Yeah, there was no mention of this being playtest material till after you ACTUALLY buy it and can read the introduction.
There is also no way to request a refund.
You can contact DDB support from the main page, I would suggest sending in a complaint. Although it states no refunds on digital material I am hopeful that they will realize that with the way customers are feeling tricked by this that they will honour refunds.
I wish they had been more upfront about this being an expanded toolkit of playtest materials. To be honest, I'm fine with this all being non-"canon" and still in playtest. I'm not fine with their not being extremely upfront about that.
D&D Beyond, this is my request that you edit the Marketplace storefront to acknowledge this. As well, can you please let us know if we can expect the stats/mechanics to be updated on the Character Builder as the playtesting continues? If there are major changes to the Eberron guide, will they be retroactively added to our purchase?
D&D Beyond is charging the exact same price as WotC is on th DMs Guild website. While the material is tagged as « playtest » it’s as official as it could be without being printed in hardcover
The description even lets you know, not only is it not official, but " If Wizards of the Coast decides to make this material official, it will be refined based on your feedback and then appear in a D&D book."
You will still need to buy a second product to get the information.
D&D Beyond is charging the exact same price as WotC is on th DMs Guild website. While the material is tagged as « playtest » it’s as official as it could be without being printed in hardcover
People are more concerned that you can't see on the DDB marketplace that this is playtest. You only learn after purchasing and reading the intro. We are just requesting it be properly labeled here on DDB as playtest.
And it is not as official as it could be. It is not final NOR is it AL legal, NOR is it balanced yet.
I agree that in the market place description of the product, there could be a warning that this material is a playtest.
It’s an official products as it’s WotC that asked Keith Baker to update his campagn setting to 5e and it’s WotC that did release the products, but instead of going through an harcover product, the went with a more flexible medium, that will let them uptade the product more easily with the user comments, especially since they are introducing new races, that haven’t gone through extensive playtest before. Yet I’m quite confident that from the previous Eberonn UA and Keith Baker’s input, the product is very close to be in it’s final form.
As for not being AL legal, it is some kind of a pointless argument, as AL (on WotC guidance) decide what is legal or not. Eberron isn’t as its multivers isn’t connected to the world in which AL takes place. Even if it was a hardcover, it wouldn’t be AL legal for those reasons. And before you’d point to the new Ravnica book, it’s not announced as being AL legal either...
If this does become a full book, using what's here, then those of us who bough this (not knowing it was final) should get a discount, otherwise I'd like my money back.
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"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing) You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
If this does become a full book, using what's here, then those of us who bough this (not knowing it was final) should get a discount, otherwise I'd like my money back.
I think a discount, even a small one, would be a totally fair arrangement. I'd be happy with that. Doesn't have to be the full $20 or anything like that... a bit of an acknowledgement would be nifty.
From Mearls's latest tweet, it sounds like as mechanics are refined *and Artificer added*, the Wayfinder book will be updated and become "100% sealed" (which in context, I take to mean, "no longer playtest"). So, DDB should be clearer about the labeling, but it does not look like an issue of "pay $20 now for playtest, and then pay even more later once it's official."
In response to someone asking about POD:
Lot of people asking about this for Eberron - not until the content is 100% sealed. Mechanics will run through UA and be updated in the PDF. Once those are done - and artificer added - we'll turn on POD. https://t.co/hmQNi5hPbT
I would like to have someone in the know clarify whether the "Compendium Content" on D&D Beyond is all of the same information as what is in the PDF in the DMGuild - this is one detail that is not clear to me. Thanks in advance!
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I'm wondering if the content for Eberron will make its way to the character creator?
It's on the market place already so i'm sure if someone purchased it, it would show up in the builder.
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Why are we paying for playtest material, and specifically the released UA article, is this the model moving forward?
I purchased it and the content is intriguing. But I too worry about this being a new business model for UA type material.
Particularly playtest content that isn't clearly marked as such in the Marketplace.
If this is the new norm, there should be "Official" and "Unofficial" sections of the marketplace
Agreed.
Yeah, there was no mention of this being playtest material till after you ACTUALLY buy it and can read the introduction.
There is also no way to request a refund.
You can contact DDB support from the main page, I would suggest sending in a complaint. Although it states no refunds on digital material I am hopeful that they will realize that with the way customers are feeling tricked by this that they will honour refunds.
I wish they had been more upfront about this being an expanded toolkit of playtest materials. To be honest, I'm fine with this all being non-"canon" and still in playtest. I'm not fine with their not being extremely upfront about that.
D&D Beyond, this is my request that you edit the Marketplace storefront to acknowledge this. As well, can you please let us know if we can expect the stats/mechanics to be updated on the Character Builder as the playtesting continues? If there are major changes to the Eberron guide, will they be retroactively added to our purchase?
Thank you!
This guide, from the sounds of it, wont be updated.
Its material will be used in an upcoming book they release. (Player's Guide to Ebberon?)
D&D Beyond is charging the exact same price as WotC is on th DMs Guild website. While the material is tagged as « playtest » it’s as official as it could be without being printed in hardcover
I disagree.
The description even lets you know, not only is it not official, but " If Wizards of the Coast decides to make this material official, it will be refined based on your feedback and then appear in a D&D book."
You will still need to buy a second product to get the information.
People are more concerned that you can't see on the DDB marketplace that this is playtest. You only learn after purchasing and reading the intro. We are just requesting it be properly labeled here on DDB as playtest.
And it is not as official as it could be. It is not final NOR is it AL legal, NOR is it balanced yet.
I agree that in the market place description of the product, there could be a warning that this material is a playtest.
It’s an official products as it’s WotC that asked Keith Baker to update his campagn setting to 5e and it’s WotC that did release the products, but instead of going through an harcover product, the went with a more flexible medium, that will let them uptade the product more easily with the user comments, especially since they are introducing new races, that haven’t gone through extensive playtest before. Yet I’m quite confident that from the previous Eberonn UA and Keith Baker’s input, the product is very close to be in it’s final form.
As for not being AL legal, it is some kind of a pointless argument, as AL (on WotC guidance) decide what is legal or not. Eberron isn’t as its multivers isn’t connected to the world in which AL takes place. Even if it was a hardcover, it wouldn’t be AL legal for those reasons. And before you’d point to the new Ravnica book, it’s not announced as being AL legal either...
If this does become a full book, using what's here, then those of us who bough this (not knowing it was final) should get a discount, otherwise I'd like my money back.
"Orcs are savage raiders and pillagers with stooped postures, low foreheads, and piggish faces with prominent lower canines that resemble tusks." MM p245 (original printing)
You don't OWN your books on DDB: WotC can change them any time. What do you think will happen when OneD&D comes out?
I think a discount, even a small one, would be a totally fair arrangement. I'd be happy with that. Doesn't have to be the full $20 or anything like that... a bit of an acknowledgement would be nifty.
From Mearls's latest tweet, it sounds like as mechanics are refined *and Artificer added*, the Wayfinder book will be updated and become "100% sealed" (which in context, I take to mean, "no longer playtest"). So, DDB should be clearer about the labeling, but it does not look like an issue of "pay $20 now for playtest, and then pay even more later once it's official."
In response to someone asking about POD:
I would like to have someone in the know clarify whether the "Compendium Content" on D&D Beyond is all of the same information as what is in the PDF in the DMGuild - this is one detail that is not clear to me. Thanks in advance!