Monstrous Compendium Vol. 1: Spelljammer Creatures
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So, I have watched and listened to the recorded board and shareholder meetings. I am guessing you have not...One of us is going to look silly to anyone else that has looked at past decisions by the Hasbro senior leadership.
Literally laughing out loud...
Links to said videos and recorded board sessions please?
Just published a map on DriveThruRPG The Forgotten Temple
Except their “good-faith” apology continues a lie that it was all a “draft” and a misunderstanding. Their management only cares about their PR and stock price. The first opportunity that presents itself they absolutely will screw the community over if they believe they can get away with it.
a true apology accepts the guilt and blame without conditions or arguing it was a misunderstanding. They have not done that. They have blame shifted and excused their behavior. They have tried to twist their mistake to make it sound like something positive. It’s all hollow words they hope will make their screw up go away.
"When truth presents itself, the wise person see the light, takes it in, and makes adjustments. The fool tries to adjust the truth so he does not have to adjust to it." ~ Henry Cloud #ORC #OpenDND
"Community feedback has been clear - there's not much room for de-authorizing OGL 1.0a. OGL 2.0 will not reference such, and will apply primarily to new content for OneDnD/DnD 6e, and optionally for content for 5e if creators opt to do so"
That's it. I dont care about fake apologies or make demands on what they do with new content and agreements going forward. Just honor their past contracts.
The wording of every response shows the true intent, they don't and can't admit they are wrong, they have a set goal in mind and want it accomplished and don't care about the community cause they know they can turn a profit no matter what. If they lose all of the community but still force thier changes now or later likely at this point.
Facts: 1. They want people to stop talking about this on public platforms and what it keep in the forums they control and don't look at, those lose less money and can make essential changes to their plans. 2. The ceo or whomever is responsible for the ogl changes don't care about d&d or the community but about money, that is their job. The issue is they seem to have such an ego that any push to thier changes results in staf quiting (like we saw in october), staff being fired, and the d&d community being abused verbally and financially by WotC. 3. WotC has a right to desire money from 3rd party who use d&d to make revenue, however as an ogl was established already changes to oil is not possible and WotC should instead embrace 3rd party allowing their work to be sold on dndbeyond and wotc gets a small revenue for that.
Not like wotc will see this or bother with any of our post here, only way to send a message is on Twitter and other social platforms whike cancelling our subs sadly.
How about this:
"We are very sorry that some people in our company tried to trick the community. The OGL won't change in any form except in one word, we add the term 'irrevocable'. The capitalistic imperialists have left the company. Please help us to improve our competitivness in the form to create a better product with One D&D."
There is zero evidence that OGL 1.0a has ever been anything but beneficial to their bottom line, and significant evidence that walking away from it or trying to invalidate it is catastrophic.
See also 4e as compared to 3.5 and 5e (evidence available prior to this debacle), and the current community revolt with potentially tens of thousands of canceled subs.
The whole "but their bottom line" angle is bizarre, as the "good" financial decision has never, ever been invalidating OGL 1.0a. If they're concerned about 6e competing with 5e, they should try making 6e a better product.
Ryan Dancy explained how it helped DnD coming into 3rd ed in the interview he did with Roll for Combat. Its not exactly straightforward, but its pretty clear that third parties serve a critical role in the overall TTRPG ecosystem.
Tons of people- maybe not you- play adventures, use mechanics, etc.- created by third party creators that make DnD more playable to them, and encourages them to spend on and engage with the core 5e content Wizards puts out as well.
Friend. With all due respect. Ai running a game the way they imagine it is NOT advanced. It will play like a combo between a video game and a moderate choose your own adventure.
Also, go look at chatgpt running games for people. It's a real ass thing.
Exactly this! WotC was very clear in what they promised OGL 1.0a was supposed to do, and now they are attempting to break that promise. That is unacceptable.
Plus, OGL 1.0a is a failsafe to protect the game from future business missteps and that goes far, far beyond next year's OneD&D. Do we trust WotC of 2033? 2043? OGL 1.0a's intent was to be a failsafe to allow the community to protect the game longer than any executive's tenure and their current business plans, especially since those business plans will just be changed by the next president to enter the revolving door to direct things for a few years before leaving.
If their bottom line is "damned" because they don't know how to run their business under a license they agreed to, then maybe someone else should be in charge. Past leadership found ways to leverage the OGL to greatly benefit WotC's bottom line, and in fact, the license was designed specifically to benefit WotC. Are you saying current leadership is less competent than past leadership? That the only way they can turn a profit is to try to weasel their way out of a contract that was fully intended to stay in effect?
I've been very skeptical of some of their decisions, but you must have a very dim view of their abilities if you think OGL 1.0a staying around will "damn their bottom line." Wow. Give them some credit. D&D seems to have been doing pretty well.
Not wanting to take a forced vacation from the forums for a few weeks or forever I am not going to provide links on it to meeting of the highest management and shareholders of the company that owns WOTC. Use Goggle. I will make it easier and suggest you go watch or listen to the last meeting that is on the web, the 8 December 2022 meeting.
In the first 23 minutes most of what is discussed will not mean much to those who do not follow all the previous meetings but they do introduce what has been their biggest money maker, the Magic the Gathering card game, which is introduced as a video game. Really…The one person in the meeting who must know better does not correct the presenter. Think on that.
At 23 minutes in, and for next 8 minutes, the talk is really about why they lost just under 1/2 to 1/3 their stock value over MTG mishandling, but unless you have been following them you would not understand that’s what they are talking, and denying about in the meeting.
At 31 minutes they go into D&D monetizing, the woman who cuts in is Hasbro's CEO and President of WOTC - Cynthia Williams, previously from Microsoft Transactions.
At 33 minutes she calls it DDD and gets corrected off mic that its D&D or DND and calls it DND going forward.
At 37 minutes the exciting news is Chris who came up managing MTG saying he is going to release something with our D&D fans soon. you all now know what he meant.... This again is 8 December…
You can also google the attempted hostile takeover to separate WOTC from HASBRO that failed, the meeting where they explained how HASBRO lost their European Monopoly trademark after some bad faith findings by the court, and find other things I am not mention specifically here for good reasons.
After suitable research you will realize much of what has occurred is not malice, just ignorance and greed by HASBRO, who really does do the “My way or the highway” leadership.
5E has been released under OGL 1.05a and nothing they say alters that fact. I, for one, will release content under OGL 1.05a for 5E the moment they issue language revoking OGL 1.05a and if they don't like it, I'll see them in court, along with thousands of others.
The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
1) Yeah, it's bad. Most new technologies are, until they're not. GPS and text prediction used to suck too.
2) It's moot anyway since they confirmed they're not working on it.
To be fair, what they technically confirmed is that no one is currently working on it. Not that it's not on their future project list, or up for consideration, or that there isn't some "Automagic Dungeon Master" project.
Though if it was pending, I'm guessing the project is dead now.
1) Text prediction still sucks
2) They've lied before and used weasel words in your link. Any AI development would have been farmed out to a development company that has AI as a core competency. That would mean that WotC was literally not working on it. Somebody else would be working on it for them.
The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are people independently working on it, it's the kind of thing I can imagine people considering an interesting challenge.
Exactly. Why would we believe anything WotC says about this at this point?
I just wanted to address the comment, "Your OGL 1.0a content. Nothing will impact any content you have published under OGL 1.0a. That will always be licensed under OGL 1.0a." in the update.
The past tense language of this will make people only read: "We are still planning on revoking 1.0a which means you cannot ever publish anything new using 1.0a again." If that is the intention I will tell you this: Nobody in the community is going to accept that. All this can be solved by adding "irrevocable" to Section 4 of the OGL 1.0a, calling it 1.0b, and then moving forward with an OGL 2.0. The old licenses need to continue to exist in their respective spheres for the health of the product.
Nobody at Wizards of the Coast is working on it. But talking to OpenAI about a license, well, wanna bet that's happened?