Would Metamagic: Twinned Spell affect this spell? (2024 Rules)

Twinned Spell

 

Cost: 1 Sorcery Point

When you cast a spell, such as Charm Person, that can be cast with a higher-level spell slot to target an additional creature, you can spend 1 Sorcery Point to increase the spell’s effective level by 1.

I would allow it at my table as a DM, however RAW I don’t believe that interaction was intended because the spell can’t be upcast to target additional creatures.

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I would allow it at my table as a DM, however RAW I don’t believe that interaction was intended because the spell can’t be upcast to target additional creatures.

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Would Metamagic: Twinned Spell affect this spell? (2024 Rules)

Twinned Spell

 

Cost: 1 Sorcery Point

When you cast a spell, such as Charm Person, that can be cast with a higher-level spell slot to target an additional creature, you can spend 1 Sorcery Point to increase the spell’s effective level by 1.

 IDK

I'm giving this to a random shopkeeper to kill shoplifters as a reference to Link's Awakening

I think yes.  Casting at higher level allows you to target an additional creature. 

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Would Metamagic: Twinned Spell affect this spell? (2024 Rules)

Twinned Spell

 

Cost: 1 Sorcery Point

When you cast a spell, such as Charm Person, that can be cast with a higher-level spell slot to target an additional creature, you can spend 1 Sorcery Point to increase the spell’s effective level by 1.

 I’d actually say no consider RAW says “such as Charm Person… to target AN additional creature”

The spell’s intention is to target 1 additional creature with a spell that typically only targets 1 by default, but *can* be upcast to target more. Afaik. I’d probably allow it in the moment 🤷‍♂️

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Would Metamagic: Twinned Spell affect this spell? (2024 Rules)

Twinned Spell

 

Cost: 1 Sorcery Point

When you cast a spell, such as Charm Person, that can be cast with a higher-level spell slot to target an additional creature, you can spend 1 Sorcery Point to increase the spell’s effective level by 1.

 I’d actually say no consider RAW says “such as Charm Person… to target AN additional creature”

The spell’s intention is to target 1 additional creature with a spell that typically only targets 1 by default, but *can* be upcast to target more. Afaik. I’d probably allow it in the moment 🤷‍♂️

 Personally, I think it counts. Technically, you aren't targeting an additional creature for the main effect, but given how both main and secondary targets receive identical effects' I think that's semantics. In addition, nowhere does it say that the original intention of Twinned spell is to affect only spells that by default only target one creature. That's just assumed because that's how the example they chose works. As a matter of fact, there are several support or utility spells this was blatantly designed to help that target multiple people.

Finally, if you can upcast charm person and still use twinned spell to affect even more creatures, I don't see why not for chain lightning. Especially considering that a 6th level fireball almost as much damage anyway.

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In addition, nowhere does it say that the original intention of Twinned spell is to affect only spells that by default only target one creature. That's just assumed because that's how the example they chose works. As a matter of fact, there are several support or utility spells this was blatantly designed to help that target multiple people.

Yeah, that was a restriction on the 2014 version of Twinned Spell that was very specifically and deliberately removed from the 2024 version.

Whether this spell counts is sort of an open question due to its wording, but the 2024 Twinned Spell definitely is not limited to spells that already only affect one target.