Unless I am missing something the Cantrip with the highest theoretical damage is Sorcerous Burst. It would be almost mathematically impossible (always rolling 8)but with a level 1 soc with chr 16 can cap out at 32 damage (1x8+3x8 burst). At level 20 chrs 20 it would be 72 damage (4x8+5x8 bust). (77 on dragon sor.)
Eldritch Blast at 20 chr 20 would do 60 (4x(10+5)).
Yes EB will do more on normaly (42 vs Sorcerouse burst 18). Can any one top Sorcerous Burst with a cantrip and no other spells only abilities.
P.S. Crit on all would do 104 (8x8+5x8) for SB and 100 (8x10+4x5) EB.
You can get Sorcerous Burst higher than 72 if you're a Warlock who has access to it via Pact of the Tome and takes Agonizing Blast on it, which would add your Charisma modifier to every single damage roll from it.
Edit: Now that I think about this some more, I'm not sure this actually works since one could argue that's still all one damage roll. It'd probably depend on the DM.
It should also be noted that the actual cap on ability scores is 30 (i.e., a +10 modifier) and there are various ways to get your Charisma that high if you're willing to allow the use of multiple epic boon feats, magic items, etc.
You can get Sorcerous Burst higher than 72 if you're a Warlock who has access to it via Pact of the Tome and takes Agonizing Blast on it, which would add your Charisma modifier to every single damage roll from it.
It should also be noted that the actual cap on ability scores is 30 (i.e., a +10 modifier) and there are various ways to get your Charisma that high if you're willing to allow the use of multiple epic boon feats, magic items, etc.
Agonizing Blast would add your Chr 1 more time as it is one blast and the Dragon subclass would also add Chr so with a 20 chr it is up to 82. can any other Cantrip come close besides EB?
I haven't done an exhaustive analysis, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no, simply because Eldritch Blast is (as far as I know) the only cantrip that allows you to make multiple damage rolls with a single casting of the spell. Because that means you can add the Charisma modifier more than once via Agonizing Blast, it's going to outshine anything with a single damage roll.
Eldritch Blast is the moat reliable high damage cantrip.
Sorcerer Burst could concievable do more damage if you just keep getting lucky and keep rolling 8's. The only mechanic i know if that could help with that is Heroic Inspiration which allows you to reroll any single die roll.
Eldritch Blast is the moat reliable high damage cantrip.
Sorcerer Burst could concievable do more damage if you just keep getting lucky and keep rolling 8's. The only mechanic i know if that could help with that is Heroic Inspiration which allows you to reroll any single die roll.
Also Soc meta magic can also let you reroll the damage.
Yes Eldritch Blast I feel is the better spell normaly. This only came up as a friend was talking down on me for taking Sorcerer Burst instead of fire bolt.
At first I was saying Sorcerer Burst is better becouse of changing the damage type and he was arguing that Fire bolt is better as it does more damage. This was doing back and forth till I rolled 20 damage with it at level 1 (I rolled 8,8,4). This made me think what are the highest ones max even if never likly to do it. Acid splash can get up to 96 over 4 targets (4d6x4) at 17 but only 24 per person. ( 20chr Dragon soc with anganizing balst gets it to 34 per person and 136 if you hit 4).
Unless I am missing something the Cantrip with the highest theoretical damage is Sorcerous Burst. It would be almost mathematically impossible (always rolling 8)but with a level 1 soc with chr 16 can cap out at 32 damage (1x8+3x8 burst). At level 20 chrs 20 it would be 72 damage (4x8+5x8 bust). (77 on dragon sor.)
Eldritch Blast at 20 chr 20 would do 60 (4x(10+5)).
Yes EB will do more on normaly (42 vs Sorcerouse burst 18). Can any one top Sorcerous Burst with a cantrip and no other spells only abilities.
P.S. Crit on all would do 104 (8x8+5x8) for SB and 100 (8x10+4x5) EB.
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You can get Sorcerous Burst higher than 72 if you're a Warlock who has access to it via Pact of the Tome and takes Agonizing Blast on it, which would add your Charisma modifier to every single damage roll from it.Edit: Now that I think about this some more, I'm not sure this actually works since one could argue that's still all one damage roll. It'd probably depend on the DM.
It should also be noted that the actual cap on ability scores is 30 (i.e., a +10 modifier) and there are various ways to get your Charisma that high if you're willing to allow the use of multiple epic boon feats, magic items, etc.
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Agonizing Blast would add your Chr 1 more time as it is one blast and the Dragon subclass would also add Chr so with a 20 chr it is up to 82. can any other Cantrip come close besides EB?
I spell Goodly.
I haven't done an exhaustive analysis, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no, simply because Eldritch Blast is (as far as I know) the only cantrip that allows you to make multiple damage rolls with a single casting of the spell. Because that means you can add the Charisma modifier more than once via Agonizing Blast, it's going to outshine anything with a single damage roll.
pronouns: he/she/they
Eldritch Blast is the moat reliable high damage cantrip.
Sorcerer Burst could concievable do more damage if you just keep getting lucky and keep rolling 8's. The only mechanic i know if that could help with that is Heroic Inspiration which allows you to reroll any single die roll.
Also Soc meta magic can also let you reroll the damage.
Yes Eldritch Blast I feel is the better spell normaly. This only came up as a friend was talking down on me for taking Sorcerer Burst instead of fire bolt.
At first I was saying Sorcerer Burst is better becouse of changing the damage type and he was arguing that Fire bolt is better as it does more damage. This was doing back and forth till I rolled 20 damage with it at level 1 (I rolled 8,8,4). This made me think what are the highest ones max even if never likly to do it. Acid splash can get up to 96 over 4 targets (4d6x4) at 17 but only 24 per person. ( 20chr Dragon soc with anganizing balst gets it to 34 per person and 136 if you hit 4).
I spell Goodly.