So two quick ideas about character class pages, I had the thought as I went to go look up stuff on the wizard.
1) Could subclasses be arranged not by alphabetical order, but order by sources first? So like, if arcane traditions are a section, each most-recent source (PHB, XGtE, UA, etc.) used can be a subsection, to show everyone where it is found. Most importantly is Unearthed Arcana since it is unofficial material; DnDBeyond does a good job of highlighting that at the top, but it is a little odd that School of Invention is just in among the list of official subclasses, sandwiched between core book materials.
1.5) Is there any way that homebrew subclasses added into your homebrew collections could also appear on character pages, under a homebrew subsection? Just a tangent consideration.
2) Could we add a (preferably comprehensive) spell list to each class page? It would be amazing to have one source that has *all* official spells available in one place, sorted first by level, then by most recent source, then by alphabet. That way we wouldn't have to go digging up two different sources to see all available spells at a new level. This would be ESPECIALLY useful for Arcane Tricksters and Eldritch Knights, if made with the assumption (and maybe a note) that the list only includes spells from the available schools (enchantment & illusion, abjuration & evocation respectfully), and so for the levels when you can take spells from any school you still need to go to the wizard list. So, for example, this might be what the wizard class page spell list looks like for spell level 4;
4th Level
Arcane Eye (divination)
Banishment (abjuration)
Blight (necromancy)
Confusion (enchantment)
Conjure Minor Elementals (conjuration)
Control Water (transmutation)
Dimension Door (conjuration)
Evard’s Black Tentacles (conjuration)
Fabricate (transmutation)
Fire Shield (evocation)
Greater Invisibility (illusion)
Hallucinatory Terrain (illusion)
Ice Storm (evocation)
Leomund’s Secret Chest (conjuration)
Locate Creature (divination)
Mordenkainen’s Faithful Hound (conjuration)
Mordenkainen’s Private Sanctum (abjuration)
Otiluke’s Resilient Sphere (evocation)
Phantasmal Killer (illusion)
Polymorph (transmutation)
Stone Shape (transmutation)
Stoneskin (abjuration)
Wall of Fire (evocation)
Charm monster (enchantment) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Elemental bane (transmutation) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Shadow of moil (necromancy) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Sickening radiance (evocation) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Summon greater demon (conjuration) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
I can understand the value in what you're requesting, but personally keeping the subclasses alphabetical is far more valuable in my opinion. That's an ease of navigation that source-sorting would remove entirely. Listing the source in the subclass text would be nice though.
Well, wizards are a good example, they have 11 subclasses. Let's say I'm reading the wizard class page to plan out a new character I'm building. Part of that planning is deciding what subclass I'll go into. So I'm reading School of Evocation, then onto War Magic, then Bladesinging. If sorted alphabetically, reaching the desired subclass is straightforward and simple to scroll. If sorted by source, I'm doing one of three things. I'm either scrolling randomly and more slowly up or down hoping I quickly find the subclass I'm looking for, scrolling all the way to the top to get the drop-down list which won't be in an immediately logical and discernible sort, or memorize where each subclass is sourced from and the order of those sources.
Either way, I get to the content I want, but an alphabetical order is almost always quicker and more intuitive.
The list, when using pages in browser, stick to the left side of the screen, so switching between subclasses requires no searching at all. All you would have to do is select a source, and then choose from the drop-down.
That's assuming your browser is wide enough for the left-side list to appear. So mobile users, tablet users, users that don't have large enough monitors, or users that are multi-tasking or split-screening because they're using D&D Beyond while playing will not have that visible.
Considering how large mobile use is these days, and the intended use of this site, the vast majority of users will not see it.
In terms of the spell lists, you can create these lists on the fly in the spell listings, so I'm not sure it's worth the effort to reproduce that on the class page. What would be nice, though, would be the ability to save compiles listing filters as a link or the like, for quick access.
In terms of the spell lists, you can create these lists on the fly in the spell listings, so I'm. It sure it's worth the effort to reproduce that on the class page. What would be nice, though, would be the ability to save compiles listing filters as a link or the like, for quick access.
While maybe not as ideal as you might be requesting, you can do that on your own. Copy the link into your character's notes or save a shortcut to your computer. The latter is what I have done for the Sorcerer player in my campaign, just so I can bring it up every now and then and remind myself what she is capable of now and possibly in the future.
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So two quick ideas about character class pages, I had the thought as I went to go look up stuff on the wizard.
1) Could subclasses be arranged not by alphabetical order, but order by sources first? So like, if arcane traditions are a section, each most-recent source (PHB, XGtE, UA, etc.) used can be a subsection, to show everyone where it is found. Most importantly is Unearthed Arcana since it is unofficial material; DnDBeyond does a good job of highlighting that at the top, but it is a little odd that School of Invention is just in among the list of official subclasses, sandwiched between core book materials.
1.5) Is there any way that homebrew subclasses added into your homebrew collections could also appear on character pages, under a homebrew subsection? Just a tangent consideration.
2) Could we add a (preferably comprehensive) spell list to each class page? It would be amazing to have one source that has *all* official spells available in one place, sorted first by level, then by most recent source, then by alphabet. That way we wouldn't have to go digging up two different sources to see all available spells at a new level. This would be ESPECIALLY useful for Arcane Tricksters and Eldritch Knights, if made with the assumption (and maybe a note) that the list only includes spells from the available schools (enchantment & illusion, abjuration & evocation respectfully), and so for the levels when you can take spells from any school you still need to go to the wizard list. So, for example, this might be what the wizard class page spell list looks like for spell level 4;
4th Level
Arcane Eye (divination)
Banishment (abjuration)
Blight (necromancy)
Confusion (enchantment)
Conjure Minor Elementals (conjuration)
Control Water (transmutation)
Dimension Door (conjuration)
Evard’s Black Tentacles (conjuration)
Fabricate (transmutation)
Fire Shield (evocation)
Greater Invisibility (illusion)
Hallucinatory Terrain (illusion)
Ice Storm (evocation)
Leomund’s Secret Chest (conjuration)
Locate Creature (divination)
Mordenkainen’s Faithful Hound (conjuration)
Mordenkainen’s Private Sanctum (abjuration)
Otiluke’s Resilient Sphere (evocation)
Phantasmal Killer (illusion)
Polymorph (transmutation)
Stone Shape (transmutation)
Stoneskin (abjuration)
Wall of Fire (evocation)
Charm monster (enchantment) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Elemental bane (transmutation) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Shadow of moil (necromancy) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Sickening radiance (evocation) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Summon greater demon (conjuration) [Xanathar's Guide to Everything]
Sorry, dumb, but I don't know how to make this a 'request' prefix.
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ModeratorI can understand the value in what you're requesting, but personally keeping the subclasses alphabetical is far more valuable in my opinion. That's an ease of navigation that source-sorting would remove entirely. Listing the source in the subclass text would be nice though.
Really? Why do you find alphabet easier to navigate? Just curious, I don't personally see how it would be any more difficult.
Follow-up question, what would you say to keeping all official subclasses in alphabetical, but putting UA in their own section?
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ModeratorWell, wizards are a good example, they have 11 subclasses. Let's say I'm reading the wizard class page to plan out a new character I'm building. Part of that planning is deciding what subclass I'll go into. So I'm reading School of Evocation, then onto War Magic, then Bladesinging. If sorted alphabetically, reaching the desired subclass is straightforward and simple to scroll. If sorted by source, I'm doing one of three things. I'm either scrolling randomly and more slowly up or down hoping I quickly find the subclass I'm looking for, scrolling all the way to the top to get the drop-down list which won't be in an immediately logical and discernible sort, or memorize where each subclass is sourced from and the order of those sources.
Either way, I get to the content I want, but an alphabetical order is almost always quicker and more intuitive.
The list, when using pages in browser, stick to the left side of the screen, so switching between subclasses requires no searching at all. All you would have to do is select a source, and then choose from the drop-down.
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ModeratorThat's assuming your browser is wide enough for the left-side list to appear. So mobile users, tablet users, users that don't have large enough monitors, or users that are multi-tasking or split-screening because they're using D&D Beyond while playing will not have that visible.
Considering how large mobile use is these days, and the intended use of this site, the vast majority of users will not see it.
Ah; that's fair.
In terms of the spell lists, you can create these lists on the fly in the spell listings, so I'm not sure it's worth the effort to reproduce that on the class page. What would be nice, though, would be the ability to save compiles listing filters as a link or the like, for quick access.
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ModeratorWhile maybe not as ideal as you might be requesting, you can do that on your own. Copy the link into your character's notes or save a shortcut to your computer. The latter is what I have done for the Sorcerer player in my campaign, just so I can bring it up every now and then and remind myself what she is capable of now and possibly in the future.