The Battle of Jeff!

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What? It's a hobby!

 Runs around in circles like a puny little mortal 

 But but but...

 Butt 

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What? It's a hobby!

 Runs around in circles like a puny little mortal 

 But but but...

 Butt 

 No! Bad Banananananer!

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Welcome. To the battle. Of Jeff! For those who haven’t been watching the threads, the high cultists of Jeff will be going up against Tana and possibly some of her helpers in a race to see who will win once and for all! This is an interesting version though, since there are not only battles, there will also later be puzzles, tricks, traps, and more in a race to the finish. And, it’s not just cultists who can fight. Anyone can attempt to 3rd-party steal the victory away!

So. Who will win? Tana? Jeff? Or… someone else? Because the last fight… let’s just say, it’s not what we’re expecting.

Character Creation Rules:

2024 or 2014 rules, your choice, but preferably not a mix of both.

All characters are level 20.

All source material is allowed. 3rd party stuff and homebrew must be run by me first, no exceptions. Undying Corruption is good.

Start with these scores. These scores cannot be modified (so, no ASIs, no Tomes or Manuals, no Boons). 26, 24, 22, 20, 18, 18.

Banned Spells: 

Wish.

Banned items:

Apparatus of Kwalish

Servant of Leuk-O

Sphere of Annihilation

Talisman of the Sphere

Talisman of Pure Good

Talisman of Ultimate Evil

You can start with:

EITHER 1 artifact OR 2 legendaries

One legendary

3 very rares

5 rares

10 uncommons.

20 commons (but why?).

Attunement is something you have to keep track of. I will be reviewing all sheets. Multiple people can have the same items. Everyone starts with 10 healing potions, 5 greater healing, 3 superior, and 1 supreme.

Thread Rules:

Nothing 18+ or inappropriate.

No being mean to others or you will be kicked from the thread.

No powergaming/cheating/exploiting unfair loopholes or see above.

Put the word “fortnight” in your first post to see you’ve read the rules.

 Battle Order:

Battle Royale: Starts at 12 PM EST on August 25. Initiative closes at 11:30.

Round 2: ???

Round 3: ???

Round 4: ???

Round 5: Boss Fight! Date TBD.

Initiative:

 

 

 

 

Character Sheets:

 

 

That’s all from me for now. I’ll be sending out a PM to my fellow Jeff cultists to start work on Rounds 2-4. In the meantime, go get started on your character sheets!

 Hi everyone back for a second to ruin everyone's day anyways

Link wth am I staring at for both stats and items? nobody needs 40 magic items hell it ruins the spirit of minmaxing and if I can properly make a level 20 swashbuckler rogue into a over 100 dpr character you know that's way too many.second stats nobody needs that high of stats for 2 reasons first it increases saving throws that already would be hard for some martial classes and when your enemies barb has 30 con along with blood fury tattoo and a few other things your better off just throwing in the towel. 3rd consumables should not be allowed for various reasons such as them being too powerful like a scroll of timestop or abjurers bangle. and some of them are just pointless to use in combat like potions. so to sum it up nerf this and start banning stuff that's it from me

Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

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Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

 Where? 

I’m not fine with the rules, but I’m not good at minmaxxing at all so that probably doesn’t matter. 

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Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

 Where? 

I’m not fine with the rules, but I’m not good at minmaxxing at all so that probably doesn’t matter. 

 Tana bargained for it, and the Bangle has a max stack of 1 and a limit of Rare.

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Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

 Where? 

I’m not fine with the rules, but I’m not good at minmaxxing at all so that probably doesn’t matter. 

 Tana bargained for it, and the Bangle has a max stack of 1 and a limit of Rare.

 I’d still like to know where that is 

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Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

 Where? 

I’m not fine with the rules, but I’m not good at minmaxxing at all so that probably doesn’t matter. 

 Tana bargained for it, and the Bangle has a max stack of 1 and a limit of Rare.

 I’d still like to know where that is 

 Bangle is on page one, Time Stop is like 2-4.

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Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

 First you absolutely suck at balancing so I wouldn't trust your rules as far as I can throw them not to mention 120 HP regardless is absurd and time stop is op just in general. Second your logic is flawed just because people are fine with them doesn't mean they are good rules and hell naner even said they weren't fine with the rules so that certainly isn't everyone. Third 40 GPing magic items is absurd no matter what, nobody needs that many and it ruins building because the more magic items you have the less it's about the classes, subclasses,races and feats and more about magic items. 4th by not having adjustable stats you kinda just ruined races like half elf or regular human for example. When I tell you that stuff about your thread should be changed I'm not saying it because I hate you I'm telling you because it needs to be changed so it's more reasonable as a combat thread but whatever you aren't going to listen to me anyways.

Do you want me to ban time stop entirely? Also, I will cut most of the magic items. The stats, though, I will keep, since it means that Tana or someone doesn’t have 3 30s. The stats actually do make it more balanced.

People now get 13 magic items. I cut a lot of the items.

Balth, I hear you, and I’m trying to make adjustments, but due to time and stuff, I’ve been really busy, so I only got around to it now.

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Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

 First you absolutely suck at balancing so I wouldn't trust your rules as far as I can throw them not to mention 120 HP regardless is absurd and time stop is op just in general. Second your logic is flawed just because people are fine with them doesn't mean they are good rules and hell naner even said they weren't fine with the rules so that certainly isn't everyone. Third 40 GPing magic items is absurd no matter what, nobody needs that many and it ruins building because the more magic items you have the less it's about the classes, subclasses,races and feats and more about magic items. 4th by not having adjustable stats you kinda just ruined races like half elf or regular human for example. When I tell you that stuff about your thread should be changed I'm not saying it because I hate you I'm telling you because it needs to be changed so it's more reasonable as a combat thread but whatever you aren't going to listen to me anyways.

 It’s only 75 hp if that makes a difference.

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Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

 First you absolutely suck at balancing so I wouldn't trust your rules as far as I can throw them not to mention 120 HP regardless is absurd and time stop is op just in general. Second your logic is flawed just because people are fine with them doesn't mean they are good rules and hell naner even said they weren't fine with the rules so that certainly isn't everyone. Third 40 GPing magic items is absurd no matter what, nobody needs that many and it ruins building because the more magic items you have the less it's about the classes, subclasses,races and feats and more about magic items. 4th by not having adjustable stats you kinda just ruined races like half elf or regular human for example. When I tell you that stuff about your thread should be changed I'm not saying it because I hate you I'm telling you because it needs to be changed so it's more reasonable as a combat thread but whatever you aren't going to listen to me anyways.

 It’s only 75 hp if that makes a difference.

 Alright for reference 75 HP is equivalent to a level 7 barbarian with +3 con that's why it's absurd and should be banned 

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People now get 13 magic items. I cut a lot of the items.

 Just do a point buy thing like cyno did people still get options but they can't have a bunch of items 

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Do you want me to ban time stop entirely? Also, I will cut most of the magic items. The stats, though, I will keep, since it means that Tana or someone doesn’t have 3 30s. The stats actually do make it more balanced.

 Honestly it's up for debate on banning time stop the spell but banning the scroll of time stop should be done because you are able to cast a 9th level spell for free without expending a spell slot 

Alright I'll go now have fun

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Onnnnn the other hand, everyone else does seem to be fine with the rules, and I implemented specific rules for the scroll of Time Stop and the Abjurer’s Bangle.

 First you absolutely suck at balancing so I wouldn't trust your rules as far as I can throw them not to mention 120 HP regardless is absurd and time stop is op just in general. Second your logic is flawed just because people are fine with them doesn't mean they are good rules and hell naner even said they weren't fine with the rules so that certainly isn't everyone. Third 40 GPing magic items is absurd no matter what, nobody needs that many and it ruins building because the more magic items you have the less it's about the classes, subclasses,races and feats and more about magic items. 4th by not having adjustable stats you kinda just ruined races like half elf or regular human for example. When I tell you that stuff about your thread should be changed I'm not saying it because I hate you I'm telling you because it needs to be changed so it's more reasonable as a combat thread but whatever you aren't going to listen to me anyways.

 It’s only 75 hp if that makes a difference.

 Alright for reference 75 HP is equivalent to a level 7 barbarian with +3 con that's why it's absurd and should be banned 

 I’m just keeping a max stack of one. 

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Do you want me to ban time stop entirely? Also, I will cut most of the magic items. The stats, though, I will keep, since it means that Tana or someone doesn’t have 3 30s. The stats actually do make it more balanced.

 Honestly it's up for debate on banning time stop the spell but banning the scroll of time stop should be done because you are able to cast a 9th level spell for free without expending a spell slot 

 I’ll ask. What are everyone else’s feelings on this? I’m fine either way, Tana? Naner?

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Alright I'll go now have fun

 I’ll keep making improvements!