what do you mean by genre of mythology? Because mythology itself is a genre. Like, best mythology, or action vs something else?
Sorry, I mean like what type of mythology. Like Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Persian, etc.
Nordic or Celtic
best accent?
Hmm, gotta say a good ol' Scottish or German accent never hurts.
Best flavor of 7-Up?
Try again. I’ve never had 7-Up
druid said “:3”
Best flavor of Coke?
Nice.
You know what, never mind. I’ve never had coke. I’ve had root beer once. I’ve never had most fizzy drinks.
what’s your favorite color
Never had Coke? That's just sad. I don't like root beer much, but I'll drink it occasionally.
Black, like my soul.
Favorite type of medieval or ancient weapon?
I don’t like anything carbonated
morningstars because they have a fun name and they’re poky
best breakfast food
I personally like hook swords or naginatas, but morningstars are also cool.
Donuts.
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Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
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Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
(did I do something to warrant being worried for?)
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fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
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Local Jokester, Viber, Doctor, and Therapist, I do my best to make your day better, and if I fail I'll try again tomorrow.
'Nothing is beautiful because it lasts.'
'War does not decide who was right, but only who is left.'
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
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Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
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fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
It’s not about you, it’s about the current state of the US government
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Yo, I'm Himy (He/him) not as active as I use to be, but I'm here from time to time. I don't got much else to say.
"From the stars of the inner sea, from the tower of insight, from the four corners of paradise, let them know; their story is filled with blessings. Only those free of sin may pass... Garden of Avalon!”
”The elements coalesce, amalgamate, and bring forth the star that interweaves all creation. Bow down with death! Enuma Elish!”
It’s not about you, it’s about the current state of the US government
so why are you worried for me besides if we're lucky the house is mostly Democrats I have no idea if it is or not though.
1. I’m not worried about you. I’m not sure, but you don’t seem to be part of a minority group (but you can never know for sure on the internet) 2. It’s not
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Yo, I'm Himy (He/him) not as active as I use to be, but I'm here from time to time. I don't got much else to say.
"From the stars of the inner sea, from the tower of insight, from the four corners of paradise, let them know; their story is filled with blessings. Only those free of sin may pass... Garden of Avalon!”
”The elements coalesce, amalgamate, and bring forth the star that interweaves all creation. Bow down with death! Enuma Elish!”
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
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Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
It’s not about you, it’s about the current state of the US government
so why are you worried for me besides if we're lucky the house is mostly Democrats I have no idea if it is or not though.
1. I’m not worried about you. I’m not sure, but you don’t seem to be part of a minority group (but you can never know for sure on the internet) 2. It’s not
anyways ned is officially replacing the bartender in the long, roundabout path
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fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
well first you've only known me for like a week. honestly elk I feel like a week is a bit too soon for you to consider me a friend.
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
well first you don't know my actual name as evidence to himy calling me druid and second you've only known me for like a week
I’m talking about a different Druid. If I talked to you more, I’d call you Driz or something
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Yo, I'm Himy (He/him) not as active as I use to be, but I'm here from time to time. I don't got much else to say.
"From the stars of the inner sea, from the tower of insight, from the four corners of paradise, let them know; their story is filled with blessings. Only those free of sin may pass... Garden of Avalon!”
”The elements coalesce, amalgamate, and bring forth the star that interweaves all creation. Bow down with death! Enuma Elish!”
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
well first you don't know my actual name as evidence to himy calling me druid and second you've only known me for like a week
Doesn't exactly matter to me. Basically everyone on Onions I consider a friend.
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Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
well first you don't know my actual name as evidence to himy calling me druid and second you've only known me for like a week
Doesn't exactly matter to me. Basically everyone on Onions I consider a friend.
nice
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fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
well first you don't know my actual name as evidence to himy calling me druid and second you've only known me for like a week
Doesn't exactly matter to me. Basically everyone on Onions I consider a friend.
The way I see it is that an online friend is different from a real life friend (I’m not saying you can’t have a good relationship with someone online, many people do) personally I like a lot of people who hang around LCW and similar threads but none I know enough to consider them a real real friend. It’s more the community on here and just general chatting. Like, I don’t think I’d ever find someone and date them online like some people do (not shaming those who do, I just don’t get it) and stuff like that. But yeah the community here is nice even if not like a real life friend
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
well first you don't know my actual name as evidence to himy calling me druid and second you've only known me for like a week
Doesn't exactly matter to me. Basically everyone on Onions I consider a friend.
The way I see it is that an online friend is different from a real life friend (I’m not saying you can’t have a good relationship with someone online, many people do) personally I like a lot of people who hang around LCW and similar threads but none I know enough to consider them a real real friend. It’s more the community on here and just general chatting. Like, I don’t think I’d ever find someone and date them online like some people do (not shaming those who do, I just don’t get it) and stuff like that. But yeah the community here is nice even if not like a real life friend
My mom’s devastated, and my dad came in to give me the Talk about how we’re gonna be fine and my parents will love and support me and stuff. I’m wearing all black.
I'm worried about Druid
i'm worried about a lot of my friends
I'm just worried, worried about everything.
Same. I am genuinely scared for the future. I’m worried for everyone on here who lives in America, all of my friends, life in general, etc.
*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
am I considered a friend?
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
well first you don't know my actual name as evidence to himy calling me druid and second you've only known me for like a week
Doesn't exactly matter to me. Basically everyone on Onions I consider a friend.
The way I see it is that an online friend is different from a real life friend (I’m not saying you can’t have a good relationship with someone online, many people do) personally I like a lot of people who hang around LCW and similar threads but none I know enough to consider them a real real friend. It’s more the community on here and just general chatting. Like, I don’t think I’d ever find someone and date them online like some people do (not shaming those who do, I just don’t get it) and stuff like that. But yeah the community here is nice even if not like a real life friend
what if you met with them in real life though?
If you’re responding to dating, and you’re asking what if you met them online to meet irl like dating apps, then I just don’t think I’d ever go on dating apps or find someone online.
If you mean if I met the people here irl would I be friends with them, I can’t really tell, perhaps but I’m 13 (14 soon) and people on here can get a lot older then that, Baalze and Vitus I think are older, Nothic too and several others. I always have a lot of different opinions from people on here. I wouldn’t ever deliberately meet up with people online though and only a few people here live in my area
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I personally like hook swords or naginatas, but morningstars are also cool.
Donuts.
Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
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*stretches arms like Luffy to allow me to give everyone a giant group hug*
Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
Extended sig
(did I do something to warrant being worried for?)
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
NO! A HUG! *Attempts to sprint away, but can't in time.*
Local Jokester, Viber, Doctor, and Therapist, I do my best to make your day better, and if I fail I'll try again tomorrow.
'Nothing is beautiful because it lasts.'
'War does not decide who was right, but only who is left.'
https://docs.google.com/document/d/12WUcdu6YBH2USIcmf48FCnLwDh_mGHZJZYZWwLLRzhA/edit?tab=t.0 (For when I'm gone.)
Jester, did I do something to make himy worried?
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
You ain't gettin' away this time, J-man! *cackles manically while still hugging*
Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
Extended sig
am I considered a friend?
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
It’s not about you, it’s about the current state of the US government
Yo, I'm Himy (He/him) not as active as I use to be, but I'm here from time to time. I don't got much else to say.
"From the stars of the inner sea, from the tower of insight, from the four corners of paradise, let them know; their story is filled with blessings. Only those free of sin may pass... Garden of Avalon!”
”The elements coalesce, amalgamate, and bring forth the star that interweaves all creation. Bow down with death! Enuma Elish!”
so why are you worried for me besides if we're lucky the house is mostly Democrats I have no idea if it is or not though.
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
1. I’m not worried about you. I’m not sure, but you don’t seem to be part of a minority group (but you can never know for sure on the internet) 2. It’s not
Yo, I'm Himy (He/him) not as active as I use to be, but I'm here from time to time. I don't got much else to say.
"From the stars of the inner sea, from the tower of insight, from the four corners of paradise, let them know; their story is filled with blessings. Only those free of sin may pass... Garden of Avalon!”
”The elements coalesce, amalgamate, and bring forth the star that interweaves all creation. Bow down with death! Enuma Elish!”
Why would you not be? *in Scorpion voice* Get over here!
Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
Extended sig
anyways ned is officially replacing the bartender in the long, roundabout path
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
well first you've only known me for like a week. honestly elk I feel like a week is a bit too soon for you to consider me a friend.
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
I’m talking about a different Druid. If I talked to you more, I’d call you Driz or something
Yo, I'm Himy (He/him) not as active as I use to be, but I'm here from time to time. I don't got much else to say.
"From the stars of the inner sea, from the tower of insight, from the four corners of paradise, let them know; their story is filled with blessings. Only those free of sin may pass... Garden of Avalon!”
”The elements coalesce, amalgamate, and bring forth the star that interweaves all creation. Bow down with death! Enuma Elish!”
Doesn't exactly matter to me. Basically everyone on Onions I consider a friend.
Hi there! My name's Elk. I'm NoiSilverheart's doppelgänger. I'm a demi/grayromantic, socially awkward Okie who may or may not be a pyromaniac. *random confetti blast*
I'm a warlock of the Archcrone, and my patron is TheFriendlyArchfey. I was nicknamed AchatesCervus8337 by VitusW and given the titles "Swashbuckling Scorcher", "The Unpredictable Jedi", "Burning Fury of the Ancients", and "Combustion Knight" by DrummerBoyDragonSlayer.
Extended sig
nice
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
The way I see it is that an online friend is different from a real life friend (I’m not saying you can’t have a good relationship with someone online, many people do) personally I like a lot of people who hang around LCW and similar threads but none I know enough to consider them a real real friend. It’s more the community on here and just general chatting. Like, I don’t think I’d ever find someone and date them online like some people do (not shaming those who do, I just don’t get it) and stuff like that. But yeah the community here is nice even if not like a real life friend
cant explain it well
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Clang! Clang! Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead
I’m pretty sure it’s mostly Republican..
Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head
Clang! Clang! Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead
what if you met with them in real life though?
fellow follower of JEFF!!!! and a fan of botw
Co-cult leader of the cynophobia cult
Archivist of the kingdoms and Crowns thread, Percy Jackson thread, and Mechanicus thread
If you’re responding to dating, and you’re asking what if you met them online to meet irl like dating apps, then I just don’t think I’d ever go on dating apps or find someone online.
If you mean if I met the people here irl would I be friends with them, I can’t really tell, perhaps but I’m 13 (14 soon) and people on here can get a lot older then that, Baalze and Vitus I think are older, Nothic too and several others. I always have a lot of different opinions from people on here. I wouldn’t ever deliberately meet up with people online though and only a few people here live in my area
Bang! Bang! Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head
Clang! Clang! Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead