Geas

Is commanding a creature to commit a specific crime that is generally punishable by death (such as high treason, regicide or the like) considered as a suicidal command?

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Is commanding a creature to commit a specific crime that is generally punishable by death (such as high treason, regicide or the like) considered as a suicidal command?

 Only of they're caught

A good candidate for the Divine Intervention feature. 

"You can issue any command you choose, short of an activity that would result in certain death. Should you issue a suicidal command, the spell ends."

Darn. There goes my idea to issue a geas: "do not obey this geas."

> cast geas on dragon

> "give all of your belongings to charitable causes"

yee yee ass dragon: >:c

missing a space between "Remove Curse," and "Greater Restoration" btw

We just used this spell in a campaign to compel a knight to step down from a leadership role,

and not interfere in the law of our barony.

It seems like possible developments for this are:

1. we don't re-cast the spell within 30 days and he has some revenge,
2. he purposefully acts against the command, knowingly or unknowingly dying from the psychic damage...
3. or something else I can't think of.

All in all, it's a really fun spell for creating tensions in multiple outcomes,

ideas about authority and justice, 

etc.

5d10 is an average of only 27.5, I think the dragon would just tank the damage. 

Quote from OluSavvor >>

> cast geas on dragon

> "give all of your belongings to charitable causes"

yee yee ass dragon: >:c

 that's how you get a dragon nemesis

As long as the knight has at least 51 HP he'll be able to just deal with the damage and ignore you and long rest to recover HP. He'll have to make sure to go to bed on time and deal with a bunch of pain every day for a month but it's likely he'll survive.

Oh, neat. Once it's on, it's on until it ends - no more actions from casters to get rid of it!

...Oh, so it does. How did I miss that?

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Oh, neat. Once it's on, it's on until it ends - no more actions from casters to get rid of it!

All ongoing spells, including this one, can be dismissed by the caster at any time (without requiring an action). This is a new concept in the 2024 rules.

All spells that included specific actions that could be used by the caster to dismiss them have had that text removed for that reason.

 
Would the spell end if the caster died? The spell doesn't seem to indicate so, but perhaps I'm missing a broader rule such as the one you mentioned here about dismissing spells.

"You can issue any command you choose, short of an activity that would result in certain death."

Does this mean the activity can or cannot be to kill another person?

Or is this restriction only in reference to the death of the target of the Geas?

And how do you pronounce Geas?

Thank you!

One thing that isn't explicitly written, but I am hoping is an implied usage of the spell, is that telling anyone else you are under the effect of a Geas or directly trying to hint them towards the fact that you are, should also trigger the psychic damage (ex: being told to secretly poison the king's chalice doesn't mean they can't *also* prohibit you from letting anyone know you're being charmed into doing so).

The spell becomes a lot less fun if someone can just say "hoo boy I've been enchanted to do this bad thing tonight via the Geas spell- golly geez I hope no one stops me or has the remove curse spell handy".

I figure it's something you put on commoners, or low level characters. NPCs without death saving throws, so if it's enough to bring someone to 0HP they're gone.

Side note, it makes a fun spell for a PC backstory secret. That your PC is under the effect of a Geas from some other NPC, something which they would LOVE to tell the party about.... however, if they in any way they are perceived as trying to tell someone or draw attention to it, they're immediately psychically killed.

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Darn. There goes my idea to issue a geas: "do not obey this geas."