Flame Blade

Damn, still a magic action so still cant benefit from extra attack

I really like this spell. It reminds me of something a character could do from the wheel of time series. I'll use it next time my sorcerer levels up

Can innate Innate Sorcery give advantage to this spell ?

Could this be used with the new Primal Strike druid feature and/or the new True Strike cantrip? So at level 7 with a 2nd level spell slot it would be the 3d6 + modifier + 1d8 Primal Strike + 1d6 radiant true strike?

It doesn't seem likely RAW or RAI. Primal strike specifies that it only works with a Wild-Shaped attack or weapon attack, and unfortunately the wording of this spell classifies it as a Melee Spell attack. True Strike also doesn't seem like it'd work with this strictly speaking by the rules since it requires a weapon used for the casting and it costs an action that you'd need to use your Flame Blade as an attack. A case could be made hypothetically that Flame Blade creates a weapon to individual DMs but RAW and RAI I don't see it holding up.

Yes, Innate Sorcery RAW would give you advantage on attacks with Flame Blade since you still have to cast this spell initially to summon it. Nittiest pick I can think of would be someone trying to gotcha on having to activate your Innate Sorcery before you cast the spell but truthfully I don't think an argument for that could be made in good faith.

why does this spell still suck? they had a chance to fix it, but they chose to force it to remain uninteresting and unreliable because of the concentration restriction, what a waste of ink!

I think the only change they made is that it scales better. Still super cool flavor wise, still mediocre mechanically :/

It looks like the scaling is incorrect on the character sheet. It should increase by 1d6 per slot but instead increases by 1d6 per 2-slots. 

No, they also added that you add your spellcasting modifer to the damage. Combined with Draconic Sorceror, that means you could be doing 3d6+10 with a 2nd level spell, which isn't terrible

Can it be combined with true strike?

I think this is meant to be used with Circle of Spores Druid

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I think the only change they made is that it scales better. Still super cool flavor wise, still mediocre mechanically :/

 Oh, I agree. They made a very boring buff, although it's pretty massive (you get to add your spellcasting modifier AND it adds 1d6 every level? Just upcasting to level 3 already means that it got a massive damage buff), but I would've 100% preferred if they changed the way it works to be specifically a Weapon that uses the Magic Action to attack (that way it could work with cantrips like True Strike or Booming Blade, without working with Extra Attack)

Hi,

"the blade is similar in in size and shape of a scimitar".

Could it benefit from the "nick" rule and can a rogue multiclass use it with sneak attack (finesse weapon)?

Thx for the answer, forgot to say that.

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I see your point, but would say that the flame blade is a weapon, but without a property. It doesnt say, it isnt a weapon. 

Would u allow following:

Sorcerer - Fighter multiclass: I would start as a Draconic Sorcerer (dwarf/farmer) until lvl 7 and then fighter Battle Master until lvl 3. I want to make a tanky Sorcerer (high con)with flame blade. Most of the maneuver of battle master just say: "when you hit with an attack roll" or something like that. Only a few specify it to melee attack. 

But i want to take duelist as a fightling style. therefore flame blad has to be a weapon.

And i imagine a disarming scorching ray and other shenanigans.

to much?

Like i thought, damn. But its sounds interesting even without dueling.

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I think the only change they made is that it scales better. Still super cool flavor wise, still mediocre mechanically :/

 Oh, I agree. They made a very boring buff, although it's pretty massive (you get to add your spellcasting modifier AND it adds 1d6 every level? Just upcasting to level 3 already means that it got a massive damage buff), but I would've 100% preferred if they changed the way it works to be specifically a Weapon that uses the Magic Action to attack (that way it could work with cantrips like True Strike or Booming Blade, without working with Extra Attack)

 I'll be honest I missed where it said it adds your spellcasting ability modifier.

I suppose that is a pretty substantial improvement from the previous version.

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Can innate Innate Sorcery give advantage to this spell ?

 Yes it can

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Can it be combined with true strike?

No. True Strike's material component is a weapon that you're proficient with and is worth at least 1 copper piece. This means it has to be an actual, real, physical weapon, not something created out of magic like this spell (or Shadow Blade, Pact of the Blade, etc.)

 I think on top of that, it takes a magic action to cast true strike and a magic action to strike with the Fiery Blade... even if a DM hand waved the component cost, i think this issue prohibits it

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No, they also added that you add your spellcasting modifer to the damage. Combined with Draconic Sorceror, that means you could be doing 3d6+10 with a 2nd level spell, which isn't terrible

 you cant stack modifiers in any way unless specified, for example, things like guidance dont stack, neither does this