Cody’s just tried out his skating rink. He went far too fast towards the end and flew off the edge. Now he’s laying on the ground, bruised and with probably a few broken ribs.
*guh I’m bored*
*This character was inspired by that one vr painting thing where you could draw in 3D space*
Leo looks over at the rink, only slightly surprised to see a kid laying on the ground motionless. He slowly steps into the ice and feels his body start to slide. Grinning, Leo sticks out his finger and it begins glowing, creating a line of light as he moves.
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(he/him)
I confess it's a shame, When you livin' in a city that's the size of a box and nobody knows yo' name
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Finn bumps into him and drops a painting. “Oh. Sorry. Who are you?”
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My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
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I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult) I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3 Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
Cody’s just tried out his skating rink. He went far too fast towards the end and flew off the edge. Now he’s laying on the ground, bruised and with probably a few broken ribs.
*guh I’m bored*
*This character was inspired by that one vr painting thing where you could draw in 3D space*
Leo looks over at the rink, only slightly surprised to see a kid laying on the ground motionless. He slowly steps into the ice and feels his body start to slide. Grinning, Leo sticks out his finger and it begins glowing, creating a line of light as he moves.
Cody continues to lie on the ground, groaning. “I hope I die soon…”
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My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
Cherry turns to him and says "Nobody asked for your opinion, flat stanley"
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I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult) I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3 Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
Cherry turns to him and says "Nobody asked for your opinion, flat stanley"
"you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that."
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
Cherry turns to him and says "Nobody asked for your opinion, flat stanley"
"you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that."
"What did you say?" ok now she's full on pissssed. She slides on her glasses and walks over to him slowly but in a rage filled way
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I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult) I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3 Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Finn bumps into him and drops a painting. “Oh. Sorry. Who are you?”
*what was Finn doing when he made this painting?*
He stumbles back. “I’m Tristan. I’m… well, you already know I’m new here.”
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No news is good news…
I'll lay a white rose on the cold earth, knowing it that it has not claimed your soul.
"what was your plan there anyway? Make me freak out so you could see if I'd be upset if you didn't come back?if I was a liar this whole time? Or did you just not think? Like at all? GOD! Your going to be the death of me!"
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
Cherry turns to him and says "Nobody asked for your opinion, flat stanley"
"you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that."
"What did you say?" ok now she's full on pissssed. She slides on her glasses and walks over to him slowly but in a rage filled way
"i said 'you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that.'"
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Finn bumps into him and drops a painting. “Oh. Sorry. Who are you?”
*what was Finn doing when he made this painting?*
He stumbles back. “I’m Tristan. I’m… well, you already know I’m new here.”
*He was walking through the hallways, using his two brain cells to steer himself around. He’s the most thoughtless character you’ll ever meet.*
”I’m Finn.” He kneels down and starts to pick up the painting and the tools.
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My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
"what was your plan there anyway? Make me freak out so you could see if I'd be upset if you didn't come back?if I was a liar this whole time? Or did you just not think? Like at all? GOD! Your going to be the death of me!"
“I think it was option three. Not thinking. I mean, I thought you’d know that I’d come back.”
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My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
Cherry turns to him and says "Nobody asked for your opinion, flat stanley"
"you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that."
"What did you say?" ok now she's full on pissssed. She slides on her glasses and walks over to him slowly but in a rage filled way
"i said 'you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that.'"
"I heard that. And before you say anything else I would like to remind you that you are on the floor and i am wearing combat boots. So choose carefully"
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I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult) I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3 Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
He winces a bit, as though hearing an incredibly high-pitched noise. “Neither.” He mutters.
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No news is good news…
I'll lay a white rose on the cold earth, knowing it that it has not claimed your soul.
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Finn bumps into him and drops a painting. “Oh. Sorry. Who are you?”
*what was Finn doing when he made this painting?*
He stumbles back. “I’m Tristan. I’m… well, you already know I’m new here.”
*He was walking through the hallways, using his two brain cells to steer himself around. He’s the most thoughtless character you’ll ever meet.*
”I’m Finn.” He kneels down and starts to pick up the painting and the tools.
Trist takes note of this mentally. “Okay. Do you know where I’m to go?”
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No news is good news…
I'll lay a white rose on the cold earth, knowing it that it has not claimed your soul.
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
Cherry turns to him and says "Nobody asked for your opinion, flat stanley"
"you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that."
"What did you say?" ok now she's full on pissssed. She slides on her glasses and walks over to him slowly but in a rage filled way
"i said 'you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that.'"
"I heard that. And before you say anything else I would like to remind you that you are on the floor and i am wearing combat boots. So choose carefully"
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Finn bumps into him and drops a painting. “Oh. Sorry. Who are you?”
*what was Finn doing when he made this painting?*
He stumbles back. “I’m Tristan. I’m… well, you already know I’m new here.”
*He was walking through the hallways, using his two brain cells to steer himself around. He’s the most thoughtless character you’ll ever meet.*
”I’m Finn.” He kneels down and starts to pick up the painting and the tools.
Trist takes note of this mentally. “Okay. Do you know where I’m to go?”
“Why do you need to go somewhere?”
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My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
He winces a bit, as though hearing an incredibly high-pitched noise. “Neither.” He mutters.
"Alright. That was just a joke, mate"
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I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult) I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3 Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
Standing at the end of the hallway, the one everyone came through, is a boy, looking to be about sixteen. He is wearing a red windbreaker, black jeans, and a pair of nondescript shoes. His hair is sand-colored and unkempt, and he wears thin glasses. He has a bit of a long neck and is looking around as though he’s barely conscious of what’s happening.
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
Cherry turns to him and says "Nobody asked for your opinion, flat stanley"
"you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that."
"What did you say?" ok now she's full on pissssed. She slides on her glasses and walks over to him slowly but in a rage filled way
"i said 'you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that.'"
"I heard that. And before you say anything else I would like to remind you that you are on the floor and i am wearing combat boots. So choose carefully"
"i don't care i gave up pain a long time ago."
"Right then" she kicks him in the ribs. hard.
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I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult) I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3 Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
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*This character was inspired by that one vr painting thing where you could draw in 3D space*
Leo looks over at the rink, only slightly surprised to see a kid laying on the ground motionless. He slowly steps into the ice and feels his body start to slide. Grinning, Leo sticks out his finger and it begins glowing, creating a line of light as he moves.
(he/him)
I confess it's a shame, When you livin' in a city that's the size of a box and nobody knows yo' name
-"I Wish" Skee-Lo (literally the best song ever)
Nickname: Elliot the Old (IM NOT THAT OLD VITUS-)
Finn bumps into him and drops a painting. “Oh. Sorry. Who are you?”
My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
TRON LIVES
Cherry walks up to him and asks him semi-judgementally "Where did they find you, a gutter or a convenience store?"
I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs
Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult)
I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3
Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose
Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
Cody continues to lie on the ground, groaning. “I hope I die soon…”
My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
TRON LIVES
arthur still on the floor yells "at least have some courtesy!"
The only thing I know for certain is that I exist
Cherry turns to him and says "Nobody asked for your opinion, flat stanley"
I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs
Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult)
I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3
Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose
Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
"you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that."
The only thing I know for certain is that I exist
"What did you say?" ok now she's full on pissssed. She slides on her glasses and walks over to him slowly but in a rage filled way
I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs
Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult)
I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3
Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose
Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
*what was Finn doing when he made this painting?*
He stumbles back. “I’m Tristan. I’m… well, you already know I’m new here.”
No news is good news…
I'll lay a white rose on the cold earth, knowing it that it has not claimed your soul.
"what was your plan there anyway? Make me freak out so you could see if I'd be upset if you didn't come back?if I was a liar this whole time? Or did you just not think? Like at all? GOD! Your going to be the death of me!"
Hi! I'm violet, the ultimate silly snake!
"i said 'you shouldn't insult peoples' looks when you look like....that.'"
The only thing I know for certain is that I exist
*He was walking through the hallways, using his two brain cells to steer himself around. He’s the most thoughtless character you’ll ever meet.*
”I’m Finn.” He kneels down and starts to pick up the painting and the tools.
My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
TRON LIVES
“I think it was option three. Not thinking. I mean, I thought you’d know that I’d come back.”
My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
TRON LIVES
"I heard that. And before you say anything else I would like to remind you that you are on the floor and i am wearing combat boots. So choose carefully"
I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs
Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult)
I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3
Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose
Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
He winces a bit, as though hearing an incredibly high-pitched noise. “Neither.” He mutters.
No news is good news…
I'll lay a white rose on the cold earth, knowing it that it has not claimed your soul.
Trist takes note of this mentally. “Okay. Do you know where I’m to go?”
No news is good news…
I'll lay a white rose on the cold earth, knowing it that it has not claimed your soul.
"i don't care i gave up pain a long time ago."
The only thing I know for certain is that I exist
“Why do you need to go somewhere?”
My name’s Gradius, this is my second account :P I love Hollow Knight and I have been on ddb for a while. Come rp with me anytime! It is my purpose. My title that was given to me by Drummer is…SPIRIT OF THE WEST, GUARDIAN OF THE HOLLOWS.
No cost too great. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Born of God and Void.
TRON LIVES
"Alright. That was just a joke, mate"
I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs
Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult)
I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3
Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose
Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)
"Right then" she kicks him in the ribs. hard.
I'm Fry, a doodler, writer, aspiring singer/songwriter, and sort-of youtuber (check me out!) goofin' around on the interwebs
Soli Deo Gloria(Sed servus eius crustulum vult)
I'm a disabled, neurodivergent, dumpster fire, and somewhat of a clown, but I do my best :3
Crafter of Constellations, vocaloid enjoyer, waluigi’s #1 fan, space alien, undead cutie pie, danganer of ronpas, and certified silly goose
Internet big sib to aspeninthetrees, TheGatoLover, (and hopefully more)