When you cast a spell with a range of touch, one of the familiars conjured by this spell can deliver the (i.e. your) spell, as normal (i.e. with its normal effects?).
Now, the wording of this confuses me a bit. If my familiar delivers my spell and the target dies, does it trigger my Grim Harvest?
Once per turn when you (i.e. not a summoned creature, see earlier Sage Advice) kill one or more creatures with a spell of 1st level or higher, you regain hit points equal to twice the spell’s level, or three times its level if the spell belongs to the School of Necromancy.
It sounds as if the familiar kills the target, so Grim Harvest is not triggered. On the other hand, the spell that you cast (i.e. the spell), is delivered by the familiar, and it is the spell that kills the target, not the "delivery". The familiar uses its reaction, but does so immediately which kills the target, which sounds as if the familiar is just a "tool" (i.e. like a flying wand). If you read it like that it seems it would trigger Grim Harvest. So who actually does the killing part? Must be a Sage Advice on this somewhere right? Can't seem to find one specific for Familiars.
For Animate Dead it makes sense it does not trigger, because the undead will attack itself, but a familiar can't even attack. It can only act as a messenger of an attack (i.e. touch spell) you make.
I don't know if you've already got an answer on this but from the first line of the feature, I'd say it does:
Grim Harvest
At 2nd level, you gain the ability to reap life energy from creatures you kill with your spells. Once per turn when you kill one or more creatures with a spell of 1st level or higher, you regain hit points equal to twice the spell’s level, or three times its level if the spell belongs to the School of Necromancy. You don’t gain this benefit for killing constructs or undead.
The ability of Familiars is to Deliver your spells, they do not take possession of it, merely become a channel you can cast through:
When you cast a spell with a range of touch, one of the familiars conjured by this spell can deliver the spell, as normal.
The spell works as normal, with you as the spellcaster, if the creature dies, you have killed it with your spell. It is cast as if you are touching the creature.
Find Familiar summons a spirit that assumes a physical animal form of your choice. When the animal form's HP drop to 0 the physical form disappears, any left over damage is lost and no harm is done to the spirit. When you cast the spell again the spirit reappears in the physical form of your choice. At no point is the familiar described as having been killed.
Flock of Familiars says:
Now, the wording of this confuses me a bit. If my familiar delivers my spell and the target dies, does it trigger my Grim Harvest?
It sounds as if the familiar kills the target, so Grim Harvest is not triggered. On the other hand, the spell that you cast (i.e. the spell), is delivered by the familiar, and it is the spell that kills the target, not the "delivery". The familiar uses its reaction, but does so immediately which kills the target, which sounds as if the familiar is just a "tool" (i.e. like a flying wand). If you read it like that it seems it would trigger Grim Harvest. So who actually does the killing part? Must be a Sage Advice on this somewhere right? Can't seem to find one specific for Familiars.
For Animate Dead it makes sense it does not trigger, because the undead will attack itself, but a familiar can't even attack. It can only act as a messenger of an attack (i.e. touch spell) you make.
I don't know if you've already got an answer on this but from the first line of the feature, I'd say it does:
The ability of Familiars is to Deliver your spells, they do not take possession of it, merely become a channel you can cast through:
The spell works as normal, with you as the spellcaster, if the creature dies, you have killed it with your spell. It is cast as if you are touching the creature.
I did not yet. Thanks, it sounds like it should work indeed!
Wait ... can you grim harvest your own familiar?
The short answer is no.
Find Familiar summons a spirit that assumes a physical animal form of your choice. When the animal form's HP drop to 0 the physical form disappears, any left over damage is lost and no harm is done to the spirit. When you cast the spell again the spirit reappears in the physical form of your choice. At no point is the familiar described as having been killed.
Step 1: find and contain an ants nest
Step 2: Hmm. I'm low on health *casts necromancy spell on some ants* Mmmmm thats better
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And here I thought this was going to be someone killing their Familiars to trigger grim harvest