, magical or not. Nothing is immune to piercing or bludgeoning in the MM. (Supposedly, VGtM and MToF have nothing immune to piercing, slashing, or bludgeoning. I don't have those books so I wouldn't know.)
Unless it says that it ignores immunity (and I know of nothing that does), it doesn't bypass (or reduce) immunity. Ignoring resistance isn't ignoring immunity.
Why black pudding and ochre jelly are immune to all slashing but not piercing is beyond me, but there it is.
If something has a magical nature that makes it immune mundane physical attacks, then a magical weapon is required.
Also, 5e is a firm believer that you don't fight fire with fire. If it's immune to fire, it's immune to fire likely because it lives in fire or is mostly made of fire.
Also 5e seems to think that bloodflow or similar nutrient distribution is essential to poison damage as well as granting immunity creatures living with poison or consisting of poison. Poison is the worst offensive damage type to have against monsters. Nearly 200 immune across the three main monster guides.
(Note: The numbers were per-entry, not per-type. The different stages of each dragon were considered independently rather than collectively as one monster. Still, poison is rather pointless a lot of the time unless you're dealing with only mundane, living creatures. There are a lot more encounters with mundane things in the material plane, but beyond that, forget it. The non-mundane things are often more dangerous.)
If a weapon ignores resistance, there's a good chance it is considered a magical weapon attack, too. (Not always, though.) If so, there are a lot of immunities that don't apply to magical weapon attacks. (Several allowing non-magical as well as a specific material like iron, adamantine, or silver.) Get yourself a magic damage weapon (but don't bother with innate poison damage on weapons if you're planning on dealing with magical beings).
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How does immunity work in 5e.
My friend says if you're immune to piercing damage then it's going to act like I higher resistance
But I think if you're immune to piercing damage then you take no damage
If you're immune, you take no damage from it. Period. End of story.
Formerly Devan Avalon.
Trying to get your physical content on Beyond is like going to Microsoft and saying "I have a physical Playstation disk, give me a digital Xbox version!"
What exactly does your friend mean by “higher resistance”? In a sense, they’re right. Rather than being reduced by 50%, the damage is reduced by 100%.
At any rate, DevanAvalon answers your question. Maybe have your friend look up what “immunity” means in a dictionary.
I don't understand your friends position here. Unless they're suggesting that they view the amount of damage you take as a scale?
I can see an argument for house ruling that Absorption > Immunity > Resistance > Normal > Vulnerable is a scale that abilities move you up and down.
RAW: If you are a immune to a damage type, you take no damage from it.
Possible house rule: If you are immune to damage and you take an attack that 'ignores resistance' it might pull the immunity down to Resistance.
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This is how he says immunity works A second level of resistance if you will still very much capable of damaging just hard and more resistance
RAW.
Immunity means that you take NO damage from the attack.
Examples:
Immune to fire damage - no damage from fire
Immune to piercing damage - no damage from piercing whether magical or not
Immune to Slashing, bludgeoning and piercing from non-magical weapons - mundane weapons do NO damage, magical weapons are unaffected.
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In addition, Resistance does NOT stack. If you are resistant to fire damage because you are a tiefling then you take 1/2 damage from fire with fractions rounded down. If someone casts a spell on you (the tiefling who already has fire resistance) or you swallow a fire resistance potion which grants fire resistance ... it does NOTHING. Resistance to the same type of damage from different sources does NOT stack. There are no different levels of resistance. There is resistance or there isn't.
"Multiple instances of resistance or vulnerability that affect the same damage type count as only one instance." PHB 197. There are no extra levels of resistance.
As everyone else has said, your friend is wrong. Resistance means half damage. Vulnerability means double damage. Immunity means no damage.
There aren't many things immune to stuff. Loads are resistant.
There are only 2 things in the MM that are immune to slashing, magical or not. Nothing is immune to piercing or bludgeoning in the MM. (Supposedly, VGtM and MToF have nothing immune to piercing, slashing, or bludgeoning. I don't have those books so I wouldn't know.)
Unless it says that it ignores immunity (and I know of nothing that does), it doesn't bypass (or reduce) immunity. Ignoring resistance isn't ignoring immunity.
Why black pudding and ochre jelly are immune to all slashing but not piercing is beyond me, but there it is.
If something has a magical nature that makes it immune mundane physical attacks, then a magical weapon is required.
Also, 5e is a firm believer that you don't fight fire with fire. If it's immune to fire, it's immune to fire likely because it lives in fire or is mostly made of fire.
Also 5e seems to think that bloodflow or similar nutrient distribution is essential to poison damage as well as granting immunity creatures living with poison or consisting of poison. Poison is the worst offensive damage type to have against monsters. Nearly 200 immune across the three main monster guides.
(Note: The numbers were per-entry, not per-type. The different stages of each dragon were considered independently rather than collectively as one monster. Still, poison is rather pointless a lot of the time unless you're dealing with only mundane, living creatures. There are a lot more encounters with mundane things in the material plane, but beyond that, forget it. The non-mundane things are often more dangerous.)
If a weapon ignores resistance, there's a good chance it is considered a magical weapon attack, too. (Not always, though.) If so, there are a lot of immunities that don't apply to magical weapon attacks. (Several allowing non-magical as well as a specific material like iron, adamantine, or silver.) Get yourself a magic damage weapon (but don't bother with innate poison damage on weapons if you're planning on dealing with magical beings).
Human. Male. Possibly. Don't be a divider.
My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
Ah, but what if damage from the source "cannot be reduced in any way"? Not so simple.
Still simple. Specific beats general. The damage can't be reduced or prevented in any way, so the damage isn't reduced or prevented by immunity.