Thanks to both of you for the hb advice! I'm going to do that in the future--annoying, but ultimately costs nothing, I guess!
I'm with you there. Luckily I snagged a fair chunk of things before this nonsense went down. So if my players need something, I am going to be homebrewing it from now on.
I bought a handful of things a la carte for different characters - and from a completionist point of view, I was looking forward to gradually acquiring the books piecemeal once it got to a point that I might as well. I'm not really interested in the rejigged 2024 rulebooks, but I would have continued to purchase things for 5e characters.
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Currently homebrewing the Mistveil Rogue, an elusive infiltrator that can vanish into thin air.
I can't believe the stupidity of this change. It's so funny how they believe this'll increase their revenue when all it'll do is drive away the already annoyed fans. Not to mention the money they'll loose by poeple being less likely to buy an entire book for a single feature. A rollback is needed this is ridiculous
As someone who just recently found this out, I’m so disappointed in you WOTC. I used to buy a lot of the a la carte items. Going forward, you will no longer get a penny from me until you return this feature…..to add, I just cancelled my Sub. Again, you will not see penny from me!
Pretty green DnD player, came back to DNDBeyond after a long break between games to find I have to spend over 75 dollars and buy two separate books in their entirety to make my one singular player character. This is insanely anti-consumer and has put a very bad taste in my mouth. I came willing to spend $10-$15 for what I needed and am now instead I am going to spend $0 and just play my character with pencil and paper instead of continuing to use this site. Really crazy and I hope they will bring back the option to buy races/subclasses individually.
the only book you have to have access to to make a character is the players handbook, all RPGs are like that.
Pretty green DnD player, came back to DNDBeyond after a long break between games to find I have to spend over 75 dollars and buy two separate books in their entirety to make my one singular player character. This is insanely anti-consumer and has put a very bad taste in my mouth. I came willing to spend $10-$15 for what I needed and am now instead I am going to spend $0 and just play my character with pencil and paper instead of continuing to use this site. Really crazy and I hope they will bring back the option to buy races/subclasses individually.
the only book you have to have access to to make a character is the players handbook, all RPGs are like that.
To WotC's credit, you don't even "need" the PHB. You can play with the free Basic Rules. I know that is pretty tone-def of me to say on this thread, but I have to call 'em as I see 'em.
That doesn't chaneg the fact that dumping a la carte was a dick move, though.
it sounds like you've been here before, but just in case, here is a link to the basic rules: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules (what you get for free) and here is where you can build a character using what is in the basic rules: https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/builder. It's possible that your DM (or perhaps someone you know) has an account set up to share content with players, so that you can have access to more character building content, without buying a whole bunch of books. .
It just doesn't feel as comfortable and friendly, now that the a la carte option is gone.
it sounds like you've been here before, but just in case, here is a link to the basic rules: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules (what you get for free) and here is where you can build a character using what is in the basic rules: https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/builder. It's possible that your DM (or perhaps someone you know) has an account set up to share content with players, so that you can have access to more character building content, without buying a whole bunch of books. .
It just doesn't feel as comfortable and friendly, now that the a la carte option is gone.
You will own nothing and be happy to over pay for what you want, LOL WotC could at least give their reasons for what they do.
you know, in boardgaming there's a concept of "shopping from your own shelf." instead of browsing sales and online shops and top 10 lists, you could instead turn around and see what's on your own shelf that you haven't played in a while. you continue to own it, so why not better your fun per dollar ratio? i feel like this is a similar situation. Wizards doesn't want to give reasons, and that's fine. But, wow, check out all these modules i own that have encounters i haven't used yet! gosh, i might not need to purchase another book for years!
so, yeah. opportunity in disguise. be happy!
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unhappy at the way in which we lost individual purchases for one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters?
tell them you don't like features disappeared quietly in the night: providefeedback!
To be honest the fact that there is no discount afforded to those that have previously purchased part of the content opens them up to a potential lawsuit in my opinion. Especially because no forewarning or ability to comment on the change was afforded to the public.
And it also just doesn't make ANY sense. It was the perfect system and the biggest reason that I came to DND Beyond as opposed to any other VTT. Its a money grab and its a joke. Just another reason why modern companies are failing so dramatically and losing out on customers. Do better WOTC!
To be honest the fact that there is no discount afforded to those that have previously purchased part of the content opens them up to a potential lawsuit in my opinion. Especially because no forewarning or ability to comment on the change was afforded to the public.
Discounts for previous a la carte purchases can still be applied, you just need to contact customer service to get an appropriate discount code when upgrading to the full book.
To be honest the fact that there is no discount afforded to those that have previously purchased part of the content opens them up to a potential lawsuit in my opinion. Especially because no forewarning or ability to comment on the change was afforded to the public.
That is not true, as I have clearly stated in the first post. You will need to contact customer support for the discount.
Yes, you read that right. The marketplace no longer sells piecemeal options. All individual options that were purchased before you still get to keep though.
What I am not sure about is if purchasing piecemeal options before will discount the book anymore, but from what I read from other users so far, seems like you do not get the discount. Contact customer support to get the à la carte discount. Keep in mind customer support might take a while, and do not submit multiple tickets or else you get pushed to the back of the line. I am not sure how they will implement the à la carte discount, so do contact customer support first before you buy anything just to be safe.
This seriously sucks big time. We got like zero announcements, zero heads up. The lack of communication is totally not cool.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1709-d-d-beyond-marketplace-redesign-see-whats-new-here Can I still purchase subclasses, feats, and other game listings à la carte? À la carte purchases are no longer supported. However, any individual items you've previously purchased will continue to be available for use on D&D Beyond. If you've purchased à la carte items and would like to buy the digital book, your discounts are available to you at any time by contacting customer service.
Whiole you might still be able to get the discount via customer service, it should be automatically applied, not requiring you to dance/perform tricks/fight your way through help topics depserate to ridrect you to FAQs or help forums to claim it.
Their isn't a clear contact here about discount for prior piecemeal. It is a hassle, and no doubt some just went "Sod it", and bought the while thing again, eschewing discount
Whiole you might still be able to get the discount via customer service, it should be automatically applied, not requiring you to dance/perform tricks/fight your way through help topics depserate to ridrect you to FAQs or help forums to claim it.
Their isn't a clear contact here about discount for prior piecemeal. It is a hassle, and no doubt some just went "Sod it", and bought the while thing again, eschewing discount
I agree. It should be automatic and hassle free, but Wizards did not do that.
To be honest the fact that there is no discount afforded to those that have previously purchased part of the content opens them up to a potential lawsuit in my opinion. Especially because no forewarning or ability to comment on the change was afforded to the public.
And it also just doesn't make ANY sense. It was the perfect system and the biggest reason that I came to DND Beyond as opposed to any other VTT. Its a money grab and its a joke. Just another reason why modern companies are failing so dramatically and losing out on customers. Do better WOTC!
Hah looks like you got their attention. Alas, no there won't be any lawsuits over this. Only thing we can do is continue doing what we always did: not be able to buy books in whole. It's painful, at least to me, because I want to support the game, but not support those who make these decisions. All we can do is sit by and let this whole thing play out. I'll say it again: the decision to remove a la carte wasn't the issue entirely, but HOW they did it. WotC didn't even bother to tell anyone. Guess we truly don't matter to them. Not even worth their time. Fine.
I want to point out to everyone in this thread that is upset about this that Pathfinder 2e is an insanely good option if you are running or playing in a homebrew campaign. As someone who exclusively runs homebrew campaigns, I don't want to buy books full of stuff I'm never going to even look at, let alone use. Pathfinder's mechanics, meaning everything from races to classes to monsters to equipment, are totally open for viewing by anyone. It's only what D&D would call "compendium content" that is paywalled. Lore, adventures, campaign settings, things like that.
You can use Pathbuilder to create and track your character sheet and have access to all of the character options there. It's not as pretty as D&D Beyond, but it is much more functional and even has a character planner so you can figure out things before actually leveling up. Then, you can use the Pathfinder Nexus on Demiplane as you would when searching for things like monsters and items on D&D Beyond. Demiplane has a character tracker of its own that is very similar to D&D Beyond's, and it is also really good. However, if you want to use the character tracker with all of the content you do need to own all of the books, and they don't have a la carte purchasing either. That's why I'd recommend just using Pathbuilder instead unless you're really willing to pay for that premium experience.
Of course, switching systems is always going to be hard and Pathfinder is undeniably more complicated than 5e is. I'm going to be doing it after my current campaign and I expect there to be growing pains. I really wish D&D Beyond would have kept the a la carte purchasing around so I could stick with it, because I do actually like 5e and would prefer to keep playing. I'd rather write my own game from scratch than have to buy an exorbitant amount of books full of stuff I'll never touch, though. I actually started doing it haha, but I don't have a solid enough TTRPG group to justify continuing spending the time. So, Pathfinder it is, as soon as my current campaign wraps up. I'd encourage others, especially those running a homebrew campaign setting, to do the same!
Of course, switching systems is always going to be hard and Pathfinder is undeniably more complicated than 5e is. I'm going to be doing it after my current campaign and I expect there to be growing pains. I really wish D&D Beyond would have kept the a la carte purchasing around so I could stick with it, because I do actually like 5e and would prefer to keep playing. I'd rather write my own game from scratch than have to buy an exorbitant amount of books full of stuff I'll never touch, though. I actually started doing it haha, but I don't have a solid enough TTRPG group to justify continuing spending the time. So, Pathfinder it is, as soon as my current campaign wraps up. I'd encourage others, especially those running a homebrew campaign setting, to do the same!
Oooof... this hurts. It hurts because this seems to be the best course going forward. Hurts even more than WotC kinda doesn't WANT me to support them. It's gonna be like pulling off a leech... Hard to do but highly likely for the best...
My most recent character died and I was making up a replacement on paper and on DnDBeyond. I had the idea of making them a Yuan-Ti for a while and got excited for that and looked at getting the race. I'd purchased three races from Monsters of the Multiverse before.
But now the option to just buy a race was gone. As was my discount.
$30 for a single race is waaaay too much. And since I'm not running a game I have no need of the monsters.
So I'm just not using DnDBeyond for this character. WotC loses out on an easy $1-3 microtransaction and can't apply that character to their statistics. And I'm disincentivized regarding using this platform in the future. I doubt I'm the only person that feels this way. I've purchased many, many options piecemeal in the past and there are several books I ended up buying solely because I'd bought so many elements I could get the book with a steep discount and said "why not?" Books I may have scoffed at buying all at once, but with the purchase spread out over months it became less of a problem.
I strongly dislike this change and hope it is reversed.
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I'm with you there. Luckily I snagged a fair chunk of things before this nonsense went down. So if my players need something, I am going to be homebrewing it from now on.
I bought a handful of things a la carte for different characters - and from a completionist point of view, I was looking forward to gradually acquiring the books piecemeal once it got to a point that I might as well. I'm not really interested in the rejigged 2024 rulebooks, but I would have continued to purchase things for 5e characters.
Currently homebrewing the Mistveil Rogue, an elusive infiltrator that can vanish into thin air.
I can't believe the stupidity of this change. It's so funny how they believe this'll increase their revenue when all it'll do is drive away the already annoyed fans. Not to mention the money they'll loose by poeple being less likely to buy an entire book for a single feature. A rollback is needed this is ridiculous
I just saw the Grim Hollow: Player Pack. I wonder if this is the new version of "get everything you want for your character creator".
Given that it's a third party product... it's safe to say no.
As someone who just recently found this out, I’m so disappointed in you WOTC. I used to buy a lot of the a la carte items. Going forward, you will no longer get a penny from me until you return this feature…..to add, I just cancelled my Sub. Again, you will not see penny from me!
so cringe. really wondering if/when they're going to revert this.
the only book you have to have access to to make a character is the players handbook, all RPGs are like that.
To WotC's credit, you don't even "need" the PHB. You can play with the free Basic Rules. I know that is pretty tone-def of me to say on this thread, but I have to call 'em as I see 'em.
That doesn't chaneg the fact that dumping a la carte was a dick move, though.
it sounds like you've been here before, but just in case, here is a link to the basic rules: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules (what you get for free) and here is where you can build a character using what is in the basic rules: https://www.dndbeyond.com/characters/builder. It's possible that your DM (or perhaps someone you know) has an account set up to share content with players, so that you can have access to more character building content, without buying a whole bunch of books. .
It just doesn't feel as comfortable and friendly, now that the a la carte option is gone.
you know, in boardgaming there's a concept of "shopping from your own shelf." instead of browsing sales and online shops and top 10 lists, you could instead turn around and see what's on your own shelf that you haven't played in a while. you continue to own it, so why not better your fun per dollar ratio? i feel like this is a similar situation. Wizards doesn't want to give reasons, and that's fine. But, wow, check out all these modules i own that have encounters i haven't used yet! gosh, i might not need to purchase another book for years!
so, yeah. opportunity in disguise. be happy!
unhappy at the way in which we lost individual purchases for one-off subclasses, magic items, and monsters?
tell them you don't like features disappeared quietly in the night: provide feedback!
To be honest the fact that there is no discount afforded to those that have previously purchased part of the content opens them up to a potential lawsuit in my opinion. Especially because no forewarning or ability to comment on the change was afforded to the public.
And it also just doesn't make ANY sense. It was the perfect system and the biggest reason that I came to DND Beyond as opposed to any other VTT. Its a money grab and its a joke. Just another reason why modern companies are failing so dramatically and losing out on customers. Do better WOTC!
Discounts for previous a la carte purchases can still be applied, you just need to contact customer service to get an appropriate discount code when upgrading to the full book.
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That is not true, as I have clearly stated in the first post. You will need to contact customer support for the discount.
Check Licenses and Resync Entitlements: < https://www.dndbeyond.com/account/licenses >
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D&D with High School Students by Bill Allen; Season 1 Episode 1: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52NJTUDokyk&t >
Whiole you might still be able to get the discount via customer service, it should be automatically applied, not requiring you to dance/perform tricks/fight your way through help topics depserate to ridrect you to FAQs or help forums to claim it.
Their isn't a clear contact here about discount for prior piecemeal. It is a hassle, and no doubt some just went "Sod it", and bought the while thing again, eschewing discount
I agree. It should be automatic and hassle free, but Wizards did not do that.
Check Licenses and Resync Entitlements: < https://www.dndbeyond.com/account/licenses >
Running the Game by Matt Colville; Introduction: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-YZvLUXcR8 >
D&D with High School Students by Bill Allen; Season 1 Episode 1: < https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52NJTUDokyk&t >
Hah looks like you got their attention. Alas, no there won't be any lawsuits over this. Only thing we can do is continue doing what we always did: not be able to buy books in whole.
It's painful, at least to me, because I want to support the game, but not support those who make these decisions. All we can do is sit by and let this whole thing play out.
I'll say it again: the decision to remove a la carte wasn't the issue entirely, but HOW they did it. WotC didn't even bother to tell anyone. Guess we truly don't matter to them. Not even worth their time. Fine.
I want to point out to everyone in this thread that is upset about this that Pathfinder 2e is an insanely good option if you are running or playing in a homebrew campaign. As someone who exclusively runs homebrew campaigns, I don't want to buy books full of stuff I'm never going to even look at, let alone use. Pathfinder's mechanics, meaning everything from races to classes to monsters to equipment, are totally open for viewing by anyone. It's only what D&D would call "compendium content" that is paywalled. Lore, adventures, campaign settings, things like that.
You can use Pathbuilder to create and track your character sheet and have access to all of the character options there. It's not as pretty as D&D Beyond, but it is much more functional and even has a character planner so you can figure out things before actually leveling up. Then, you can use the Pathfinder Nexus on Demiplane as you would when searching for things like monsters and items on D&D Beyond. Demiplane has a character tracker of its own that is very similar to D&D Beyond's, and it is also really good. However, if you want to use the character tracker with all of the content you do need to own all of the books, and they don't have a la carte purchasing either. That's why I'd recommend just using Pathbuilder instead unless you're really willing to pay for that premium experience.
Of course, switching systems is always going to be hard and Pathfinder is undeniably more complicated than 5e is. I'm going to be doing it after my current campaign and I expect there to be growing pains. I really wish D&D Beyond would have kept the a la carte purchasing around so I could stick with it, because I do actually like 5e and would prefer to keep playing. I'd rather write my own game from scratch than have to buy an exorbitant amount of books full of stuff I'll never touch, though. I actually started doing it haha, but I don't have a solid enough TTRPG group to justify continuing spending the time. So, Pathfinder it is, as soon as my current campaign wraps up. I'd encourage others, especially those running a homebrew campaign setting, to do the same!
Oooof... this hurts. It hurts because this seems to be the best course going forward. Hurts even more than WotC kinda doesn't WANT me to support them. It's gonna be like pulling off a leech... Hard to do but highly likely for the best...
My most recent character died and I was making up a replacement on paper and on DnDBeyond. I had the idea of making them a Yuan-Ti for a while and got excited for that and looked at getting the race. I'd purchased three races from Monsters of the Multiverse before.
But now the option to just buy a race was gone. As was my discount.
$30 for a single race is waaaay too much. And since I'm not running a game I have no need of the monsters.
So I'm just not using DnDBeyond for this character. WotC loses out on an easy $1-3 microtransaction and can't apply that character to their statistics. And I'm disincentivized regarding using this platform in the future. I doubt I'm the only person that feels this way.
I've purchased many, many options piecemeal in the past and there are several books I ended up buying solely because I'd bought so many elements I could get the book with a steep discount and said "why not?" Books I may have scoffed at buying all at once, but with the purchase spread out over months it became less of a problem.
I strongly dislike this change and hope it is reversed.