Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
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I do not charge but I think that does not matter from what I have read. If there is enough money to be made I think they will try and unless you own a ISP once Hasbro slaps a notice to them on trademark violation one might have to go to a café with internet to check one's mail.
The using a VTT is a different thing and the only VTT's Hasbro has reached out to allow are Roll20 and Fantasy Grounds from what I have read.
In the end once Hasbro has either purchased one or the other or built their own it will become a 30 day notice for the rest and then there will be only one.
My biggest concern is language that states WotC can terminate/change/update the OGL 1.1 and only require a 30 day notice, with the addition of gaining inperpetuity the control of any 3rd party material you create they can easily let creators make something only for Hasbro to pull a Vader and say "Pray I don't alter it further". I know as a small DM and DnD player the OGL won't directly impact me but the idea that it could strangle and destroy the community that makes DnD great, the people not WotC, that's when I draw the line.
There is probably a happy middle out there but that won't exist as long as we are viewed as cows to be milked and tossed aside once they get their fill, which lets be honest when have investors ever said that's enough profit let's stop?
For all we know, the leaks could still be wrong. I am concerned deeply be them and with all the new evidence coming in, I think it is all too likely that they are true. However, I'm willing to wait a bit longer to see what will happen.
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HERE.There hasn't been a large enough movement or even reason until now. Many pen-and-paper RPGs exist, but this one had the fantasy gaming on lock. However, a ton of the third-party content is much better than the official content, but why would anyone keep creating third-party content when WotC could take it for free and make the creator stop selling it even after claiming 20% upfront off the Kickstarter. You can't sue because of the new not OpenGL.
I own every sourcebook, both physical and digital (dndbeyond) copies, but everyone I know is winding down our games and getting ready to close the door on this IP. I can't support this level of greed and mass grift. My dndbeyond Membership will not renew, and WotC and Hasben can GFSF. #opendnd
Hasbro/Wizards intentions here are unconscionable. They're attempting to destroy the RPG community for their own profit, acting in bad faith wielding text in the original OGL directly contrary to its intent, and lieing to their customers about it.
Two years ago, Wizards knew the previous versions of the OGL were forever (as it was in their FAQ, assuring people who were using it of such). Then they buried the evidence, and apparently started planning to destroy their competition not through superior products and service, but through questionably legal and absolutely immoral legal chicanery.
Its reprehensible, and I'll be asking everyone in my personal reach not to support Wizards or Hasbro financially unless they back off trying to essentially steal the work of third party creators and put hundreds or thousands of people out of work because they aren't competent to actually deal with competition in their market.
To be clear, they aren't competent to compete with people making products available for free.
Whats sad though, is that even if they do backtrack, they can't be trusted at all ever again. They've revealed their intent and desire for the industry - a barren wasteland where only they exist, with a dollar sign at every level of their product. It'll be years repairing their reputation, if it can be salvaged at all.
This is sad. New people at the top who don't understand the hobby or the dynamics of the table top culture. Rather than have a good look at the way things have worked for decades and embrace the fans of their product , they drag out this draconian document with the intent of walling off the very people they rely upon to pay the bills.
Brilliant!
Too bad, I was just a bit curious what this unreal engine based virtual game setting thingie was all about.
If the only reason for it to exist is to hoover cash from my pocket, then that is disappointing at the very least.
I don't have that kind of income any more, and even if I did I don't waste money on digital bling.
If the leaked 1.1 text is real they're both. It begins with a section in which they lie about objective and easily checked fact regarding the OGL 1.0 in order to achieve a business goal - that is to say, it starts by committing fraud in text - and doesn't really improve thereafter.
That's the only thing making me doubt it's veracity - I am honestly surprised at just how cack-handed it is.
Take care of yourself first. This is distressing and o need to remain distressed until you are ready to come back and look at it again.
The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
At this point it wouldn't matter to me if the DDB VTT is the most amazing vtt in the world, the bad faith actions of WotC mean I will not only never use it, I will likely not renew my mastier tier membership once my current campaign is done.
"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing)
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
Yea, and man I'm curious too. Using the Unreal Engine is so smart. And what we have seen looks fun, right?
Hasbero and WoTC should trust in their creative strengths. They have, after all, delivered every time.
Anyone else find it somewhat hypocritical that Hasbro/WoTC are building their VTT based upon a licensed access to the Unreal Engine....kinda like an Open Game License-thing?
Taken from the Unreal Engine EULA (https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/eula/unreal)
#OpenDND - opendnd.games
You sound like a Hasbro PR spokesperson...
And, no. They haven't. They've had quite a few releases that many agree were not "creatively strong", with increasing number in recent years. MotM was a rehash of content barely a few years old and Spelljammer was threadbare and overpriced. All signs pointing to "what if you paid more for less content?" from what I see.
I was disappointed in Spelljammer, and Monsters of the Multiverse wasn’t that great either. But Shadow of the Dragon Queen was really good.
I’m saying this because I still don’t think D&D sucks. I do reluctantly agree that I’m disappointed in what they’re doing with the OGL though.
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To be clear, I love the game D&D. It's the only TTRPG I play, it's a hobby that I gleefully invest my time and energy into. But "D&D, the game" is very different from "D&D, the brand". The creative and business directions that Hasbro/WotC have been moving towards are incredibly anti-consumer and anti-competition (which also means it's anti-capitalist, since a free, competitive market is essensial to a "functioning capitalist society", just FYI), and they are decisions that will only serve to drive people away from the game into other, non-compatible gaming systems. We see it all the time with the video game industry, where entire franchises are turned into game store poison through over-monetisation and content-carving, and thrown aside by the corporation as they move onto the next sacrifice upon the alter of the myth of "perpetual growth".
None of that makes the idea of rolling an ability check, or counterspelling any less fun and exciting, but it is going to affect whether or not a player considers that excitement worth investing in a company that is willing to lie, trick, and strong arm you into paying more for less, especially if there is an alternative that doesn't come with such high levels of amoral avarice.
I mean, technically there are economists who have argued that monopolies are actually fine, but that's another can of worms entirely. I get the feeling that Hasbro / WoTC execs are really zooming in on the undermonetization angle, and from the radio silence on official PR / comms, they're trying to see if they can ride out the wave of frustration into some kind of miserable, teeth-gritted acceptance of the new normal.
As you say, D&D the Game and D&D the Brand are distinct things. The game will outlast the brand, but poisoning the well for the brand is just an incredibly spiteful and short-sighted move.
>> #OpenDND
Ahh, now I get why they called it One D&D...
One D&D to rule them all. One contract to find them. One OGL to bring them all and in the fine print bind them; In the Land of Hasbro where the shareholders lie.
Thank you kindly. I believe that will be in order.
then why isnt this copy available to see for everyone? people claim to have it but it is magically nowhere to be found online.
also i find it hard to believe that a document goes from 1 page to 15 pages for a .1 version this would be more like a 2.0 if it was real.
The document is under copyright of WotC, so you can't just upload it willy-nilly. That being said, some have uploaded copies of it or streamed its contents in full. Believing it to be fake, because of its length or it not being called 2.0, is grasping at straws at this point. People have forward and verified that they have received this OGL (in name only) with a deadline to sign it.
It is paramount to not to conflate statements from a non-primary source with facts, but if the evidence is this overwhelming, it is hard to justify calling the leaks fakes.