The Warlock Invocation "Lessons of the First Ones" allows for the Warlock to gain an Origin Feat. Dragonmarks are not technically listed as origin feats but they are achievable with a background in the same manner as an origin feat. They are however listed (in DDB) as being acquirable with an ASI level. Just wondering if anyone else had thoughts on this???
The Warlock Invocation "Lessons of the First Ones" allows for the Warlock to gain an Origin Feat. Dragonmarks are not technically listed as origin feats but they are achievable with a background in the same manner as an origin feat. They are however listed (in DDB) as being acquirable with an ASI level. Just wondering if anyone else had thoughts on this???
No, because they're not Origin Feats. They are very specifically and explicitly defined in the rules as being a different category of feat.
They can be acquired at ASI levels because those class features allow you to take any feat that you qualify for and don't limit you to a specific category. The new Eberron book even provides suggestions for how acquiring these feats at higher levels can be worked into a story thematically, so it's quite clear that this is intentional, not just a side effect of how they're implemented in D&D Beyond.
Just because you can take them at whatever level doesn’t mean you SHOULD . You miss out on the classic “half-feats” or asi’s that boost your stats. That’s part of why I don’t get why anyone would take an extra fighter stance instead of a feat/ASI… unless multiclassing wasn’t allowed, but at that point I’d just play something else.
No, they are not a standard origin feat that can be justified through training which lessons of the first one could teach you, they are a bloodline feat that manifests with a magical mark. I really hate how they tied them to backgrounds with stats, or your level 4 feat. Absolutely terrible system. They should have had some generic background with any stat, any dragon mark to cover people who had the mark but not part of the clan. They even imply people like that exist who are then the clans try to recruit them fast, but they only allow it with a level 4 feat which thematically kind of goes to counter to it. So as a DM if I were to make a houserule, it would be on the backgrounds not on lessons of the first one. so if you want one, and the stats don't really line up with your class like 1/2 of them wont just talk with your DM on that end. Lessons of the first one would make it too easy.
No, they are not a standard origin feat that can be justified through training which lessons of the first one could teach you, they are a bloodline feat that manifests with a magical mark. I really hate how they tied them to backgrounds with stats, or your level 4 feat. Absolutely terrible system. They should have had some generic background with any stat, any dragon mark to cover people who had the mark but not part of the clan. They even imply people like that exist who are then the clans try to recruit them fast, but they only allow it with a level 4 feat which thematically kind of goes to counter to it. So as a DM if I were to make a houserule, it would be on the backgrounds not on lessons of the first one. so if you want one, and the stats don't really line up with your class like 1/2 of them wont just talk with your DM on that end. Lessons of the first one would make it too easy.
There's nothing in the rules saying that the dragonmark feats have to be taken with the backgrounds they're associated with in the book. This is exactly the kind of thing custom backgrounds, which are already part of the rules, are intended for.
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The Warlock Invocation "Lessons of the First Ones" allows for the Warlock to gain an Origin Feat. Dragonmarks are not technically listed as origin feats but they are achievable with a background in the same manner as an origin feat. They are however listed (in DDB) as being acquirable with an ASI level. Just wondering if anyone else had thoughts on this???
No, they shouldn't be allowed because they're not origin feats, technically or otherwise.
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No, because they're not Origin Feats. They are very specifically and explicitly defined in the rules as being a different category of feat.
They can be acquired at ASI levels because those class features allow you to take any feat that you qualify for and don't limit you to a specific category. The new Eberron book even provides suggestions for how acquiring these feats at higher levels can be worked into a story thematically, so it's quite clear that this is intentional, not just a side effect of how they're implemented in D&D Beyond.
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Just because you can take them at whatever level doesn’t mean you SHOULD . You miss out on the classic “half-feats” or asi’s that boost your stats. That’s part of why I don’t get why anyone would take an extra fighter stance instead of a feat/ASI… unless multiclassing wasn’t allowed, but at that point I’d just play something else.
No, they are not a standard origin feat that can be justified through training which lessons of the first one could teach you, they are a bloodline feat that manifests with a magical mark. I really hate how they tied them to backgrounds with stats, or your level 4 feat. Absolutely terrible system. They should have had some generic background with any stat, any dragon mark to cover people who had the mark but not part of the clan. They even imply people like that exist who are then the clans try to recruit them fast, but they only allow it with a level 4 feat which thematically kind of goes to counter to it. So as a DM if I were to make a houserule, it would be on the backgrounds not on lessons of the first one. so if you want one, and the stats don't really line up with your class like 1/2 of them wont just talk with your DM on that end. Lessons of the first one would make it too easy.
There's nothing in the rules saying that the dragonmark feats have to be taken with the backgrounds they're associated with in the book. This is exactly the kind of thing custom backgrounds, which are already part of the rules, are intended for.
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