I have just recently reached level 7 and chose to learn polymorph as a sorcerer. I wanted to know what monsters are the best to transform to in this level. Can I transform into any creature I choose at my level? What tips could you give me to use this spell.
Whoa! Hold on! There are some things to remember about this spell. For one, it REPLACES your character's (or the target's) INT WIS and possibly even CHA scores. This is a bad spell to cast on yourself. Very Bad. This is not a 'Wildshape'-like spell you cast on yourself.
Instead, it is a very potent crowd control spell to cast on your foes. In my game FOREX, the Drow Cleric of Vhaerun (Trickery Domain) used it to Polymorph his own brother into a tiny lizard for daring to steal his favored slave and then attack him. Since it is a WIS save, all those pesky Barbarians/Fighters etc; just fall down. You don't transform your enemies into potent forms, you zap them into helpless ones. Of course, since it is a Concentration spell, you have to maintain it, so caveat emptor there.
Check with your DM to see what he allows, some will allow you to only change into beasts that you have encountered before
Note that the Druid's Wildshape ability says: "you can use your action to magically assume the shape of a beast that you have seen before", while Polymorph does not state this requirement.
Can I transform into any creature I choose at my level?
As mentioned: you can transform in "Beasts" only. Also, it is dependent on the target's level (or CR)... so Giant Ape is currently best for yourself, but if you have an 8th level party member, you can turn them into a T-Rex.
Check with your DM to see what he allows, some will allow you to only change into beasts that you have encountered before
Note that the Druid's Wildshape ability says: "you can use your action to magically assume the shape of a beast that you have seen before", while Polymorph does not state this requirement.
Step 1: Polymorph your enemy into a flea. A harmless little flea. Step 2: Put that flea in a box. Step 3: Put that box inside of another box. Step 4: Mail that box to yourself, and when it arrives... Step 5: SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH!!!>:D
Outside of princely interactions, it seems a little useless, so something of a situational spell =)
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I have a wildmagic sorcerer I was considering this same thing for. When the best course of action is to charge in and hit things hard, I was considering either a Mammoth or a Giant Ape. The reason for considering the Mammoth is the high Con modifier, making it far less likely that you drop the spell when you are hit!
As I'm also an Autognome Wildmagic sorcerer, I have a lot of ways to influence the checks inherently, so I am confident I can spend a full combat as a giant space-ape or space-mammoth (spelljammer!).
We dealt with a hostage situation by turning the boss guy into a giant tortoise because it's slow and quite harmless and has a ton of HP so his allies couldn't break the spell with damage. So we had time to kill his minions and save the hostage.
Sorcerer. Twinned polymorph is really good. And go with tortoises! 😄
Polymorph is one of my favorite spells. One of the reasons is that the target cannot repeat the save. It's a save or lose kinda spell.
That is super rare and very very good. As long as you can maintain con and the target's polymorphed hp isn't reduced to 0, it cannot get out of the new shape.
This offers amazing strategic value. You can completely remove an enemy from the battle. Maybe a nasty caster, a hard hitter or even a boss that doesn't have legendary resi left.
It's great in lots of escape situations. Turn the toughest enemy into a giant tortoise and it cannot keep up with you.
Someone is harrassing you? Trying to pick a fight? Polymorph and walk away. An assassin tries to kill you? Polymorph and walk away. In one hour you'll be far away. Or polymorph and deliver them to prison.
If you are a sorcerer, you can freakin twin this. TWO enemies removed from the fight. That is amazingly strong.
Outside of princely interactions, it seems a little useless, so something of a situational spell =)
1) Turn self into talking frog
2) Claim to be a prince
Step 3: Realize that it's kinda hard to talk, when you don't have the right vocal chords. Step 4: Hire a ventriloquist.
Re 3: I had anticipated that question, thus specified a talking frog. If that cannot be achieved directly through the transformation then having some pre-prepared magic item as step 0 would cover it, but there even without that, making your claims to a druid or anyone else able to Speak with Animals or otherwise get around language barriers.
This is a magical setting. 'Having the right vocal chords' does not stop any other creature capable of communication.
To me it seems like many people take quite a bit of liberties with the part where you keep your alignment and personality. 😯
I've always considered Polymorph a 99% offensive spell with the exception of turning a friend into a mouse to smuggle them someplace.
But this is a matter of interpretation of the spell and ultimately up to the DM.
The way I see it:
If you turned yourself into an intelligent beast like Giant Eagle, then you would be able to follow and make plans and smart decisions. But if you turned yourself into a frog, you would have animal intelligence and be very instinct driven and not self-aware by nature. You wouldn't even understand that you are under a spell.
You would however probably be gentle and calm if that's in your personality.
The spell doesn't specify that you need to have seen the type of beast, but I'd say that it needs to exist and you must have a pretty good knowledge about it if you haven't seen it. So you can't make up a new intelligent frog if they don't exist.
But what if someone told you. Say the party rogue - or bard! - told you about the intelligent talking frogs of Klatch?
Half proficiency + an ability you don't need doesn't amount to much, so even with jack of all trades, the bard is a wonderful source for convincing misinformation.
So if you've heard of the wondrous intelligent talking frogs of Klatch - but no such thing actually exists - then can you polymorph into one?
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I have just recently reached level 7 and chose to learn polymorph as a sorcerer. I wanted to know what monsters are the best to transform to in this level. Can I transform into any creature I choose at my level? What tips could you give me to use this spell.
Whoa! Hold on! There are some things to remember about this spell. For one, it REPLACES your character's (or the target's) INT WIS and possibly even CHA scores. This is a bad spell to cast on yourself. Very Bad. This is not a 'Wildshape'-like spell you cast on yourself.
Instead, it is a very potent crowd control spell to cast on your foes. In my game FOREX, the Drow Cleric of Vhaerun (Trickery Domain) used it to Polymorph his own brother into a tiny lizard for daring to steal his favored slave and then attack him. Since it is a WIS save, all those pesky Barbarians/Fighters etc; just fall down. You don't transform your enemies into potent forms, you zap them into helpless ones. Of course, since it is a Concentration spell, you have to maintain it, so caveat emptor there.
Check with your DM whether you can polymorph into beasts that your PC probably never saw before.
Whether or not you can use some of the more exotic beasts depends on how the DM rules that aspect of the Polymorph discussion.
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Why talk about polymorph when there is true polymorph go tarasque
But if you haven't seen it before, how could you know to transform into it?
King Kong rules the general battle, but you should also consider a snail for your enemies or a giant shark in water.
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You need to be a level 30 character to be able to polymorph into a tarrasque. That's not achievable by any method
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Note the beasts requirement
Step 1: Polymorph your enemy into a flea. A harmless little flea.
Step 2: Put that flea in a box.
Step 3: Put that box inside of another box.
Step 4: Mail that box to yourself, and when it arrives...
Step 5: SMASH IT WITH A HAMMAH!!! >:D
How to polymorph:
Turn prince into frog.
Outside of princely interactions, it seems a little useless, so something of a situational spell =)
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I have a wildmagic sorcerer I was considering this same thing for. When the best course of action is to charge in and hit things hard, I was considering either a Mammoth or a Giant Ape. The reason for considering the Mammoth is the high Con modifier, making it far less likely that you drop the spell when you are hit!
As I'm also an Autognome Wildmagic sorcerer, I have a lot of ways to influence the checks inherently, so I am confident I can spend a full combat as a giant space-ape or space-mammoth (spelljammer!).
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We dealt with a hostage situation by turning the boss guy into a giant tortoise because it's slow and quite harmless and has a ton of HP so his allies couldn't break the spell with damage. So we had time to kill his minions and save the hostage.
Sorcerer. Twinned polymorph is really good. And go with tortoises! 😄
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Step 3: Realize that it's kinda hard to talk, when you don't have the right vocal chords.
Step 4: Hire a ventriloquist.
Polymorph is one of my favorite spells. One of the reasons is that the target cannot repeat the save. It's a save or lose kinda spell.
That is super rare and very very good. As long as you can maintain con and the target's polymorphed hp isn't reduced to 0, it cannot get out of the new shape.
This offers amazing strategic value. You can completely remove an enemy from the battle. Maybe a nasty caster, a hard hitter or even a boss that doesn't have legendary resi left.
It's great in lots of escape situations. Turn the toughest enemy into a giant tortoise and it cannot keep up with you.
Someone is harrassing you? Trying to pick a fight? Polymorph and walk away. An assassin tries to kill you? Polymorph and walk away. In one hour you'll be far away. Or polymorph and deliver them to prison.
If you are a sorcerer, you can freakin twin this. TWO enemies removed from the fight. That is amazingly strong.
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To me it seems like many people take quite a bit of liberties with the part where you keep your alignment and personality. 😯
I've always considered Polymorph a 99% offensive spell with the exception of turning a friend into a mouse to smuggle them someplace.
But this is a matter of interpretation of the spell and ultimately up to the DM.
The way I see it:
If you turned yourself into an intelligent beast like Giant Eagle, then you would be able to follow and make plans and smart decisions. But if you turned yourself into a frog, you would have animal intelligence and be very instinct driven and not self-aware by nature. You wouldn't even understand that you are under a spell.
You would however probably be gentle and calm if that's in your personality.
The spell doesn't specify that you need to have seen the type of beast, but I'd say that it needs to exist and you must have a pretty good knowledge about it if you haven't seen it. So you can't make up a new intelligent frog if they don't exist.
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But what if someone told you. Say the party rogue - or bard! - told you about the intelligent talking frogs of Klatch?
Half proficiency + an ability you don't need doesn't amount to much, so even with jack of all trades, the bard is a wonderful source for convincing misinformation.
So if you've heard of the wondrous intelligent talking frogs of Klatch - but no such thing actually exists - then can you polymorph into one?
Blanket disclaimer: I only ever state opinion. But I can sound terribly dogmatic - so if you feel I'm trying to tell you what to think, I'm really not, I swear. I'm telling you what I think, that's all.