So I've seen videos where Dan Ayoub says he is doing an apology tour for D&D... Maybe I'm out of the loop or just misunderstanding but what exactly is he apologizing for?
Wouldn't the videos that you are seeing give context? Links please? Cause I haven't heard about any of this.
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Not trying to be suspiciously vague at all... I'll try to link the videos but he said it multiple times in GenCon interview/announcement videos... if anything he's being vague about what exactly he is apologizing for.
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Not trying to be suspiciously vague at all... I'll try to link the videos but he said it multiple times in GenCon interview/announcement videos... if anything he's being vague about what exactly he is apologizing for.
Seems like you missed another opportunity to link the video and you're still being vague.
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Make of that what you will.
Don't trust any AI generated summary, they're as likely to hallucinate as to give you some misinformation from Reddit.
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Make of that what you will.
Don't trust any AI generated summary, they're as likely to hallucinate as to give you some misinformation from Reddit.
Here's a specific quote but there are definitely more videos referencing it that I don't want to promote just do a search on Dan Ayoub apology tour...
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Make of that what you will.
Don't trust any AI generated summary, they're as likely to hallucinate as to give you some misinformation from Reddit.
I've had a little dig but the only reference I can find comes from an article on Fandompulse, link here to their article (if you don't mind subscribing to it):
The fandom pulse post is too vague, so i see why you are confused. It doesn't say anything about anything.
Sure the company have done a lot of things wrong but then they have also been lambasted for things that aren't a problem, and are blown out of proportion. And i have no idea which of these he is apologizing for.
They did a few pieces that had LGBTQ representation and cozy vibes and everyone is acting like it is suddenly a mandatory dating simulator and that we will no longer be able to melt people into puddles of bubbling gore with first level spells. That was outrage mill BS with 10000ccs of Hyperbole.
Then there were the things that actually were stabs in the back but I don't want to into them because that will start an argument with some of the Sycophants that think the corp can do no wrong. it can be a touchy topic.
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He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player. The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call To rise up in triumph should we all unite The spark for change is yours to ignite." Kalandra - The State of the World
While I can find references to Day Ayoub and apology tour, as far as I can tell Dan Ayoub has never explained what he means by that beyond a general attempt to mend broken bridges.
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Make of that what you will.
Don't trust any AI generated summary, they're as likely to hallucinate as to give you some misinformation from Reddit.
Here's a specific quote but there are definitely more videos referencing it that I don't want to promote just do a search on Dan Ayoub apology tour...
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Make of that what you will.
Don't trust any AI generated summary, they're as likely to hallucinate as to give you some misinformation from Reddit.
Here's a specific quote but there are definitely more videos referencing it that I don't want to promote just do a search on Dan Ayoub apology tour...
While I can find references to Day Ayoub and apology tour, as far as I can tell Dan Ayoub has never explained what he means by that beyond a general attempt to mend broken bridges.
Thanks, I'm trying to understand what exactly he is apologizing for because his apology is definitely being used by some as announcing a stance that WotC is now taking, and if so I'd like to be clear that is what he meant.
Thanks, I'm trying to understand what exactly he is apologizing for because his apology is definitely being used by some as announcing a stance that WotC is now taking, and if so I'd like to be clear that is what he meant.
I'm pretty sure the lack of clarity is intended. It certainly does not indicate an official new stance by WotC; anything official would be announced in an official manner.
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Make of that what you will.
Don't trust any AI generated summary, they're as likely to hallucinate as to give you some misinformation from Reddit.
Here's a specific quote but there are definitely more videos referencing it that I don't want to promote just do a search on Dan Ayoub apology tour...
Edit: Even some of the posters below are asking...what exactly is he apologizing for.
So you saw this video yourself, but cannot/will not share a link to it? And instead you're sharing a second hand source?
The sus-o-meter is rising
It was the WotC GenCon Keynote video... What's sus is you steadily questioning when I've given you a direct quote vs. the video... not second hand.
That's not a direct link to the video, that's a link to a facebook post. I pulled up the D&D Visions Keynote 2027 and cannot find him saying anything about apologizing in any of the segments where he was talking.
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Make of that what you will.
Don't trust any AI generated summary, they're as likely to hallucinate as to give you some misinformation from Reddit.
Here's a specific quote but there are definitely more videos referencing it that I don't want to promote just do a search on Dan Ayoub apology tour...
Edit: Even some of the posters below are asking...what exactly is he apologizing for.
So you saw this video yourself, but cannot/will not share a link to it? And instead you're sharing a second hand source?
The sus-o-meter is rising
It was the WotC GenCon Keynote video... What's sus is you steadily questioning when I've given you a direct quote vs. the video... not second hand.
That's not a direct link to the video, that's a link to a facebook post. I pulled up the D&D Visions Keynote 2027 and cannot find him saying anything about apologizing in any of the segments where he was talking.
I think it's suspicious that you've yet to provide a link to the video you've seen
Suspicious in what way? Are you saying it wasn't said... because I and others have provided the quote, so what exactly are your suspicions since I myself am asking for clarification around it.
Fandom Pulse appears to be Jon Del Arroz's site, and that guy's a sad little "anti-woke" hack, so lol
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So there's no video of him saying this and the only sources are a Fandom Pulse article and a Fandom Pulse Facebook post referencing the same Fandom Pulse article. Doesn't exactly fit the rigor I expect to take a claim seriously.
Feels more like one of those situations where even if something was said, it's being reported by someone trying to ascribe a meaning to it that fits their own agenda.
Ayoub posted an article on D&D Beyond outlining his vision for the game. While the article did not explicitly call out the prior leadership of D&D, it did explicitly address a number of pain points with how the game was perceived under previous management.
Points he discusses include better interfacing with the community, reducing financial barriers to entry, and ensuring the SRD remains strong as a living document. Those are all things that have caused issues in the past, and it is great to see him listing all these issues as immediate priorities for his tenure. Well worth giving the article a read if you want to hear directly from him about his thoughts.
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So I've seen videos where Dan Ayoub says he is doing an apology tour for D&D... Maybe I'm out of the loop or just misunderstanding but what exactly is he apologizing for?
Suspiciously vague first post. Why not link to the video where he says this, which would presumably provide the context you're looking for?
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Wouldn't the videos that you are seeing give context?
Links please? Cause I haven't heard about any of this.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World
Not trying to be suspiciously vague at all... I'll try to link the videos but he said it multiple times in GenCon interview/announcement videos... if anything he's being vague about what exactly he is apologizing for.
Well, according to the miracle that is Google AI:
"Dan Ayoub, the head of Dungeons & Dragons at Wizards of the Coast, refers to his listening sessions with the community as an "apology tour" because the brand lost the trust of its fanbase over prior years due to a multitude of controversial business and product decision".
Make of that what you will.
Seems like you missed another opportunity to link the video and you're still being vague.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
Don't trust any AI generated summary, they're as likely to hallucinate as to give you some misinformation from Reddit.
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
Here's a specific quote but there are definitely more videos referencing it that I don't want to promote just do a search on Dan Ayoub apology tour...
https://www.facebook.com/61554661645263/posts/dd-head-dan-ayoub-admits-hes-been-on-an-apology-tour-for-what-theyve-done-with-t/122268196508155388/
Edit: Even some of the posters below are asking...what exactly is he apologizing for.
I've had a little dig but the only reference I can find comes from an article on Fandompulse, link here to their article (if you don't mind subscribing to it):
https://www.fandompulse.com/p/can-dungeons-and-dragons-save-itself
link to their facebook here:
https://www.facebook.com/61554661645263/posts/dd-head-dan-ayoub-admits-hes-been-on-an-apology-tour-for-what-theyve-done-with-t/122268196508155388/
The fandom pulse post is too vague, so i see why you are confused. It doesn't say anything about anything.
Sure the company have done a lot of things wrong but then they have also been lambasted for things that aren't a problem, and are blown out of proportion.
And i have no idea which of these he is apologizing for.
They did a few pieces that had LGBTQ representation and cozy vibes and everyone is acting like it is suddenly a mandatory dating simulator and that we will no longer be able to melt people into puddles of bubbling gore with first level spells.
That was outrage mill BS with 10000ccs of Hyperbole.
Then there were the things that actually were stabs in the back but I don't want to into them because that will start an argument with some of the Sycophants that think the corp can do no wrong.
it can be a touchy topic.
He/Him. Loooooooooong time Player.
The Dark days of the THAC0 system are behind us.
"Hope is a fire that burns in us all If only an ember, awaiting your call
To rise up in triumph should we all unite
The spark for change is yours to ignite."
Kalandra - The State of the World
While I can find references to Day Ayoub and apology tour, as far as I can tell Dan Ayoub has never explained what he means by that beyond a general attempt to mend broken bridges.
So you saw this video yourself, but cannot/will not share a link to it? And instead you're sharing a second hand source?
The sus-o-meter is rising
Find my D&D Beyond articles here
It was the WotC GenCon Keynote video... What's sus is you steadily questioning when I've given you a direct quote vs. the video... not second hand.
Thanks, I'm trying to understand what exactly he is apologizing for because his apology is definitely being used by some as announcing a stance that WotC is now taking, and if so I'd like to be clear that is what he meant.
I'm pretty sure the lack of clarity is intended. It certainly does not indicate an official new stance by WotC; anything official would be announced in an official manner.
That's not a direct link to the video, that's a link to a facebook post. I pulled up the D&D Visions Keynote 2027 and cannot find him saying anything about apologizing in any of the segments where he was talking.
Dan introduces the keynote 16m52
Seasons of champions / D&D X Wow / D&D | Universes Beyond
Closing out keynote with summary
I think it's suspicious that you've yet to provide a link to the video you've seen
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Suspicious in what way? Are you saying it wasn't said... because I and others have provided the quote, so what exactly are your suspicions since I myself am asking for clarification around it.
Fandom Pulse appears to be Jon Del Arroz's site, and that guy's a sad little "anti-woke" hack, so lol
Active characters:
Edoumiaond Willegume "Eddie" Podslee, Vegetanian scholar (College of Spirits bard)
Lan Kidogo, mapach archaeologist and treasure hunter (Knowledge cleric)
Peter "the Pied Piper" Hausler, human con artist/remover of vermin (Circle of the Shepherd druid)
PIPA - Planar Interception/Protection Aeormaton, warforged bodyguard and ex-wizard hunter (Warrior of the Elements monk/Cartographer artificer)
Xhekhetiel, halfling survivor of a Betrayer Gods cult (Runechild sorcerer/fighter)
So there's no video of him saying this and the only sources are a Fandom Pulse article and a Fandom Pulse Facebook post referencing the same Fandom Pulse article. Doesn't exactly fit the rigor I expect to take a claim seriously.
Feels more like one of those situations where even if something was said, it's being reported by someone trying to ascribe a meaning to it that fits their own agenda.
Ayoub posted an article on D&D Beyond outlining his vision for the game. While the article did not explicitly call out the prior leadership of D&D, it did explicitly address a number of pain points with how the game was perceived under previous management.
Points he discusses include better interfacing with the community, reducing financial barriers to entry, and ensuring the SRD remains strong as a living document. Those are all things that have caused issues in the past, and it is great to see him listing all these issues as immediate priorities for his tenure. Well worth giving the article a read if you want to hear directly from him about his thoughts.