While I like to take advantage of discount periods, I believe I will make a better point by boycotting until the ala carte purchases return
Yep. I missed the MCDM deal. Untlil this changes, not another digi-dollar more.
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DId you know? The DDB marketplace has REMOVED the option for purchasing one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters "a la carte". Now you ALWAYS have to buy the ENTIRE book instead.
Unhappy? UNSUBSCRIBE and Let them know your thoughts!
While I like to take advantage of discount periods, I believe I will make a better point by boycotting until the ala carte purchases return
Yep. I missed the MCDM deal. Untlil this changes, not another digi-dollar more.
Honestly, if they didn’t just piss everyone off and then ignore us for a month I would totally buy the Tone of Beasts 1 & Humblewood sets right now. They’re on sale yeah, but not even enough to be so enticing to break the boycott.
While I like to take advantage of discount periods, I believe I will make a better point by boycotting until the ala carte purchases return
Yep. I missed the MCDM deal. Untlil this changes, not another digi-dollar more.
Honestly, if they didn’t just piss everyone off and then ignore us for a month I would totally buy the Tone of Beasts 1 & Humblewood sets right now. They’re on sale yeah, but not even enough to be so enticing to break the boycott.
Humblewood is at least 3rd party. WotC would still get a cut though.
That’s basically how this feels. Throwing up a discount randomly probably because their sales suddenly dropped
They're throwing up a discount because the new books are coming out, if they have a strategy towards this issue at all it's "ignore it and hope it blows over".
That’s basically how this feels. Throwing up a discount randomly probably because their sales suddenly dropped
They're throwing up a discount because the new books are coming out, if they have a strategy towards this issue at all it's "ignore it and hope it blows over".
Can be all of the above, actually. Including "Our theory that removing a la carte will mean they will buy more books is failing, let's try a discount and see what happens"
Not even the Shadow knows what evil lurks in the hearts of marketing departments.
I see nothigns change an a la carte is still gone, meh discounts aint enticing enough to buy whole damn books instead of a couple character options id want unless i could but the whole damn book for what character options cost me before
In fairness to them, discounting adventures / campaign settings makes a lot of sense under normal circumstances. While everything player centric is a bad purchase with a new edition on the horizon, adventures can be used just fine with little to no tweaks, and it's not as if you were only buying the Amber Temple and not the rest of Curse of Strahd...
...but please don't buy it. Please. Not until they fix their mistake.
I do agree with this frustration, and I suspect a lot of this is a visibility issue for the wider community (i.e. People don't know about the problem until it's brought to their attention).
I'm taking to announcing my displeasure in the other posts Dndbeyond do on their main page - I.e.
"Oh what a great monster, It's a shame I can't buy it individually since you removed the A-la-carte feature)". "This book seems interesting - it's a shame I cant just buy the Monsters like I used to be able to, since you removed the a-la-carte feature". Etc.
Just gets the visibility out there in the comments.
That’s basically how this feels. Throwing up a discount randomly probably because their sales suddenly dropped
They're throwing up a discount because the new books are coming out, if they have a strategy towards this issue at all it's "ignore it and hope it blows over".
Can be all of the above, actually. Including "Our theory that removing a la carte will mean they will buy more books is failing, let's try a discount and see what happens"
Not even the Shadow knows what evil lurks in the hearts of marketing departments.
nah, that discount was planned way ahead. this is so standard. they can't have the old version discounted too close to the same time they start selling the new version or else a significant number of people will equate the discount price with the value of the stuff. then you have people asking why the new thing costs twice as much as they now value it.
still, there's lots of other reasons to continue being annoyed. like for instance: maybe ask what percentage of the new full price digital book goes to pay costs (artists, writers, graphics design, cloud servers, translation, new app features, etc) and which percent goes into the pockets of suits who do nothing but make decisions we don't like?
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unhappy at the way in which we lost individual purchases for one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters?
tell them you don't like features disappeared quietly in the night: providefeedback!
Can be all of the above, actually. Including "Our theory that removing a la carte will mean they will buy more books is failing, let's try a discount and see what happens"
The reality is, words are cheap, so if they were responding at all, their response would include words. Since they haven't said anything, they aren't actually responding.
so, if they brought back ala carte (and/or legendary bundle) tomorrow... is that enough? suppose they claimed it was back by popular demand with no further comment. would you do a big sweaty cartoon "fwheeew!" and go back to buying from the DDB marketplace again?
Nope, nor will I buy any other WotC product, digital or otherwise. While the removal of a la carte is a big problem, the bigger issue for me is the disrespectful way they treat their customers.
They pulled the old marketplace without warning, meaning people had no chance to make last-minute a la carte purchases.
The only mention of the discount for previous a la carte purchases still being valid is one easily missed line in the faq, which itself isn't very prominently linked from the store pages, and a couple of comments from mods on the forums (which most customers won't see). Combined with the fact that there's no easy way to see what you've bought from a given book I can only assume they're hoping people will forget about the discount or assume that it's no longer valid and purchase at full price.
They've completely ignored the community for the last month, despite huge numbers of complaints here and on Discord.
There's many ways they could have calmed things down, not just by bringing back a la carte, but if they'd explained why things were changing or even just acknowledged the complaints and apologised I expect they'd have been much less anger from the community. After all the issues the last year or two (OGL, pinkertons, AI art etc) you'd think PR would be a priority for them, but if they can't even be bothered to communicate with their customers then I'm not spending another penny with them.
The way this is being handle feels like it's class action lawsuit worthy.
So the way it's been done, users that purchased pieces of content to share with their campaigns are no longer able to share that material - only use it themselves. Then, in order to unlock the sharing for other users, they have to purchase the correct digital book, which doesn't apply any sort of discounts, even if you already own half the material in said book!
I say "the correct digital book" because if you try to purchase a book with certain material in it you want to unlock, you better first make sure you search the forums, or reddit to verify it's the book that will actually unlock it. Apparently, just because the material is in the book you purchase, doesn't mean it'll actually unlock it's use and sharing on DnD Beyond. For example: if you buy Tashas CoE because you want the Spore druid subclass you will soon find that despite that subclass CLEARLY being in the book - it won't actually give you access to it. Instead, you have to buy Ravnica. This is not posted clearly -ANYWHERE- in the market place. In fact the market place has been made more difficult to navigate and determine what each item actually unlocks. instead of a detailed list, you just get a blurb like "x number of new items!" or "a new class!"
By the way ,for any WOTC people watching this thread. My price point for a digital book from here is 15 bucks. I never bought piecemeal since I want everything. So in the future it would be nice if the digital copy of all books was about 15 bucks. I would start buying them all as soon as they came out, or at least think about it.
By the way ,for any WOTC people watching this thread. My price point for a digital book from here is 15 bucks. I never bought piecemeal since I want everything. So in the future it would be nice if the digital copy of all books was about 15 bucks. I would start buying them all as soon as they came out, or at least think about it.
Mine was about $20 which several sales got to with my LB discount, but that ship has sailed and with piece meal gone I just don't have enough interest in what is coming down the line to buy whole books anymore.
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Guys... people are really mad about the a la carte option being gone. What should we do?
Ahhh who cares, just give them a bunch of adventure books 50% off or something.
While I like to take advantage of discount periods, I believe I will make a better point by boycotting until the ala carte purchases return
37 pages later, they're likely going to just sweep this under the rug. We're all screaming into the void at this point.
Welp, at this point just gonna wait to convert to Daggerheart & MCDM
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The TTRPG throne is being left vacant
Don't give up, guys.
That’s basically how this feels. Throwing up a discount randomly probably because their sales suddenly dropped
Yep. I missed the MCDM deal.
Untlil this changes, not another digi-dollar more.
DId you know?
The DDB marketplace has REMOVED the option for purchasing one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters "a la carte".
Now you ALWAYS have to buy the ENTIRE book instead.
Unhappy? UNSUBSCRIBE and
Let them know your thoughts!
Honestly, if they didn’t just piss everyone off and then ignore us for a month I would totally buy the Tone of Beasts 1 & Humblewood sets right now. They’re on sale yeah, but not even enough to be so enticing to break the boycott.
Humblewood is at least 3rd party. WotC would still get a cut though.
They're throwing up a discount because the new books are coming out, if they have a strategy towards this issue at all it's "ignore it and hope it blows over".
Can be all of the above, actually. Including "Our theory that removing a la carte will mean they will buy more books is failing, let's try a discount and see what happens"
Not even the Shadow knows what evil lurks in the hearts of marketing departments.
I see nothigns change an a la carte is still gone, meh discounts aint enticing enough to buy whole damn books instead of a couple character options id want unless i could but the whole damn book for what character options cost me before
In fairness to them, discounting adventures / campaign settings makes a lot of sense under normal circumstances. While everything player centric is a bad purchase with a new edition on the horizon, adventures can be used just fine with little to no tweaks, and it's not as if you were only buying the Amber Temple and not the rest of Curse of Strahd...
...but please don't buy it. Please. Not until they fix their mistake.
I do agree with this frustration, and I suspect a lot of this is a visibility issue for the wider community (i.e. People don't know about the problem until it's brought to their attention).
I'm taking to announcing my displeasure in the other posts Dndbeyond do on their main page - I.e.
"Oh what a great monster, It's a shame I can't buy it individually since you removed the A-la-carte feature)".
"This book seems interesting - it's a shame I cant just buy the Monsters like I used to be able to, since you removed the a-la-carte feature". Etc.
Just gets the visibility out there in the comments.
nah, that discount was planned way ahead. this is so standard. they can't have the old version discounted too close to the same time they start selling the new version or else a significant number of people will equate the discount price with the value of the stuff. then you have people asking why the new thing costs twice as much as they now value it.
still, there's lots of other reasons to continue being annoyed. like for instance: maybe ask what percentage of the new full price digital book goes to pay costs (artists, writers, graphics design, cloud servers, translation, new app features, etc) and which percent goes into the pockets of suits who do nothing but make decisions we don't like?
unhappy at the way in which we lost individual purchases for one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters?
tell them you don't like features disappeared quietly in the night: provide feedback!
The reality is, words are cheap, so if they were responding at all, their response would include words. Since they haven't said anything, they aren't actually responding.
Nope, nor will I buy any other WotC product, digital or otherwise. While the removal of a la carte is a big problem, the bigger issue for me is the disrespectful way they treat their customers.
There's many ways they could have calmed things down, not just by bringing back a la carte, but if they'd explained why things were changing or even just acknowledged the complaints and apologised I expect they'd have been much less anger from the community. After all the issues the last year or two (OGL, pinkertons, AI art etc) you'd think PR would be a priority for them, but if they can't even be bothered to communicate with their customers then I'm not spending another penny with them.
The way this is being handle feels like it's class action lawsuit worthy.
So the way it's been done, users that purchased pieces of content to share with their campaigns are no longer able to share that material - only use it themselves. Then, in order to unlock the sharing for other users, they have to purchase the correct digital book, which doesn't apply any sort of discounts, even if you already own half the material in said book!
I say "the correct digital book" because if you try to purchase a book with certain material in it you want to unlock, you better first make sure you search the forums, or reddit to verify it's the book that will actually unlock it. Apparently, just because the material is in the book you purchase, doesn't mean it'll actually unlock it's use and sharing on DnD Beyond. For example: if you buy Tashas CoE because you want the Spore druid subclass you will soon find that despite that subclass CLEARLY being in the book - it won't actually give you access to it. Instead, you have to buy Ravnica. This is not posted clearly -ANYWHERE- in the market place. In fact the market place has been made more difficult to navigate and determine what each item actually unlocks. instead of a detailed list, you just get a blurb like "x number of new items!" or "a new class!"
This is absurd on so many levels...
Just bought some books during the sale.
Didn't get any at 50% off but.......
By the way ,for any WOTC people watching this thread. My price point for a digital book from here is 15 bucks. I never bought piecemeal since I want everything.
So in the future it would be nice if the digital copy of all books was about 15 bucks. I would start buying them all as soon as they came out, or at least think about it.
Mine was about $20 which several sales got to with my LB discount, but that ship has sailed and with piece meal gone I just don't have enough interest in what is coming down the line to buy whole books anymore.
CENSORSHIP IS THE TOOL OF COWARDS and WANNA BE TYRANTS.