So I'm wondering what will happen with 5e content on DnDBeyond now there is some kind of an ETA on One DnD. Threads in the past have speculated on both being incorporated but I would like to know before I invest anymore into digital content. It's a great service and it would be a shame if it faded into obscurity after the launch of One DnD.
As for 5e, it depends on how 1D&D works. In theory, they've said it'll be backwards compatible so it should be maintained as well. They've done the hard work, why abandon it? I daresay there'll be some kind of toggle system that will let you switch between rules etc, since 1D&D will evidently be different enough that you can't just have one set of rules for creation. While you should be able to use one character in the other, even things like races will work differently, and so there'll be a need to know which system you want to use to create characters.
Of course, WotC could just abandon the compatibility promise tomorrow, at which point 5e becomes less certain. They'd have to maintain costly infrastructure to keep it available...when it'll become less and less popular. That will make it more and more tempting for DDB to pull the plug on it and focus on 1D&D.
You're probably going to ask when we'll know what's happening for sure. The thing is, nobody, not even DDB, will know this. Until 1D&D is developed enough that they can't go back on that promise, there will be uncertainty. DDB will know of any changes in plan first, but they won't necessarily pass that on particularly quickly, in large part because they have their own concerns to worry about, like if they'll continue supporting 5e anyway, for how long they'll do so, etc. We probably won't know 100% until 1D&D launches...or they say they've abandoned the idea.
I'm sorry I can't give a more definitive or encouraging answer. It should support both indefinitely (until a new edition comes out at least, so maybe 2035ish), but there's always that chance that they won't.
Unfortunately, that's the problem with not owning the content (like pretty much any electronic distribution), you just can't guarantee how long you'll have access to it.
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It may not have been definitive but each point you made is certainly worth considering. If I'm honest with myself I'll probably grab a few more digital sourcebooks in the coming weeks. Having the monster stats available amongst other things has proven valuable and One DnD is still a couple of years away I think.
There is a group I watch who is incorporating Codename: One D&D UA into their campaign that started as 5e over a year ago. So far with the little we're given regarding 1D&D, it hasn't made as much of an impact on them as I might have thought. The most notable difference is that the players have a lot more instances of "Inspiration" (Hero whatchamacallit) than they did prior, but the DM has upped the difficulty of things to counter it.
It looks a lot like 5e so far, but that may be because the UA says use 5e whenever it doesn't contradict the UA and there's not a lot of the UA out there, yet.
What will DDB do with this? I don't know. Backwards compatibility is usually reserved for bringing things forward into the current iteration which would mean DDB would be used to convert 5e into 1D&D, but that's nothing more than a guess by observing other situations which might be incongruent with playing D&D.
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The ETA on oneD&D is 2024. In past editions, they usually start releases in late summer/early fall, with the PHB first, then about a month later for the next and the third core book a month after that. Of course, that doesn’t mean that’s how it will happen this time, so 2024 is all the solid information we have
Beyond that there have been no official announcements about how they will handle 5e content or what will happen. You’re not alone in wondering what the plans are, or in wondering how much you want to invest in digital copies at this point.
I take the "backwards compatible" to mean that adventures published for 5e will still run just fine with little to no tweaks.
As for character creation on DDB, I suspect they will continue to allow access to the 5e character builder, but it will be legacy software that won't see updates.
I think the real question is whether they will allow legacy character builds to join campaigns. I kind of doubt they will. They're working on a VTT, and I just don't see 5e characters being shoehorned into that. But who knows.
I sincerely hope that there isn't an automatic/mandated connection between campaigns and their VTT. While the short concept video they provided was impressive, I don't think it's going to fit my play style at all. I love the tools here, they've made playing far easier and more enjoyable, but I just have no interest in the VTT. I've been happy to shell out (quite a lot of) money to get source and adventure books, and will almost certainly continue to do so after 1D&D arrives. That said, I have no interest in paying for digital minis, either in increased subscription rates or in micro-transactions.
I may be in the minority in all of that. The truth is that none of us have any idea whatsoever what WotC plans to do once 1D&D arrives.
I sincerely hope that there isn't an automatic/mandated connection between campaigns and their VTT. While the short concept video they provided was impressive, I don't think it's going to fit my play style at all. I love the tools here, they've made playing far easier and more enjoyable, but I just have no interest in the VTT. I've been happy to shell out (quite a lot of) money to get source and adventure books, and will almost certainly continue to do so after 1D&D arrives. That said, I have no interest in paying for digital minis, either in increased subscription rates or in micro-transactions.
I may be in the minority in all of that. The truth is that none of us have any idea whatsoever what WotC plans to do once 1D&D arrives.
I'd be surprised if somehow VTT is compulsory or automated into all use of One D&D. WotC wants One D&D, integrated with DDB, this VTT, a marketplace, some form of "community" etc. so that it's a "one stop shop" for all your D&D needs. They also know there are many ways to play D&D so I imagine some folks games will be "power users" of WotC's digital resources, others not so much. I mean even D&D Beyond does not have total buy in of the D&D player demographic, so to think the next thing will be all and end all for all players would probably hurt its market share as most folks seek out more flexible modes of play. Rather, it just seems smarter, and the signs seem indicative that they're doing this, to let D&D be the flexibility and a host of options under the one D&D banner from which D&D players can pick what they want from those options.
As far as "maintaining" 5e and DDB as we know it on whatever D&D will be called in 2024, if they're able to keep backward compatibility I could see 5e kept under a "legacy" partition, as they did with Volo's and MToF. From what we've seen so far, it looks like 5e character sheets and OneD&D character sheets will have enough commonality to both be functional in a VTT (they'll both have AC, and attacks are rolled the same, damage seems like it'll be comparable. How those dice are derived are different in the functions of the character sheet's differing level progressions and origin choices, but it looks like they'll be able to play together, as they are in the pretest as we speak on paper via the UA.
I didn’t want to start a new thread, so I am replying here. I am new to dnd (just started a few weeks ago). I bought some physical books for easier reading (in my native language) and few digital books here on dnd beyond for using the character sheet. For new dnd players or dm (like me) i can say that it made my life a lot easier. Also for teaching new players it is a lot easier when they have a character sheet which does a lot of the math for them.
Anyway after dnd direct and the dnd creator summit i wanted to ask if I understand correctly that even after the rework of the rules (2024) I can still use the character sheet and rules from dnd 5e 2014 here on dnd beyond? I am asking because I really like the system and want to buy a few more books. I don’t want to be screwed when they launch the new rules in 2024. I don’t have interest in the VTT. I just want to use the character sheets and continue to play 5e (2014).
I'm not sure anyone has the answer to that question. There will be new versions of the PHB, MM and DMG so I would guess it's likely that the character builder will transition to those, not sure if the old books will have "legacy" options. They have said that secondary books Like Tasha's and MMM will work with the next version, so I would imagine they would work here. I think we just have to wait and see.
I've skimmed a few of the reports on the "content creators summit", and I'll see if I can back with specific quotes from the design team, but it certainly sounds like the 5e content will still be hosted on D&D Beyond and groups can mix and match the 2014 PHB with the next PHB, pick and choose from monsters, etc. That's the impression I got, and like I said, I'll see if I can come back or maybe someone else can chime in with direct quote supported by a consensus of reports from the summit attendees that that was in fact said.
The books will layout how you can use material/adventures from before the 2024 books so people can continue to use the books they own and provide as frictionless a process as possible.
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One of the things we're doing to ensure that 5E stays compatible with itself is that when a number is attached to itself, it won't change. So no spells are changing levels and no monster CRs are changing. They're working to make the CR of the monster and not change the CR. Similarly they're making sure the spell is appropriate for the level instead of changing the spell level. This is one of the ways we're supporting a revision of 5E in place instead of creating a 5.5 or 5E.
The way content is on D&D Beyond will not change either. If you bought a book, it'll still be there. They may get a "legacy" label, but they'll still be there.
Will our current core books in D&D Beyond just get upgraded to the 2024 version? No, they are considered new books because they have so much new content, new art, etc.
Thank you very much for the replies. So I Imagine/assume legacy content is the same move like the Volo and mordekainen books. So one is still able to use the legacy content within the character sheets.
I think the 2014 Player's Handbook should not become legacy content. Because if it becomes legacy content new groups will not be able to buy and play the 2014 version.
I believe that will cause a divide between current D&D groups and new D&D groups.
I think the 2014 Player's Handbook should not become legacy content. Because if it becomes legacy content new groups will not be able to buy and play the 2014 version.
I believe that will cause a divide between current D&D groups and new D&D groups.
Like the way you can’t buy 3e books, and people still play it? This plays out every single time there’s a new edition. We’ll all get through it.
I think the 2014 Player's Handbook should not become legacy content. Because if it becomes legacy content new groups will not be able to buy and play the 2014 version.
I believe that will cause a divide between current D&D groups and new D&D groups.
Even if it does become Legacy content, people will still get the 2024 Basic rules/SRD for free. You don't need either PHB to play D&D.
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So I'm wondering what will happen with 5e content on DnDBeyond now there is some kind of an ETA on One DnD. Threads in the past have speculated on both being incorporated but I would like to know before I invest anymore into digital content. It's a great service and it would be a shame if it faded into obscurity after the launch of One DnD.
1D&D will run on DDB.
As for 5e, it depends on how 1D&D works. In theory, they've said it'll be backwards compatible so it should be maintained as well. They've done the hard work, why abandon it? I daresay there'll be some kind of toggle system that will let you switch between rules etc, since 1D&D will evidently be different enough that you can't just have one set of rules for creation. While you should be able to use one character in the other, even things like races will work differently, and so there'll be a need to know which system you want to use to create characters.
Of course, WotC could just abandon the compatibility promise tomorrow, at which point 5e becomes less certain. They'd have to maintain costly infrastructure to keep it available...when it'll become less and less popular. That will make it more and more tempting for DDB to pull the plug on it and focus on 1D&D.
You're probably going to ask when we'll know what's happening for sure. The thing is, nobody, not even DDB, will know this. Until 1D&D is developed enough that they can't go back on that promise, there will be uncertainty. DDB will know of any changes in plan first, but they won't necessarily pass that on particularly quickly, in large part because they have their own concerns to worry about, like if they'll continue supporting 5e anyway, for how long they'll do so, etc. We probably won't know 100% until 1D&D launches...or they say they've abandoned the idea.
I'm sorry I can't give a more definitive or encouraging answer. It should support both indefinitely (until a new edition comes out at least, so maybe 2035ish), but there's always that chance that they won't.
Unfortunately, that's the problem with not owning the content (like pretty much any electronic distribution), you just can't guarantee how long you'll have access to it.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
It may not have been definitive but each point you made is certainly worth considering. If I'm honest with myself I'll probably grab a few more digital sourcebooks in the coming weeks. Having the monster stats available amongst other things has proven valuable and One DnD is still a couple of years away I think.
There is a group I watch who is incorporating Codename: One D&D UA into their campaign that started as 5e over a year ago. So far with the little we're given regarding 1D&D, it hasn't made as much of an impact on them as I might have thought. The most notable difference is that the players have a lot more instances of "Inspiration" (Hero whatchamacallit) than they did prior, but the DM has upped the difficulty of things to counter it.
It looks a lot like 5e so far, but that may be because the UA says use 5e whenever it doesn't contradict the UA and there's not a lot of the UA out there, yet.
What will DDB do with this? I don't know. Backwards compatibility is usually reserved for bringing things forward into the current iteration which would mean DDB would be used to convert 5e into 1D&D, but that's nothing more than a guess by observing other situations which might be incongruent with playing D&D.
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My characters' backgrounds are written like instruction manuals rather than stories. My opinion and preferences don't mean you're wrong.
I am 99.7603% convinced that the digital dice are messing with me. I roll high when nobody's looking and low when anyone else can see.🎲
“It's a bit early to be thinking about an epitaph. No?” will be my epitaph.
The ETA on oneD&D is 2024. In past editions, they usually start releases in late summer/early fall, with the PHB first, then about a month later for the next and the third core book a month after that. Of course, that doesn’t mean that’s how it will happen this time, so 2024 is all the solid information we have
Beyond that there have been no official announcements about how they will handle 5e content or what will happen.
You’re not alone in wondering what the plans are, or in wondering how much you want to invest in digital copies at this point.
I take the "backwards compatible" to mean that adventures published for 5e will still run just fine with little to no tweaks.
As for character creation on DDB, I suspect they will continue to allow access to the 5e character builder, but it will be legacy software that won't see updates.
I think the real question is whether they will allow legacy character builds to join campaigns. I kind of doubt they will. They're working on a VTT, and I just don't see 5e characters being shoehorned into that. But who knows.
I sincerely hope that there isn't an automatic/mandated connection between campaigns and their VTT. While the short concept video they provided was impressive, I don't think it's going to fit my play style at all. I love the tools here, they've made playing far easier and more enjoyable, but I just have no interest in the VTT. I've been happy to shell out (quite a lot of) money to get source and adventure books, and will almost certainly continue to do so after 1D&D arrives. That said, I have no interest in paying for digital minis, either in increased subscription rates or in micro-transactions.
I may be in the minority in all of that. The truth is that none of us have any idea whatsoever what WotC plans to do once 1D&D arrives.
Do you mean 6th edition?
I'd be surprised if somehow VTT is compulsory or automated into all use of One D&D. WotC wants One D&D, integrated with DDB, this VTT, a marketplace, some form of "community" etc. so that it's a "one stop shop" for all your D&D needs. They also know there are many ways to play D&D so I imagine some folks games will be "power users" of WotC's digital resources, others not so much. I mean even D&D Beyond does not have total buy in of the D&D player demographic, so to think the next thing will be all and end all for all players would probably hurt its market share as most folks seek out more flexible modes of play. Rather, it just seems smarter, and the signs seem indicative that they're doing this, to let D&D be the flexibility and a host of options under the one D&D banner from which D&D players can pick what they want from those options.
As far as "maintaining" 5e and DDB as we know it on whatever D&D will be called in 2024, if they're able to keep backward compatibility I could see 5e kept under a "legacy" partition, as they did with Volo's and MToF. From what we've seen so far, it looks like 5e character sheets and OneD&D character sheets will have enough commonality to both be functional in a VTT (they'll both have AC, and attacks are rolled the same, damage seems like it'll be comparable. How those dice are derived are different in the functions of the character sheet's differing level progressions and origin choices, but it looks like they'll be able to play together, as they are in the pretest as we speak on paper via the UA.
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I didn’t want to start a new thread, so I am replying here. I am new to dnd (just started a few weeks ago). I bought some physical books for easier reading (in my native language) and few digital books here on dnd beyond for using the character sheet. For new dnd players or dm (like me) i can say that it made my life a lot easier. Also for teaching new players it is a lot easier when they have a character sheet which does a lot of the math for them.
Anyway after dnd direct and the dnd creator summit i wanted to ask if I understand correctly that even after the rework of the rules (2024) I can still use the character sheet and rules from dnd 5e 2014 here on dnd beyond? I am asking because I really like the system and want to buy a few more books. I don’t want to be screwed when they launch the new rules in 2024. I don’t have interest in the VTT. I just want to use the character sheets and continue to play 5e (2014).
Thanks in advance and best regards
I'm not sure anyone has the answer to that question. There will be new versions of the PHB, MM and DMG so I would guess it's likely that the character builder will transition to those, not sure if the old books will have "legacy" options. They have said that secondary books Like Tasha's and MMM will work with the next version, so I would imagine they would work here. I think we just have to wait and see.
I've skimmed a few of the reports on the "content creators summit", and I'll see if I can back with specific quotes from the design team, but it certainly sounds like the 5e content will still be hosted on D&D Beyond and groups can mix and match the 2014 PHB with the next PHB, pick and choose from monsters, etc. That's the impression I got, and like I said, I'll see if I can come back or maybe someone else can chime in with direct quote supported by a consensus of reports from the summit attendees that that was in fact said.
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From the transcription of the summit on Enworld (I've used colors to draw attention to some points):
Trying to Decide if DDB is for you? A few helpful threads: A Buyer's Guide to DDB; What I/We Bought and Why; How some DMs use DDB; A Newer Thread on Using DDB to Play
Helpful threads on other topics: Homebrew FAQ by IamSposta; Accessing Content by ConalTheGreat;
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Thank you very much for the replies. So I Imagine/assume legacy content is the same move like the Volo and mordekainen books. So one is still able to use the legacy content within the character sheets.
I think the 2014 Player's Handbook should not become legacy content.
Because if it becomes legacy content new groups will not be able to buy and play the 2014 version.
I believe that will cause a divide between current D&D groups and new D&D groups.
Like the way you can’t buy 3e books, and people still play it? This plays out every single time there’s a new edition. We’ll all get through it.
Even if it does become Legacy content, people will still get the 2024 Basic rules/SRD for free. You don't need either PHB to play D&D.