Sadly there is no Paramount+ subsciption in my country.
I'd subscribe to P+ however - solely because of the Star Trek shows, and a little bit because of the Halo series.
Star Trek was my entire reason for the Paramount+ subscription.
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The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
"The bridge is protected by an ancient trap!" - Every D&D Party Ever
In all seriousness though, the move looks neat. I was worried that it would just be a regular movie with the D&D label stuck on it. The Owlbear, Mimic, Displacer Beast, Red Wizards of Thay, and dragon convinced me otherwise.
I cannot deny it, this looks really cool and just this trailer alone blows away everything to do with the last two D&D movies. Too bad WotC pulled nonsense right now so I cannot see it.
You’re choosing not to, unless somehow you believe a) WotC has the power to directly control your actions and b) they’ve decided to use this power to make less money for some reason. I respect your decision to make your voice heard with your wallet, but in general I’m not a fan of the “why did you make me do this” position
Hey, I will still go see it if they back off the OGL 1.0a "de-authorization" idiocy. Nothing sends a message to corporations than the loss of revenue, as was evidenced by how they have handled the leak situation so far. When a corporation does something so vile that it affects how I spend my money, I feel I have no choice at all due to my standards of morality.
YMMV
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The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
Not planning on seeing it. Canceled my Paramount + subscription once the show was announced, too. Will watch it and resume Paramount + if OGL 1.0a is left alone.
Hey, I will still go see it if they back off the OGL 1.0a "de-authorization" idiocy.
If you 1.0a folks are not going to give up on this crusade like even Linda Codega is saying you should now, at least whine about it in one of the two dozen other threads dedicated to that topic, we're here to talk about the movie.
I think we should watch the DnD movie in the cinemas at the opening weekend - and I'll not boycott the TV series either. (In my country, P+ is sadly not available - I'd subscribe to it because of the Star Trek series.)
I agree with the statement "DnD is undermonetized" - I don't agree with the conclusion of the management team. Their strongest income possibilities lying in TV/movie projects. Let's face it - DnD books, Beyond subsciptions, etc. will never make huge money... good movies and TV shows, and merchandising are the real cashcows for the company. This is why this whole situation is stupid AF. OGL never covered DnD trademarks, a better management could launch movie/TV projects years ago - and TTRPG could be a little side project for them. There is no need to piss of their fanbase, the community, the 3rd party developers if you could focus your efforts to the movie industry.
1) As one suggestion, you can combine a VPN with your P+ account to see content from other countries.
2) I agree with you, these other revenue streams will be a big deal for D&D and have the potential to bring in much more than the rulebooks do without siphoning attention from the design team. (Well, minus the odd owlbear subclass they'll have to come up with.)
"The bridge is protected by an ancient trap!" - Every D&D Party Ever
In all seriousness though, the move looks neat. I was worried that it would just be a regular movie with the D&D label stuck on it. The Owlbear, Mimic, Displacer Beast, Red Wizards of Thay, and dragon convinced me otherwise.
I cannot deny it, this looks really cool and just this trailer alone blows away everything to do with the last two D&D movies. Too bad WotC pulled nonsense right now so I cannot see it.
You’re choosing not to, unless somehow you believe a) WotC has the power to directly control your actions and b) they’ve decided to use this power to make less money for some reason. I respect your decision to make your voice heard with your wallet, but in general I’m not a fan of the “why did you make me do this” position
Hey, I will still go see it if they back off the OGL 1.0a "de-authorization" idiocy. Nothing sends a message to corporations than the loss of revenue, as was evidenced by how they have handled the leak situation so far. When a corporation does something so vile that it affects how I spend my money, I feel I have no choice at all due to my standards of morality.
YMMV
I've said this before twice, but it bears repeating:
PARAMOUNT DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE OGL. YOU CANNOT BARGAIN WITH THEM. THE MOVIE HAS LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THE MOVIE AND THE OGL ARE NOT AS CONNECTED AS YOU SEEM TO INCORRECTLY BELIEVE.
I am still excited for the movie. While I would personally prefer a more grounded, gritty take on the Forgotten Realms, the movie looks great nonetheless. Its tone seems less Star Wars (episodes IV-VI) and more Guardians of the Galaxy. Not necessarily a bad thing, just personal preference.
I am still excited for the movie. While I would personally prefer a more grounded, gritty take on the Forgotten Realms, the movie looks great nonetheless. Its tone seems less Star Wars (episodes IV-VI) and more Guardians of the Galaxy. Not necessarily a bad thing, just personal preference.
im taking most of my family to see it, it looks like its gonna be one of my favorite movies ever, plan on buying it too if its actually good
I am still excited for the movie. While I would personally prefer a more grounded, gritty take on the Forgotten Realms, the movie looks great nonetheless. Its tone seems less Star Wars (episodes IV-VI) and more Guardians of the Galaxy. Not necessarily a bad thing, just personal preference.
im taking most of my family to see it, it looks like its gonna be one of my favorite movies ever, plan on buying it too if its actually good
I'm probably going to wait until release first, so I can read the reviews. I hope the movie's as good as the trailers indicate
I am still excited for the movie. While I would personally prefer a more grounded, gritty take on the Forgotten Realms, the movie looks great nonetheless. Its tone seems less Star Wars (episodes IV-VI) and more Guardians of the Galaxy. Not necessarily a bad thing, just personal preference.
im taking most of my family to see it, it looks like its gonna be one of my favorite movies ever, plan on buying it too if its actually good
I'm probably going to wait until release first, so I can read the reviews. I hope the movie's as good as the trailers indicate
its a dnd movie i gotta go see it, ive watched and own the horrible ones XD, even if this ones bad itll be a good vibe for me to go watch back on.
The trailer continues to deliver everything I want out of a D&D movie. Characters that feel like familiar D&D class tropes? Yep. Stupid jokes? Check and check. Familiar monsters? Has those in spades. Seemingly everyone being a bit of a bonehead, making dumb or careless decisions they could have easily avoided? Would it be D&D without that element?
Every single second felt like something I could see happening at one of my tables--goofy, stupid fantasy fun. I could not be more excited.
It's kinda odd, but it could just be the trailer edit team. The first trailer really seemed to me like PCs trying to figure out how to be PCs, and this trailer the cast definitely came off like PCs.
I'm also surprised how much more, to me, the trailer looks like D&D and FR.
Think I'm gonna catch this, and will show up with my own Chris Pining for a Hugh Granting of a Daniel Craig partnership cameo. Because I hold onto memes way too long.
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Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Not planning on seeing it. Canceled my Paramount + subscription once the show was announced, too. Will watch it and resume Paramount + if OGL 1.0a is left alone.
So about the channel misplacement, because technically this thread should be in Streams & Video.
Hey I wonder if we'll be getting an owlbear subclass to coincide with the Tiefling Druid character?
There, now it's D&D game-related 😃
Someone should make a Circle of the Owlbear, where you can turn into Monstrosities in addition to / instead of Beasts and post the link here. The CR limit keeps it from being too crazy I would think.
Not planning on seeing it. Canceled my Paramount + subscription once the show was announced, too. Will watch it and resume Paramount + if OGL 1.0a is left alone.
So about the channel misplacement, because technically this thread should be in Streams & Video.
Hey I wonder if we'll be getting an owlbear subclass to coincide with the Tiefling Druid character?
There, now it's D&D game-related 😃
Someone should make a Circle of the Owlbear, where you can turn into Monstrosities in addition to / instead of Beasts and post the link here. The CR limit keeps it from being too crazy I would think.
CR is what makes it mechanically viable. The beasts restriction is for flavour (and to an extent mechanically in so far as you can't turn into the BBEG and dismantle the evil empire that way, but it's mostly flavour). That's why I allow owlbears as a Wildshape.
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If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
Not planning on seeing it. Canceled my Paramount + subscription once the show was announced, too. Will watch it and resume Paramount + if OGL 1.0a is left alone.
So about the channel misplacement, because technically this thread should be in Streams & Video.
Hey I wonder if we'll be getting an owlbear subclass to coincide with the Tiefling Druid character?
There, now it's D&D game-related 😃
Someone should make a Circle of the Owlbear, where you can turn into Monstrosities in addition to / instead of Beasts and post the link here. The CR limit keeps it from being too crazy I would think.
CR is what makes it mechanically viable. The beasts restriction is for flavour (and to an extent mechanically in so far as you can't turn into the BBEG and dismantle the evil empire that way, but it's mostly flavour). That's why I allow owlbears as a Wildshape.
I would not be surprised if Beyond does one of their “monster compendium” free content drops that includes a new class or two from the movie - I would do that if I were them.
In addition to flavour, I think the biggest reason the “beast” restriction is there is for convenience and to avoid arguments like “well, it says I can animorph into something I have seen before, let me tell you about that time I ran into a Chitine. Most all of the beasts are something a person might have had reasonable involvement with, or you can reasonably estimate their contact based on backstory and where they have travelled. It also keeps the list nice and short, so you don’t end up with a player (particularly a novice player) completely overwhelmed trying to sort through a much broader set of monsters.
Personally, I’ll allow Owlbears as wild shapes - they look more like beasts and feel more like beasts than they do like monsters. I’d also be willing to make case-by-case judgments on other monstrosities or critters, depending on what my players ask me about transforming into.
As I remember, Druids in 2e Darksun could turn into Remorhaz. I know the movie isn't set in Darksun or 2e, but I don't see why a classes defining feature (for Moon Druids anyway) should become weaker as they level until endgame.
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Star Trek was my entire reason for the Paramount+ subscription.
The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
Hey, I will still go see it if they back off the OGL 1.0a "de-authorization" idiocy. Nothing sends a message to corporations than the loss of revenue, as was evidenced by how they have handled the leak situation so far. When a corporation does something so vile that it affects how I spend my money, I feel I have no choice at all due to my standards of morality.
YMMV
The age of OGL is over. The Time of the ORC has come!
The moment that WotC declares OGL 1.0a "de-authorized", "revoked" or any such nonsense is the moment I release as much content as possible under OGL 1.0a and say, "Sue me WotC". OGL1.0a cannot be revoked. If thousands of us do it, the countersuit will be a class action suit.
Cheeky.
Makes me almost forget the original post.
If you 1.0a folks are not going to give up on this crusade like even Linda Codega is saying you should now, at least whine about it in one of the two dozen other threads dedicated to that topic, we're here to talk about the movie.
1) As one suggestion, you can combine a VPN with your P+ account to see content from other countries.
2) I agree with you, these other revenue streams will be a big deal for D&D and have the potential to bring in much more than the rulebooks do without siphoning attention from the design team. (Well, minus the odd owlbear subclass they'll have to come up with.)
You could use a VPN. Here in my country i use P+ as a Channel in Prime Video
I've said this before twice, but it bears repeating:
PARAMOUNT DOES NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE OGL. YOU CANNOT BARGAIN WITH THEM. THE MOVIE HAS LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. THE MOVIE AND THE OGL ARE NOT AS CONNECTED AS YOU SEEM TO INCORRECTLY BELIEVE.
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I am still excited for the movie. While I would personally prefer a more grounded, gritty take on the Forgotten Realms, the movie looks great nonetheless. Its tone seems less Star Wars (episodes IV-VI) and more Guardians of the Galaxy. Not necessarily a bad thing, just personal preference.
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im taking most of my family to see it, it looks like its gonna be one of my favorite movies ever, plan on buying it too if its actually good
I'm probably going to wait until release first, so I can read the reviews. I hope the movie's as good as the trailers indicate
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Sadly wont see it. Maybe in 10 years on a free streaming site, but I will never pay for it.
its a dnd movie i gotta go see it, ive watched and own the horrible ones XD, even if this ones bad itll be a good vibe for me to go watch back on.
The trailer continues to deliver everything I want out of a D&D movie. Characters that feel like familiar D&D class tropes? Yep. Stupid jokes? Check and check. Familiar monsters? Has those in spades. Seemingly everyone being a bit of a bonehead, making dumb or careless decisions they could have easily avoided? Would it be D&D without that element?
Every single second felt like something I could see happening at one of my tables--goofy, stupid fantasy fun. I could not be more excited.
It's kinda odd, but it could just be the trailer edit team. The first trailer really seemed to me like PCs trying to figure out how to be PCs, and this trailer the cast definitely came off like PCs.
I'm also surprised how much more, to me, the trailer looks like D&D and FR.
Think I'm gonna catch this, and will show up with my own Chris Pining for a Hugh Granting of a Daniel Craig partnership cameo. Because I hold onto memes way too long.
Jander Sunstar is the thinking person's Drizzt, fight me.
Someone should make a Circle of the Owlbear, where you can turn into Monstrosities in addition to / instead of Beasts and post the link here. The CR limit keeps it from being too crazy I would think.
I won't be seeing it for a multitude of reasons...the OGL debacle being the least of them.
It loos amazing i can't wait to see it!! It's a movie i will watch several times for sure with so many action and D&D relatables ☺
Ikr?
CR is what makes it mechanically viable. The beasts restriction is for flavour (and to an extent mechanically in so far as you can't turn into the BBEG and dismantle the evil empire that way, but it's mostly flavour). That's why I allow owlbears as a Wildshape.
If you're not willing or able to to discuss in good faith, then don't be surprised if I don't respond, there are better things in life for me to do than humour you. This signature is that response.
I would not be surprised if Beyond does one of their “monster compendium” free content drops that includes a new class or two from the movie - I would do that if I were them.
In addition to flavour, I think the biggest reason the “beast” restriction is there is for convenience and to avoid arguments like “well, it says I can animorph into something I have seen before, let me tell you about that time I ran into a Chitine. Most all of the beasts are something a person might have had reasonable involvement with, or you can reasonably estimate their contact based on backstory and where they have travelled. It also keeps the list nice and short, so you don’t end up with a player (particularly a novice player) completely overwhelmed trying to sort through a much broader set of monsters.
Personally, I’ll allow Owlbears as wild shapes - they look more like beasts and feel more like beasts than they do like monsters. I’d also be willing to make case-by-case judgments on other monstrosities or critters, depending on what my players ask me about transforming into.
As I remember, Druids in 2e Darksun could turn into Remorhaz. I know the movie isn't set in Darksun or 2e, but I don't see why a classes defining feature (for Moon Druids anyway) should become weaker as they level until endgame.