Like let's be real, D&D beyond has plenty of support and after buying these books a second time over, I'd like prolific OLD issues like this to at least get some attention.
This is the thing that gets me. People talk about the website like it's some tiny little skunkworks coding project, but it really isn't. DnDBeyond is basically the place to buy digital copies of the DnD books. They even got the approval to use the official WotC iconography for their DnD logo. For this being one of the biggest DnD sites on the internet and with the official nod they've gotten from the creators, and with all the money people have sunk into it, it really doesn't feel like we're asking a ton of them when we say "hey, can you just make that drop down on the custom item page actually work now?"
I've made several posts going into great detail about all the problems this site has, ways to fix them, and why/how the changes would benefit official stuff as much as it would homebrew (Example). I was staring at the forums today contemplating making yet another post about how bad Content Sharing is. Honestly, i don't know what to do any more. Between the shills who are so ready to go to bat for DDB/Fandom, and the admins not even responding half the time, i feel like beating my head against this wall has gotten us nowhere. This is one of the first immediate issues i encountered while using this site, and one of the earliest bug posts on the entire forum.
I know that the team is comprised of real people, who have real underlying software problems with this site, and real deadlines, and real corporate bosses breathing down their necks. I know that they make literally no money from fixing these issues. But i know how much money i personally have sunk into this website, and as just a single DM, i can only imagine how much every other nerd just as or even more sweaty than i am has sunk into it too. The people who use these tools are the people who pay this companies bills. The majority of users on this site are casuals who don't pay a cent, yet they use metrics influenced by that majority to make development decisions?
It just baffles me. Im back on this thread again. Yet another year has passed. And a simple field choice that links to existing code has not been added. This thread stands as a monument to everything wrong with this website. Everything from the simplicity of the request, the frequency of it being asked for, and the inaction of whoever makes decisions at the top of this site.
Perhaps we're shouting into the wrong cave here. Perhaps we'll have better luck shouting on the Generic Features System Feedback Portal. "head on over to our new Generic Features System Feedback Portaland let us know what you think and what is important to you." In the upper right-hand corner, there is a button marked "Submit idea".
Perhaps we're shouting into the wrong cave here. Perhaps we'll have better luck shouting on the Generic Features System Feedback Portal. "head on over to our new Generic Features System Feedback Portaland let us know what you think and what is important to you." In the upper right-hand corner, there is a button marked "Submit idea".
I have just machine gunned every request i had into that. We'll see how it goes then. If its anything like the trello or zendesk, it probably wont mean much.
This thread is older than you membership on the site. That link doesnt mean anything. Its nothing more than a publicity stunt to try to quell the fanbase, and like the trello board, it rings hollow.
Kinda wishing I'd read the forums *Before* shelling out all the money I did. If I'd seen that they're taking 4 years to still not fix quality of life bugs ....
Yeah coz the inconvenience of just adding a custom action/item is just so big that the rest of hundreds of features and the easiest character sheet available on the internet is just diminished.
/sarcasm
You can already do it two different ways, maybe stop complaining about the lack of a third way. They've got bigger and better stuff to work on.
If you want to say "I'd like this", please do. But complaining about it is trashy.
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Yeah coz the inconvenience of just adding a custom action/item is just so big that the rest of hundreds of features and the easiest character sheet available on the internet is just diminished.
/sarcasm
You can already do it two different ways, maybe stop complaining about the lack of a third way. They've got bigger and better stuff to work on.
If you want to say "I'd like this", please do. But complaining about it is trashy.
Those "two different ways" are fan-made workarounds because this bug has not been fixed. This is the forum to report bugs in the system. This feature is not working correctly and is therefore a bug. A bug that was first reported to the Dev team in 2017 and has not been fixed in over 3.5 years. "I'd like this" is for new features, not for features that are already in the system but not working correctly. Until someone from the company speaks out about this issue, we have every right to complain about a bug in the system.
Yeah coz the inconvenience of just adding a custom action/item is just so big that the rest of hundreds of features and the easiest character sheet available on the internet is just diminished.
/sarcasm
You can already do it two different ways, maybe stop complaining about the lack of a third way. They've got bigger and better stuff to work on.
If you want to say "I'd like this", please do. But complaining about it is trashy.
Those "two different ways" are fan-made workarounds because this bug has not been fixed. This is the forum to report bugs in the system. This feature is not working correctly and is therefore a bug. A bug that was first reported to the Dev team in 2017 and has not been fixed in over 3.5 years. "I'd like this" is for new features, not for features that are already in the system but not working correctly. Until someone from the company speaks out about this issue, we have every right to complain about a bug in the system.
One of the methods actually was NOT a fan-made workaround. It was a system deliberately added to the sheet so you could do precisely these types of ad hoc additions.
Want to add an action to represent extra damage from an exploding arrow? You can do it. Want to add a custom inventory item to track how many you have? You can do it. Want a weapon that does 2d10 slashing damage and uses Intelligence instead of strength or dex? You can do it. All right there on your sheet - a system deliberately designed to do this and as a response to this thread.
You're complaining for something you can do already.
Since you can already do it using a system the devs implemented for this purpose, any extra ways are going to be extremely low priority no matter how much you complain. Because there are much better things to work on. Saying you want the feature or to do something in a way you find more preferable, like in this case, is all fine and dandy. Complaining, is just being disrespectful. They're hard at work doing things of much greater importance for much greater benefit and do not have time to add a slightly way of doing something you can already do. This should be understood and respected.
I have no qualms with people wanting this feature or even being a tad impatient. My issue, if it can be called that, is when people get all demanding and rude about it like this is some super massive thing. Those people are like customers who order a pint of beer in a bar and get handed two half-pint glasses. You've still got your pint, Karen, it's just not in the precise presentation you want, but it's still a pint all the same.
You have the ability to homebrew weapons and ammo of all kinds directly on your sheet. So don't act like you're being denied something huge.
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While yes this may be true, it brings up a problem mentioned before. A large amount of people playing dont always know how to do those things on their character sheets. And while yes it is possible to explain it to a single person, giving the same walkthrough speech to multiple player in multiple parties at multiple different points in time can get extreamly tedious. Of the 6 campaigns/adventures I've DM'd for with each one having a minimum of 4 players i wanted to baja blast my brains out after explaininh how the players can make custom items on their character sheets. Additionally it makes me look like a shit dm telling the player to make their own magic ammo or weapon. Also i reuse alot of common magic items between groups so yes i want the convince of just saying "search for 'Frost Arrows' under the equipment menu" instead of explaining how to modifiy a seperste grouping of arrows.
Its not like this system is free either. I pay for my books and my Hero/DM tier subscription. I dont receive physical books so i expect the website im supporting to have the decency to fix a bug thats been around for 3.5 years. Even more so because it seems like its already an option but the just a SINGLE drop down menu that needs adjusting/adding to for this issue to go away. Dont forget the entire ducking issue stems from selecting an anmunition item as a base for a hombrew and it requiring you to select a weapon type from the weapons drop down tab and the same ammo based item is not included in that tab.
This isn't a "we'd like this feature" though. This is "thing we can select from drop down doesn't work when we try to click Save," which makes it a bug. On a forum for bug reports, this definitely counts.
Telling players to just create their own magic items is not really something you should have to do as a DM. I can create all manner of other home brew items to give to my party, so why are these special?
If they want the workarounds to be the only way to do it, then just take the custom ammunition out of the drop down, and the "bug" becomes a "feature request." Otherwise, as someone who has spent hundreds of dollars on this site in both source materials and membership costs, I feel like it's kind of crappy to say "there are workarounds, stop reporting this bug."
I feel like it's kind of crappy to say "there are workarounds, stop reporting this bug."
Agreed it would be crappy. Which is why not a single person is telling you to not post. All anyone is asking for, is you want to post do so respectfully.
All I am saying is if you're posting to say you want this - feel free, but doing so complaining is disrespectful especially when trying to say it invalidates everything else.
Just as a recap, though:
People: "I want to be able to make custom mundane items and ammo so I can track them more easily on my sheet."
D&D Beyond: "We understand. Here you go, you can now do this. It's on your sheet, and we'll consider a tool for making them off sheet when we have time."
People who post without complaint: "Thank you, understandable. I'll just add I too would like that tool, in case it helps you to know we would still like that."
The Complainers my posts are about: "**** this, it's been years, this is trash, we can't do anything, we want it NOW, **wahh**"
The Complainers are acting like it is something denied to them that they're entitled to. They are like the "Karen" stereotype. They fail to realise they have the means to do exactly what they want, they don't know or care about priority and are disrespectful to the D&D Beyond devs and the work they do.
Whether you are somebody who "posts without complaint" or are like the "complainers" I am referencing, is your decision. If you feel like you are not like the complainers I specifically describe - then my posts are not about you.
Also note: people going "I would really like this too and I'm a bit annoyed at how long it is taking for this, with no update from devs" - are also fine and not the people I am posting about.
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That's a lot of words to complain about complaining, cybermind. This thread addresses a software bug that interferes with the intended function of the software. I pay for the software. So . . . absolutely yes . . . I am "entitled" to have reasonable steps taken to deliver the fully functional software for which I pay. This bug is way past reasonable.
It's a feature they advertise, and the ability to add homebrew content as a DM that you can share with your campaign players is definitely a feature they use to market and sell their subscription service and the platform as a whole. If the digital dice were locked up behind the subscription paywall but the D8 didn't work, people would rightfully complain about that too, even though you could tell them "there's plenty of workarounds, just roll a D8 in real life, just roll a D10 and reroll 9's and 10's, etc. stop complaining!"
Being able to homebrew ammo is no more a necessity than being able to homebrew any other item, but they advertise those DM-created, campaign shared homebrew items as reasons you should use (and pay for) their platform. For those of us that have been paying for it for a couple years now, it would really be nice to see the bug get fixed because I do actually use custom ammo in my games.
That's a lot of words to complain about complaining, cybermind. This thread addresses a software bug that interferes with the intended function of the software. I pay for the software. So . . . absolutely yes . . . I am "entitled" to have reasonable steps taken to deliver the fully functional software for which I pay. This bug is way past reasonable.
It's weird how many people think "entitled" is a bad thing, right? If you pay for something, you're entitled to it. Literally the entire modern economy is built on the idea that exchanging money for goods and services means you are entitled to get those goods and services.
Interesting... the post tag seems to have changed from "Bug" to "Request." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that functionality that's already available, but doesn't work as intended (e.g. having a dropdown for custom arrows but not having an actual selectable Ammunition category) is considered a bug. On the other hand, functionality that does not exist yet, but is asked for seems more like a request...
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THIS^^^^
I've made several posts going into great detail about all the problems this site has, ways to fix them, and why/how the changes would benefit official stuff as much as it would homebrew (Example). I was staring at the forums today contemplating making yet another post about how bad Content Sharing is. Honestly, i don't know what to do any more. Between the shills who are so ready to go to bat for DDB/Fandom, and the admins not even responding half the time, i feel like beating my head against this wall has gotten us nowhere. This is one of the first immediate issues i encountered while using this site, and one of the earliest bug posts on the entire forum.
I know that the team is comprised of real people, who have real underlying software problems with this site, and real deadlines, and real corporate bosses breathing down their necks. I know that they make literally no money from fixing these issues. But i know how much money i personally have sunk into this website, and as just a single DM, i can only imagine how much every other nerd just as or even more sweaty than i am has sunk into it too. The people who use these tools are the people who pay this companies bills. The majority of users on this site are casuals who don't pay a cent, yet they use metrics influenced by that majority to make development decisions?
It just baffles me. Im back on this thread again. Yet another year has passed. And a simple field choice that links to existing code has not been added. This thread stands as a monument to everything wrong with this website. Everything from the simplicity of the request, the frequency of it being asked for, and the inaction of whoever makes decisions at the top of this site.
Perhaps we're shouting into the wrong cave here. Perhaps we'll have better luck shouting on the Generic Features System Feedback Portal.
"head on over to our new Generic Features System Feedback Portal and let us know what you think and what is important to you."
In the upper right-hand corner, there is a button marked "Submit idea".
They already know about this issue. Aside from this long thread post, a feature request has already been posted about it on their Zendesk support site here: https://dndbeyond.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360020657154-Create-homebrew-magic-ammunition. The staff marked it as planned, but that was years ago. I don't think that will help honestly.
I have just machine gunned every request i had into that. We'll see how it goes then. If its anything like the trello or zendesk, it probably wont mean much.
This thread is older than you membership on the site. That link doesnt mean anything. Its nothing more than a publicity stunt to try to quell the fanbase, and like the trello board, it rings hollow.
44.5 months since this bug was first reported, and counting.
Still seems to be broken for me unfortunately.
Hi
I am sure they will fix within the 1st year after 6e is out.
I think 6e is already in the process of coming out with how all these recent books are updating the rules, maybe not 6e but 5.5e lol
Kinda wishing I'd read the forums *Before* shelling out all the money I did. If I'd seen that they're taking 4 years to still not fix quality of life bugs ....
Yeah coz the inconvenience of just adding a custom action/item is just so big that the rest of hundreds of features and the easiest character sheet available on the internet is just diminished.
/sarcasm
You can already do it two different ways, maybe stop complaining about the lack of a third way. They've got bigger and better stuff to work on.
If you want to say "I'd like this", please do. But complaining about it is trashy.
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Those "two different ways" are fan-made workarounds because this bug has not been fixed. This is the forum to report bugs in the system. This feature is not working correctly and is therefore a bug. A bug that was first reported to the Dev team in 2017 and has not been fixed in over 3.5 years. "I'd like this" is for new features, not for features that are already in the system but not working correctly.
Until someone from the company speaks out about this issue, we have every right to complain about a bug in the system.
One of the methods actually was NOT a fan-made workaround. It was a system deliberately added to the sheet so you could do precisely these types of ad hoc additions.
Want to add an action to represent extra damage from an exploding arrow? You can do it. Want to add a custom inventory item to track how many you have? You can do it. Want a weapon that does 2d10 slashing damage and uses Intelligence instead of strength or dex? You can do it. All right there on your sheet - a system deliberately designed to do this and as a response to this thread.
You're complaining for something you can do already.
Since you can already do it using a system the devs implemented for this purpose, any extra ways are going to be extremely low priority no matter how much you complain. Because there are much better things to work on. Saying you want the feature or to do something in a way you find more preferable, like in this case, is all fine and dandy. Complaining, is just being disrespectful. They're hard at work doing things of much greater importance for much greater benefit and do not have time to add a slightly way of doing something you can already do. This should be understood and respected.
I have no qualms with people wanting this feature or even being a tad impatient. My issue, if it can be called that, is when people get all demanding and rude about it like this is some super massive thing. Those people are like customers who order a pint of beer in a bar and get handed two half-pint glasses. You've still got your pint, Karen, it's just not in the precise presentation you want, but it's still a pint all the same.
You have the ability to homebrew weapons and ammo of all kinds directly on your sheet. So don't act like you're being denied something huge.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
While yes this may be true, it brings up a problem mentioned before. A large amount of people playing dont always know how to do those things on their character sheets. And while yes it is possible to explain it to a single person, giving the same walkthrough speech to multiple player in multiple parties at multiple different points in time can get extreamly tedious. Of the 6 campaigns/adventures I've DM'd for with each one having a minimum of 4 players i wanted to baja blast my brains out after explaininh how the players can make custom items on their character sheets. Additionally it makes me look like a shit dm telling the player to make their own magic ammo or weapon. Also i reuse alot of common magic items between groups so yes i want the convince of just saying "search for 'Frost Arrows' under the equipment menu" instead of explaining how to modifiy a seperste grouping of arrows.
Its not like this system is free either. I pay for my books and my Hero/DM tier subscription. I dont receive physical books so i expect the website im supporting to have the decency to fix a bug thats been around for 3.5 years. Even more so because it seems like its already an option but the just a SINGLE drop down menu that needs adjusting/adding to for this issue to go away. Dont forget the entire ducking issue stems from selecting an anmunition item as a base for a hombrew and it requiring you to select a weapon type from the weapons drop down tab and the same ammo based item is not included in that tab.
This isn't a "we'd like this feature" though. This is "thing we can select from drop down doesn't work when we try to click Save," which makes it a bug. On a forum for bug reports, this definitely counts.
Telling players to just create their own magic items is not really something you should have to do as a DM. I can create all manner of other home brew items to give to my party, so why are these special?
If they want the workarounds to be the only way to do it, then just take the custom ammunition out of the drop down, and the "bug" becomes a "feature request." Otherwise, as someone who has spent hundreds of dollars on this site in both source materials and membership costs, I feel like it's kind of crappy to say "there are workarounds, stop reporting this bug."
Agreed it would be crappy. Which is why not a single person is telling you to not post. All anyone is asking for, is you want to post do so respectfully.
All I am saying is if you're posting to say you want this - feel free, but doing so complaining is disrespectful especially when trying to say it invalidates everything else.
Just as a recap, though:
People: "I want to be able to make custom mundane items and ammo so I can track them more easily on my sheet."
D&D Beyond: "We understand. Here you go, you can now do this. It's on your sheet, and we'll consider a tool for making them off sheet when we have time."
People who post without complaint: "Thank you, understandable. I'll just add I too would like that tool, in case it helps you to know we would still like that."
The Complainers my posts are about: "**** this, it's been years, this is trash, we can't do anything, we want it NOW, **wahh**"
The Complainers are acting like it is something denied to them that they're entitled to. They are like the "Karen" stereotype. They fail to realise they have the means to do exactly what they want, they don't know or care about priority and are disrespectful to the D&D Beyond devs and the work they do.
Whether you are somebody who "posts without complaint" or are like the "complainers" I am referencing, is your decision. If you feel like you are not like the complainers I specifically describe - then my posts are not about you.
Also note: people going "I would really like this too and I'm a bit annoyed at how long it is taking for this, with no update from devs" - are also fine and not the people I am posting about.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
That's a lot of words to complain about complaining, cybermind. This thread addresses a software bug that interferes with the intended function of the software. I pay for the software. So . . . absolutely yes . . . I am "entitled" to have reasonable steps taken to deliver the fully functional software for which I pay. This bug is way past reasonable.
It's a feature they advertise, and the ability to add homebrew content as a DM that you can share with your campaign players is definitely a feature they use to market and sell their subscription service and the platform as a whole. If the digital dice were locked up behind the subscription paywall but the D8 didn't work, people would rightfully complain about that too, even though you could tell them "there's plenty of workarounds, just roll a D8 in real life, just roll a D10 and reroll 9's and 10's, etc. stop complaining!"
Being able to homebrew ammo is no more a necessity than being able to homebrew any other item, but they advertise those DM-created, campaign shared homebrew items as reasons you should use (and pay for) their platform. For those of us that have been paying for it for a couple years now, it would really be nice to see the bug get fixed because I do actually use custom ammo in my games.
It's weird how many people think "entitled" is a bad thing, right? If you pay for something, you're entitled to it. Literally the entire modern economy is built on the idea that exchanging money for goods and services means you are entitled to get those goods and services.
Interesting... the post tag seems to have changed from "Bug" to "Request." Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that functionality that's already available, but doesn't work as intended (e.g. having a dropdown for custom arrows but not having an actual selectable Ammunition category) is considered a bug. On the other hand, functionality that does not exist yet, but is asked for seems more like a request...