21 is a really good DC, and most foes will not have a modifier on their Con Save to pass that better than half the time, so you should definitely be able to take a foe out of the fight for a while, especially if you have Silvery Barbs to halve their chance of success on each save, or a feature that gives them disadvantage on their saving throws against your spells.
Even against a boss with Legendary Saves, Burning through their saves to avoid petrification is still a really good thing for your party, because those saves don't come back.
I have a max 20 just from normal asis (Level 12 point buy etc) A homebrew thingy that pushes my charisma to 22, i have a +2 pact rod, and now 24 charisma from tome of influence, so good old 21 dc. Even without homebrew that makes it 20. My max will max it out at 24 dc
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"Anyone can smith at the cosmic anvil, yet only I can forge a weapon as good as thee."
Small question, would you consider this spell viable if my spell save is 21?
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21 is a really good DC, and most foes will not have a modifier on their Con Save to pass that better than half the time, so you should definitely be able to take a foe out of the fight for a while, especially if you have Silvery Barbs to halve their chance of success on each save, or a feature that gives them disadvantage on their saving throws against your spells.
Even against a boss with Legendary Saves, Burning through their saves to avoid petrification is still a really good thing for your party, because those saves don't come back.
How did you get your DC to 21?
I have a max 20 just from normal asis (Level 12 point buy etc) A homebrew thingy that pushes my charisma to 22, i have a +2 pact rod, and now 24 charisma from tome of influence, so good old 21 dc. Even without homebrew that makes it 20. My max will max it out at 24 dc
"Anyone can smith at the cosmic anvil, yet only I can forge a weapon as good as thee."
My Homebrew Please click it, they have my family.
Its 8 + prof + charisma, so 8 + 4 + 7 + 2 (Rod)
"Anyone can smith at the cosmic anvil, yet only I can forge a weapon as good as thee."
My Homebrew Please click it, they have my family.