"The relevant feature of a master tier subscription is paying to share purchased content. Given that subscriber drops are not purchased, not being able to share them doesn't interact with that feature."
All other free content is sharable. The relevant feature is that OWNED content is sharable, not purchased content.
I mean, I loath the truism "You don't own anything digitally", for these content drops that kinda the case. You have access to them as long as you have a subscription, you don't own them. They're not purchased or claimed, they're active subscription perks. It's more akin to how you can't re-share shared content.
And even if you did "own" the drop content, that wouldn't change the substance of my point that the content being sharable cannot possibly deduct value because it's a perk of the subscription itself, granted without any increase in cost. It's purely additive value, not at all logically subtractive simply because it's not shareable. The only way you can subtract value from the subscription would be to either remove options or increase the price.
"The relevant feature of a master tier subscription is paying to share purchased content. Given that subscriber drops are not purchased, not being able to share them doesn't interact with that feature."
All other free content is sharable. The relevant feature is that OWNED content is sharable, not purchased content.
I mean, I loath the truism "You don't own anything digitally", for these content drops that kinda the case. You have access to them as long as you have a subscription, you don't own them. They're not purchased or claimed, they're active subscription perks. It's more akin to how you can't re-share shared content.
And even if you did "own" the drop content, that wouldn't change the substance of my point that the content being sharable cannot possibly deduct value because it's a perk of the subscription itself, granted without any increase in cost. It's purely additive value, not at all logically subtractive simply because it's not shareable. The only way you can subtract value from the subscription would be to either remove options or increase the price.
"The relevant feature of a master tier subscription is paying to share purchased content. Given that subscriber drops are not purchased, not being able to share them doesn't interact with that feature."
All other free content is sharable. The relevant feature is that OWNED content is sharable, not purchased content.
I mean, I loath the truism "You don't own anything digitally", for these content drops that kinda the case. You have access to them as long as you have a subscription, you don't own them. They're not purchased or claimed, they're active subscription perks. It's more akin to how you can't re-share shared content.
And even if you did "own" the drop content, that wouldn't change the substance of my point that the content being sharable cannot possibly deduct value because it's a perk of the subscription itself, granted without any increase in cost. It's purely additive value, not at all logically subtractive simply because it's not shareable. The only way you can subtract value from the subscription would be to either remove options or increase the price.
But the distinction between owned and licensed isn't any different from Drops, any book and any freely claimed content either
There's no difference. The pedantry here doesn't matter.
Ok there's a lot of posts happening quickly and I can't keep up but I am seriously struggling to understand what the opposition to drops still is?
If you're a player who has a Hero sub, you get a lot of extras for free. If the DM doesn't have any sub and wants to see them then you can share them via a number of ways. Easiest is a screenshot, or you can make a homebrew copy since homebrew is automatically shared no sub needed. Either way, very easy for the DM to still be able to see and approve. This is no different than if a player had a book like Xanathars or Tasha's or whatever - ask the DM if you can play, give them details, they approve or decline. So all normal standard fare here. Nothing to argue over unless you also disapprove of players having books the DM doesn't - in which case you're weird and shouldn't be a DM and probably need some form of therapy (control issues red flag).
If you're a DM with a hero or master sub you can let your players know and can share info via screenshot or make homebrew copies or just go in and add it to their sheet. Either way this is a way to share the content without the players needing any subs. Also, it has been mentioned they are looking into possibly making the player options shareable via Content Sharing to bypass that minor inconvenience.
People have been asking for subs that unlock content since day 1. People have been asking for their subs, particularly Hero subs, to give them more than the monthly perks have been giving them. WotC have listened and are coming up with a way to do precisely this.
It's free extra content. A sub to obtain and a minor inconvenience to make it permanently available no subs needed forevermore.
It's shareable with your whole party no subs needed with a minor inconvenience.
The minor inconvenience to sharing could end up bypass-able by getting a higher sub.
Fans have been asking for this and WotC are finally agreeing.
And yet people are arguing and upset? Why? No matter how much I try to read these arguments there is no reason that specifically details these points and explains why they're bad. Paywalls? Non-issue, same as any book or whatever. Not-Shareable Via Master Tier? Non-issue, they are indeed very easily shared with everyone in your campaign and you don't need a sub to do that either. Some waffle-y attempts at making up some WotC nefarious intent or "classist" divide? Non-issue - it's obtainable for a 1-month hero tier and can be shared with everyone in the campaign easily and this is all something fans have asked for since the beginning.
Can somebody 'explain like I'm 5' why WotC giving these free extra bonuses that are usable by the whole party, in response to fans requesting this, is somehow a bad thing?
"Oh no, it's $3 and 2-3 mins of inconvenience for my entire party to have extra player options, oh no, this is terrible" --- like, seriously, what?
It's like somebody complaining to the chef that the food tastes too good. I don't understand.
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Here is the list of features for Master tier from the subscribe pages as of April 15th according to the Wayback machine:
Share purchased content with friends Two weeks of early access to new books Use homebrew monsters on Maps VTT Upload custom maps with Maps VTT
And here it is now:
Two week early access to core rulebooks Create unlimited characters Create unlimited encounters Add publicly shared homebrew content Exclusive subscriber perks every month Share unlocked content with other players Use homebrew monsters on Maps VTT Upload custom maps with Maps VTT
Nothing has been removed, only added. Saying that the Master Tier has less value because they've decided to add extra content for subscribers is patently ridiculous. They have expanded subscriber perks. That's it.
Can somebody 'explain like I'm 5' why WotC giving these free extra bonuses that are usable by the whole party, in response to fans requesting this, is somehow a bad thing?
People who've wrapped their entire self worth up in D&D but also have a pathological belief that WOTC is a comic book villian, have decided that this is proof that they're going to take away our ability to own anything, and force every player to pay a subscription.
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I mean, I loath the truism "You don't own anything digitally", for these content drops that kinda the case. You have access to them as long as you have a subscription, you don't own them. They're not purchased or claimed, they're active subscription perks. It's more akin to how you can't re-share shared content.
And even if you did "own" the drop content, that wouldn't change the substance of my point that the content being sharable cannot possibly deduct value because it's a perk of the subscription itself, granted without any increase in cost. It's purely additive value, not at all logically subtractive simply because it's not shareable. The only way you can subtract value from the subscription would be to either remove options or increase the price.
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But the distinction between owned and licensed isn't any different from Drops, any book and any freely claimed content either
There's no difference. The pedantry here doesn't matter.
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Ok there's a lot of posts happening quickly and I can't keep up but I am seriously struggling to understand what the opposition to drops still is?
If you're a player who has a Hero sub, you get a lot of extras for free. If the DM doesn't have any sub and wants to see them then you can share them via a number of ways. Easiest is a screenshot, or you can make a homebrew copy since homebrew is automatically shared no sub needed. Either way, very easy for the DM to still be able to see and approve. This is no different than if a player had a book like Xanathars or Tasha's or whatever - ask the DM if you can play, give them details, they approve or decline. So all normal standard fare here. Nothing to argue over unless you also disapprove of players having books the DM doesn't - in which case you're weird and shouldn't be a DM and probably need some form of therapy (control issues red flag).
If you're a DM with a hero or master sub you can let your players know and can share info via screenshot or make homebrew copies or just go in and add it to their sheet. Either way this is a way to share the content without the players needing any subs. Also, it has been mentioned they are looking into possibly making the player options shareable via Content Sharing to bypass that minor inconvenience.
People have been asking for subs that unlock content since day 1. People have been asking for their subs, particularly Hero subs, to give them more than the monthly perks have been giving them. WotC have listened and are coming up with a way to do precisely this.
And yet people are arguing and upset? Why? No matter how much I try to read these arguments there is no reason that specifically details these points and explains why they're bad. Paywalls? Non-issue, same as any book or whatever. Not-Shareable Via Master Tier? Non-issue, they are indeed very easily shared with everyone in your campaign and you don't need a sub to do that either. Some waffle-y attempts at making up some WotC nefarious intent or "classist" divide? Non-issue - it's obtainable for a 1-month hero tier and can be shared with everyone in the campaign easily and this is all something fans have asked for since the beginning.
Can somebody 'explain like I'm 5' why WotC giving these free extra bonuses that are usable by the whole party, in response to fans requesting this, is somehow a bad thing?
"Oh no, it's $3 and 2-3 mins of inconvenience for my entire party to have extra player options, oh no, this is terrible" --- like, seriously, what?
It's like somebody complaining to the chef that the food tastes too good. I don't understand.
Click ✨ HERE ✨ For My Youtube Videos featuring Guides, Tips & Tricks for using D&D Beyond.
Need help with Homebrew? Check out ✨ this FAQ/Guide thread ✨ by IamSposta.
Here is the list of features for Master tier from the subscribe pages as of April 15th according to the Wayback machine:
Share purchased content with friends
Two weeks of early access to new books
Use homebrew monsters on Maps VTT
Upload custom maps with Maps VTT
And here it is now:
Two week early access to core rulebooks
Create unlimited characters
Create unlimited encounters
Add publicly shared homebrew content
Exclusive subscriber perks every month
Share unlocked content with other players
Use homebrew monsters on Maps VTT
Upload custom maps with Maps VTT
Nothing has been removed, only added. Saying that the Master Tier has less value because they've decided to add extra content for subscribers is patently ridiculous. They have expanded subscriber perks. That's it.
People who've wrapped their entire self worth up in D&D but also have a pathological belief that WOTC is a comic book villian, have decided that this is proof that they're going to take away our ability to own anything, and force every player to pay a subscription.