It is a bit strange that we’re coming up for two years since the new PHB dropped and we’ve yet to see an actual campaign for 5.5. That’s a very big and obvious gap in their releases. When even was the last campaign? Vecna in 2024 which sold badly, before that there was Phandelver and Below that was essential a retread of LMoP and a rerelease of Tyranny of Dragons. I think before that it was Dragonlance, in 2022 which again sold badly. Maybe they’ve taken the wrong lesson and instead of “bad things sell badly” they’ve decided it’s campaigns themselves that do
I remember seeing a lot of "Why do you keep making campaigns, I just want anthologies" posts. The most recent adventure books were (in reverse chron, ignoring starters)
Dungeon Delves (2024)
Quests from the Infinite Staircase
Vecna: Eve of Ruin
Phandelver and Below
Keys from the Golden Vault
Tyranny of Dragons (re-release)
Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen
Journeys through the Radiant Citadel
Critical Role: Call of the Netherdeep
Wild Beyond the Witchlight
Candlekeep Mysteries
icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden
So I'm not sure that it's a case of "They don't do campaigns" but more of a "They're focused on the source books, not the campaigns" right now. Remembering that every sourcebook has had a number of adventures (ignoring Heroes of Faerun for obvious reasons), and if you include Last Flight of the Recluse. The Adventures in Faerun book is filled with them and so is the Ravenloft book, and I really wish they'd done the same for Eberron.
I think it's more a case of "We need to update everything, and people can still play the old campaigns with new rules", but I do hope they come up with some new campaigns at some point.
It is a bit strange that we’re coming up for two years since the new PHB dropped and we’ve yet to see an actual campaign for 5.5. That’s a very big and obvious gap in their releases. When even was the last campaign? Vecna in 2024 which sold badly, before that there was Phandelver and Below that was essential a retread of LMoP and a rerelease of Tyranny of Dragons. I think before that it was Dragonlance, in 2022 which again sold badly. Maybe they’ve taken the wrong lesson and instead of “bad things sell badly” they’ve decided it’s campaigns themselves that do
I remember seeing a lot of "Why do you keep making campaigns, I just want anthologies" posts. The most recent adventure books were (in reverse chron, ignoring starters)
Dungeon Delves (2024)
Quests from the Infinite Staircase
Vecna: Eve of Ruin
Phandelver and Below
Keys from the Golden Vault
Tyranny of Dragons (re-release)
Dragonlance: Shadow of the Dragon Queen
Journeys through the Radiant Citadel
Critical Role: Call of the Netherdeep
Wild Beyond the Witchlight
Candlekeep Mysteries
icewind Dale: Rime of the Frostmaiden
So I'm not sure that it's a case of "They don't do campaigns" but more of a "They're focused on the source books, not the campaigns" right now. Remembering that every sourcebook has had a number of adventures (ignoring Heroes of Faerun for obvious reasons), and if you include Last Flight of the Recluse. The Adventures in Faerun book is filled with them and so is the Ravenloft book, and I really wish they'd done the same for Eberron.
I think it's more a case of "We need to update everything, and people can still play the old campaigns with new rules", but I do hope they come up with some new campaigns at some point.
The anthologies are good, some of them are great, it would just be nice to get something with a storyline again that doesn’t need me to think of a way to string together a dozen one shots
Do you mean "Deadfall" because it's just described as an adventure expansion, not a campaign.
As far as I can tell they haven't used the term "adventure expansion" before, so we don't know exactly what it is. However, Dragon Delves (which uses the same trade dress of that red bar across the bottom of the book) is called an "adventure anthology", and Ravenloft (which also uses that trade dress) is a "gameplay expansion". That tells us that it's presumably neither an anthology nor a campaign setting, so by default I'd guess it's a large scale adventure.
Do you mean "Deadfall" because it's just described as an adventure expansion, not a campaign.
As far as I can tell they haven't used the term "adventure expansion" before, so we don't know exactly what it is. However, Dragon Delves (which uses the same trade dress of that red bar across the bottom of the book) is called an "adventure anthology", and Ravenloft (which also uses that trade dress) is a "gameplay expansion". That tells us that it's presumably neither an anthology nor a campaign setting, so by default I'd guess it's a large scale adventure.
Hmm, odd. I only have the digital copy of Dungeon Delves, which doesn't feature the bottom banner in the library. Only the Ravenloft stuff has it.
The description for Deadfall on that page seem to indicate it is a full adventure. I think the "expansion" is referring to it being part of the Season of Arcana/Magic series. New term for same-old/same-old. Probably something we'll see more of if they stick with the seasons format.
So it seems like it is an "Expansion that is an Adventure" what we used to just call Adventures. I can see the naming convention, but was initially confused, as 'Adventure Expansion' sounds like what you would call an Expansion TO an Adventure.
Yes i know the naming convention is because they are separating the Mechanical Expansions (Gameplay Expansion) and the Adventures so we can have more modularity in our purchases, so no need to lecture me on that.
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But is "Full Adventure" the equivalent of "Lost Mines of Phandelver", or "Storm King's Thunder". The Campaign vs Adventure nomenclature has broken down over the years and doesn't seem to have the same structure of "An Adventure is made up of a handful of sessions, and a Campaign is made up of a number of Adventures".
So the question is, how long will Deadfall take to play through? 2 sessions, 10 sessions, or 104 sessions?
Been wondering the same. I think we will just have to wait and see.
Also wondering at its quality. Will it be worth running on its own or is it going to be another one of those "Mixer Adventures" where you just use bits of it in homebrew campaigns.
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I remember seeing a lot of "Why do you keep making campaigns, I just want anthologies" posts. The most recent adventure books were (in reverse chron, ignoring starters)
So I'm not sure that it's a case of "They don't do campaigns" but more of a "They're focused on the source books, not the campaigns" right now. Remembering that every sourcebook has had a number of adventures (ignoring Heroes of Faerun for obvious reasons), and if you include Last Flight of the Recluse. The Adventures in Faerun book is filled with them and so is the Ravenloft book, and I really wish they'd done the same for Eberron.
I think it's more a case of "We need to update everything, and people can still play the old campaigns with new rules", but I do hope they come up with some new campaigns at some point.
The anthologies are good, some of them are great, it would just be nice to get something with a storyline again that doesn’t need me to think of a way to string together a dozen one shots
We're going to have a campaing this year, is in the roadmap
*Dragon Delves
As enamored as I am with the beasts myself, I've made this same mistake more than once.
Lol me thinking that I missed a book when in reality that book has such a Quantum Name. They should have just called it "Dungeon and Dragon Delves
https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/2136-d-d-2026-calendar-release
Care to point out where? If you mean deadfall, it's not described as a Campaign.
You wrote "Dungeon Delves (2024)"
I was simply pointing out the mistake, and that it was common enough for me to make it as well.
Sorry, quoted the wrong post.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/2136-d-d-2026-calendar-release
Do you mean "Deadfall" because it's just described as an adventure expansion, not a campaign.
As far as I can tell they haven't used the term "adventure expansion" before, so we don't know exactly what it is. However, Dragon Delves (which uses the same trade dress of that red bar across the bottom of the book) is called an "adventure anthology", and Ravenloft (which also uses that trade dress) is a "gameplay expansion". That tells us that it's presumably neither an anthology nor a campaign setting, so by default I'd guess it's a large scale adventure.
Hmm, odd. I only have the digital copy of Dungeon Delves, which doesn't feature the bottom banner in the library. Only the Ravenloft stuff has it.
The description for Deadfall on that page seem to indicate it is a full adventure. I think the "expansion" is referring to it being part of the Season of Arcana/Magic series. New term for same-old/same-old. Probably something we'll see more of if they stick with the seasons format.
So it seems like it is an "Expansion that is an Adventure" what we used to just call Adventures. I can see the naming convention, but was initially confused, as 'Adventure Expansion' sounds like what you would call an Expansion TO an Adventure.
Yes i know the naming convention is because they are separating the Mechanical Expansions (Gameplay Expansion) and the Adventures so we can have more modularity in our purchases, so no need to lecture me on that.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World
But is "Full Adventure" the equivalent of "Lost Mines of Phandelver", or "Storm King's Thunder". The Campaign vs Adventure nomenclature has broken down over the years and doesn't seem to have the same structure of "An Adventure is made up of a handful of sessions, and a Campaign is made up of a number of Adventures".
So the question is, how long will Deadfall take to play through? 2 sessions, 10 sessions, or 104 sessions?
Been wondering the same. I think we will just have to wait and see.
Also wondering at its quality. Will it be worth running on its own or is it going to be another one of those "Mixer Adventures" where you just use bits of it in homebrew campaigns.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World