At third level, for each of the subclasses, you get free tools (for example, the Artillerist gains smith's tools and wood carver's tools for free). What if you already have those tools? For proficiencies, the rules say you get to choose another proficiency if you already have the proficiency. But I don't see any rule about the actual tools.
I'm not seeing the part where it says you get to choose another proficiency if you already have the proficiency. But I would say if you're getting a free set of tools when you already have a set of the same tools, then congratulations on your *second* set of tools for you to do with as you please, even sell them.
"If a character would gain the same proficiency from two different sources, he or she can choose a different proficiency of the same kind (skill or tool) instead. (PBR, p. 36; PHB, p. 126)"
Huh, TIL. I was under the impression that "You gain proficiency with X and Y, assuming you don’t already have them" just meant that you get X and Y proficiencies regardless if you had either of them already before the subclass. But no, that PHB ruling makes more than enough sense.
"If a character would gain the same proficiency from two different sources, he or she can choose a different proficiency of the same kind (skill or tool) instead. (PBR, p. 36; PHB, p. 126)"
"If a character would gain the same proficiency from two different sources, he or she can choose a different proficiency of the same kind (skill or tool) instead. (PBR, p. 36; PHB, p. 126)"
"If a character would gain the same proficiency from two different sources, he or she can choose a different proficiency of the same kind (skill or tool) instead. (PBR, p. 36; PHB, p. 126)"
That rule is refering to backgrounds.
OK thanks. I didn't catch that.
Indeed, that is a specific rule for backgrounds. In other areas where you would gain proficiencies you can only choose a new proficiency if you already have it if and only if the feature that grants that proficiency says that you can.
That being said, regarding the artisan tools get at level three, I agree, the way it is worded it you already have a set you still get a second set.
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At third level, for each of the subclasses, you get free tools (for example, the Artillerist gains smith's tools and wood carver's tools for free). What if you already have those tools? For proficiencies, the rules say you get to choose another proficiency if you already have the proficiency. But I don't see any rule about the actual tools.
I'm not seeing the part where it says you get to choose another proficiency if you already have the proficiency. But I would say if you're getting a free set of tools when you already have a set of the same tools, then congratulations on your *second* set of tools for you to do with as you please, even sell them.
Huh, TIL. I was under the impression that "You gain proficiency with X and Y, assuming you don’t already have them" just meant that you get X and Y proficiencies regardless if you had either of them already before the subclass. But no, that PHB ruling makes more than enough sense.
The Artificer - Alchemist 3rd level feature states:
I agree this means you just gain them, even if you already have them - this means you now have a backup and can keep it or trade/sell it.
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That rule is refering to backgrounds.
OK thanks. I didn't catch that.
Indeed, that is a specific rule for backgrounds. In other areas where you would gain proficiencies you can only choose a new proficiency if you already have it if and only if the feature that grants that proficiency says that you can.
That being said, regarding the artisan tools get at level three, I agree, the way it is worded it you already have a set you still get a second set.