Although what happens if this site closes down or you have no internet access?
The app is in development right now and I'm confident in Curse that they are going to deliver on it. They have a really great track record and the devs have been amazing during the beta. Once it's out, we'll have offline access in addition to online access. If it were online only, I would have some reservations. If the site closes down, I don't know what would happen. Again, I have faith in the team.
Badeye is downplaying quite a bit and understandably so, but if you read through the lines in some of the posts it's obvious that he or she (not sure of Badeye's gender) went to bat for the community and fought hard to get the prices down. Significantly down. That fact got lost in the uproar about cost and will probably be swept under the rug which is really unfortunate because it is a demonstration through action of the team's commitment to giving the community what it deserves while maintaining a sustainable business plan. They seem to genuinely care about the game and the community as much as they care about making DnDB a successful product.
The books do not require power to use and honestly, it doesn't take that long to search a book for something if you are familiar with the rules and layout of said book.
Books are great and I hear you on being able to search around it with relative ease once you've read it multiple times. That being said, DnDB completely blows that out of the water. It's lightning fast, so it takes seconds - literally seconds - to look something up. That includes rarely used things, like how much a gallon of ale costs or a hunk of cheese. There's also those in the moment things - if I blank on what the Frightened condition does when someone casts a spell that does that, I can look up the spell and then just hover over Frightened.
If you're a DM or someone who likes to tinker, the metadata is what the books don't have and that's the feature I most love. I don't have to fill out spreadsheets of data on magic items when I'm homebrewing things and making custom monsters is a lot faster with the spell metadata.
It may not be for you and it may not be for other people. If the books are working for you, awesome. I think there's huge value in it.
That is pretty great. I am not trying to rag on DND Beyond, simply trying to understand it as I am late to knowing about it. (I didn't participate in any of the Betas). It seems like it has its benefits. I am mostly a Dm, so I see how useful the things your are pointing out really are. Thank you for the civil discussion.
Do you know what exactly comes with the purchase of a campaign?
The entire campaign written digitally with chapters linked
All text tool tipped with monster/item/rules liked and with hover over information
All original artwork and high res maps
All monsters, items, spells, etc. that have been created for that adventure included in the listings beside all other content
And access to any future products that they release that include that information. I am lead to believe that when the encounter builder comes out that all encounters in the books will be pre created for you, however that last part may need to be confirmed
That actually does seem worth it, especially if purchased first week when things are on sale.
I agree, for a well-established table, this is a boon. Although not all tables are as such and banking on it working out like that is unrealistic. I believe you can share content with 12 free accounts, if you are a master subscriber. If you can find 12 people who would pitch in then, yes this content would cost next to nothing. I'm not fully out on DND Beyond I'm just not sure if its for me yet.
I agree with you that the price splitting thing is really only realistic for long-time tables. Like I said, it may not be for you and you may prefer the books. I believe the time saved looking things up is nice.
Now that I know you're a DM, I think that DnDB has the potential to be a godsend, just as it is, thanks to the ease of looking up spells, items, monster stats, etc. Everything being linked together makes it flow so much quicker. Once the encounter builder and campaign manager gets into full swing, I think it's going to be a steal.
I also appreciate the civil discussion, I try to keep it even keeled as much as possible and I hope that's how it came across. You framed your questions and responses in a respectful way, so I didn't take it as you ragging on it.
Since you're new here and haven't been a part of the beta, I will tell you anecdotally that Badeye and the dev team have made so many changes from where it was on Day 1 based on feedback from the community. You can go back through the old feedback posts and see where someone made a good suggestion and then it appeared in DnDB. I've said it, I've seen others say it, and I'll say it again - this was one of the best beta experiences I've had.
I agree, for a well-established table, this is a boon. Although not all tables are as such and banking on it working out like that is unrealistic. I believe you can share content with 12 free accounts, if you are a master subscriber. If you can find 12 people who would pitch in then, yes this content would cost next to nothing. I'm not fully out on DND Beyond I'm just not sure if its for me yet.
...Now that I know you're a DM, I think that DnDB has the potential to be a godsend, just as it is, thanks to the ease of looking up spells, items, monster stats, etc. Everything being linked together makes it flow so much quicker. Once the encounter builder and campaign manager gets into full swing, I think it's going to be a steal.
I also appreciate the civil discussion, I try to keep it even keeled as much as possible and I hope that's how it came across. You framed your questions and responses in a respectful way, so I didn't take it as you ragging on it.....
It did, I searched through the homebrew content and actually might be coming around to DND Beyond. If the ease of access that I currently see while browsing the site is prevalent in all purchased content then I might just be a believer. $60 first week for all core books is really not that bad.
I do understand what you are saying, maybe I'm just an old man. Although what happens if this site closes down or you have no internet access? The books do not require power to use and honestly, it doesn't take that long to search a book for something if you are familiar with the rules and layout of said book. That being said I can see a benefit to sharing said content with multiple people, I have run into my fair share of groups that don't have a book among them.
I asked this question to Badeye. His response made me confidant that even if D&D evolves (a new edition comes out), D&D Beyond will be right there evolving with it. You have to remember that Curse is a part of Amazon, so unless Amazon caves... D&D Beyond is going to be around for a long time.
They're here for the long haul. D&D has evolved and D&D Beyond will be right there as D&D continues through its iterations.
You have to remember that Curse is a part of Amazon, so unless Amazon caves...
Oh neat, Amazon is coming to Australia, so does that mean I can go into an Amazon store and buy physical copies of D&D Beyond? And do I then get a discount on the PHB from WotC?
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You have to remember that Curse is a part of Amazon, so unless Amazon caves...
Oh neat, Amazon is coming to Australia, so does that mean I can go into an Amazon store and buy physical copies of D&D Beyond? And do I then get a discount on the PHB from WotC?
You have to remember that Curse is a part of Amazon, so unless Amazon caves...
Oh neat, Amazon is coming to Australia, so does that mean I can go into an Amazon store and buy physical copies of D&D Beyond? And do I then get a discount on the PHB from WotC?
I love your work, Dropbear! Aussie satire at its finest :)
I've tried looking but 68 pages is a lot. I see that you can buy parts from the source books, but I don't see the same for the adventures. As I have the adventures is there a way to just by the creatures and magic items from the adventures without buying the whole adventure? Or do you have to buy each component (spell/monster etc.) seperately?
I've tried looking but 68 pages is a lot. I see that you can buy parts from the source books, but I don't see the same for the adventures. As I have the adventures is there a way to just by the creatures and magic items from the adventures without buying the whole adventure? Or do you have to buy each component (spell/monster etc.) seperately?
Good Question. I am not sure that has been raised before.
Quick question, Do we have a time, or at least a time zone for release? We see August 15, which is awesome (can't wait!), but is this a US West Coast project? Will I, being on the east coast, wake up Tuesday morning and it be there, ready to go (say 8 AM)? Will I be waiting until noon, or even noon Pacific (3 PM here)?
As surely you know your customer base is worldwide, and while not everyone may want that access at the earliest possible moment, I'm curious and I'm sure others are as well, if there is a time (or estimate) to be available.
Anything would work, even as vague as morning/afternoon/evening and the time zone in which that reflects (GMT -7, -4, 0?)
Quick question, Do we have a time, or at least a time zone for release?
No :(
I asked this earlier as I probably won't have enough money until literally the day the core book sale ends so with timezones between US & Australia, I really, really want to know what timezone they'll be basing the release on, and therefore what time, exactly, the discount will end.
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The Master Tier sub comes with 12 campaign content sharing slots. The DM can extend that invite to 12 different players each with 1 character apiece, 4 different players each with 3 characters apiece, etc.
Most of the stuff about sharing with the master tier has talked about players, so I assumed that they would essentially have the same access to purchased content as the DM. But if it's done on a character by character basis, how will that work? Does that mean that they will only have access to the purchased materials while doing character creation for the specific character in the campaign? It's not clear to me how anything outside of the PHB, PC races from VGtM, SCAG, and the magic items from the DMG could even be shared if this was the case.
The Master Tier sub comes with 12 campaign content sharing slots. The DM can extend that invite to 12 different players each with 1 character apiece, 4 different players each with 3 characters apiece, etc.
Most of the stuff about sharing with the master tier has talked about players, so I assumed that they would essentially have the same access to purchased content as the DM. But if it's done on a character by character basis, how will that work? Does that mean that they will only have access to the purchased materials while doing character creation for the specific character in the campaign? It's not clear to me how anything outside of the PHB, PC races from VGtM, SCAG, and the magic items from the DMG could even be shared if this was the case.
The players who have the characters in the campaign get access to the compendium (able to read/search the shared books). However, only the character in the campaign can use the tool-sets (the character builder, add the magic items, add the extra spells, etc.).
Quick question, Do we have a time, or at least a time zone for release? We see August 15, which is awesome (can't wait!), but is this a US West Coast project? Will I, being on the east coast, wake up Tuesday morning and it be there, ready to go (say 8 AM)? Will I be waiting until noon, or even noon Pacific (3 PM here)?
As surely you know your customer base is worldwide, and while not everyone may want that access at the earliest possible moment, I'm curious and I'm sure others are as well, if there is a time (or estimate) to be available.
Anything would work, even as vague as morning/afternoon/evening and the time zone in which that reflects (GMT -7, -4, 0?)
I say midnight release EST, we can stay up late Monday. You with me on that?
The Master Tier sub comes with 12 campaign content sharing slots. The DM can extend that invite to 12 different players each with 1 character apiece, 4 different players each with 3 characters apiece, etc.
Most of the stuff about sharing with the master tier has talked about players, so I assumed that they would essentially have the same access to purchased content as the DM. But if it's done on a character by character basis, how will that work? Does that mean that they will only have access to the purchased materials while doing character creation for the specific character in the campaign? It's not clear to me how anything outside of the PHB, PC races from VGtM, SCAG, and the magic items from the DMG could even be shared if this was the case.
If you are invited in a Master Tier campaign (and you accept), you will have access to all the shared material, Compendium and toolset.
The Master Tier sub comes with 12 campaign content sharing slots. The DM can extend that invite to 12 different players each with 1 character apiece, 4 different players each with 3 characters apiece, etc.
Most of the stuff about sharing with the master tier has talked about players, so I assumed that they would essentially have the same access to purchased content as the DM. But if it's done on a character by character basis, how will that work? Does that mean that they will only have access to the purchased materials while doing character creation for the specific character in the campaign? It's not clear to me how anything outside of the PHB, PC races from VGtM, SCAG, and the magic items from the DMG could even be shared if this was the case.
The players who have the characters in the campaign get access to the compendium (able to read/search the shared books). However, only the character in the campaign can use the tool-sets (the character builder, add the magic items, add the extra spells, etc.).
Are people with Hero Tier subscriptions still excluded from these counts?
The Master Tier sub comes with 12 campaign content sharing slots. The DM can extend that invite to 12 different players each with 1 character apiece, 4 different players each with 3 characters apiece, etc.
Most of the stuff about sharing with the master tier has talked about players, so I assumed that they would essentially have the same access to purchased content as the DM. But if it's done on a character by character basis, how will that work? Does that mean that they will only have access to the purchased materials while doing character creation for the specific character in the campaign? It's not clear to me how anything outside of the PHB, PC races from VGtM, SCAG, and the magic items from the DMG could even be shared if this was the case.
The players who have the characters in the campaign get access to the compendium (able to read/search the shared books). However, only the character in the campaign can use the tool-sets (the character builder, add the magic items, add the extra spells, etc.).
Are people with Hero Tier subscriptions still excluded from these counts?
In a campaign created by a Master Tier owner, the other players can be free users, and still use the shared material, of the others and their own.
Quick question, Do we have a time, or at least a time zone for release? We see August 15, which is awesome (can't wait!), but is this a US West Coast project? Will I, being on the east coast, wake up Tuesday morning and it be there, ready to go (say 8 AM)? Will I be waiting until noon, or even noon Pacific (3 PM here)?
As surely you know your customer base is worldwide, and while not everyone may want that access at the earliest possible moment, I'm curious and I'm sure others are as well, if there is a time (or estimate) to be available.
Anything would work, even as vague as morning/afternoon/evening and the time zone in which that reflects (GMT -7, -4, 0?)
I say midnight release EST, we can stay up late Monday. You with me on that?
That's the problem -- as one who fell victim to WoW BC midnight release on the east coast to return home only to find out the servers weren't up yet, as it went live midnight PST I don't want to get burned like that again, ever, with anything haha.
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I've tried looking but 68 pages is a lot. I see that you can buy parts from the source books, but I don't see the same for the adventures. As I have the adventures is there a way to just by the creatures and magic items from the adventures without buying the whole adventure? Or do you have to buy each component (spell/monster etc.) seperately?
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Quick question, Do we have a time, or at least a time zone for release? We see August 15, which is awesome (can't wait!), but is this a US West Coast project? Will I, being on the east coast, wake up Tuesday morning and it be there, ready to go (say 8 AM)? Will I be waiting until noon, or even noon Pacific (3 PM here)?
As surely you know your customer base is worldwide, and while not everyone may want that access at the earliest possible moment, I'm curious and I'm sure others are as well, if there is a time (or estimate) to be available.
Anything would work, even as vague as morning/afternoon/evening and the time zone in which that reflects (GMT -7, -4, 0?)
How do you get a one-armed goblin out of a tree?
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I asked this earlier as I probably won't have enough money until literally the day the core book sale ends so with timezones between US & Australia, I really, really want to know what timezone they'll be basing the release on, and therefore what time, exactly, the discount will end.
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I saw something on the Staff Quotes Thread that gave me pause.
Most of the stuff about sharing with the master tier has talked about players, so I assumed that they would essentially have the same access to purchased content as the DM. But if it's done on a character by character basis, how will that work? Does that mean that they will only have access to the purchased materials while doing character creation for the specific character in the campaign? It's not clear to me how anything outside of the PHB, PC races from VGtM, SCAG, and the magic items from the DMG could even be shared if this was the case.
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