From nothing to a full set of "books" i spent roughly $311 USD. I bought 22 items and applied a 25% off coupon in addition to the Cyber Monday discount. I now have the ability to pay $98 USD to "complete" the Legendary Bundle, but have no desire to do so. The last time the bundle was 25% off (PAX Prime 2018) it was $298 USD for everything. I walked away with Ravnica and Mad Mage for a few dollars extra. They probably won't have another deal for a long while, so strike while the iron is hot.
EDIT: I hightly reccomend looking at DMSGuild before its Cyber Monday deals vanish. Great PDF version of Ebberon on there at a discount as well.
So I have yet to buy a book on DnD Beyond. Was looking at the Legendary Package. But with the BF cost of books and using a code on top of it I can pay $311 for all 22 source books (not sure how the Legendary gets 28 books???).
Legendary: $414.78
All Books Seperate: $414.78 - discount code = 311.08
That is a difference of $103.70
Am I missing something here??? The 15% discount for the future does not seem work it...
Also wish the would release the rest of the MTG (Magic the Gathering) world kits like Amonkhet, Ixalan, Innistrad, etc
I bought them today for the $311.08. Other than the 15% discount on future purchases, it gives everything. Just purchase the Legendary set next time a book comes out, should only cost you $20ish. Or just keep using whatever the current 25% discount is at the time.
I'd expect people aren't missing stuff on this as it seems the individual purchases come out to what a 25% off on a legendary bundle would result in. Thus the trick would be to upgrade later once one of those 25% Legendary bundle discounts is active.
As it is for those of us that don't want everything this puts prices around the level of a discounted legendary bundle (or cheaper) per part.
Note, however, that the bundle says it comes with "28" sources, but there are only "22" sources that you can manually add to your cart, so maybe I'm missing something in terms of what content is available without buying the bundle?
The tales from the yawning portal are 7 short adventures in 1. That accounts for the extra 6.
Note, however, that the bundle says it comes with "28" sources, but there are only "22" sources that you can manually add to your cart, so maybe I'm missing something in terms of what content is available without buying the bundle?
The tales from the yawning portal are 7 short adventures in 1. That accounts for the extra 6.
That may be - Tales lists each adventure as a separate sources and I hadn't realized that before. Apparently reading comprehension isn't my friend.
I noticed the discrepancy in buying the Legendary Bundle after owning some of the individual books myself.
i.e. I bought the entire 22 book library today, as it was a heck of a sale and my group is likely to be switching to 5th soon. As a test (I had the time) I bought 21 books using Samisourhero - everything EXCEPT Kwalish. I think it was Kwalish. It was one of the 9.99 ones.
Since there are 22 separate books listed in the Legendary bundle (and based on DxJxC's comments about TftYP being 7 separate sources because MATH!) that means I should have only had 1 book left over. And that based, on the reduction the Legendary Bundle stipulations on the site, meantit should have cost me like...10 bucks minus the 15% discount built in.
When I went to try to buy the Legendary bundle it gave me a cost of more than 100$ (Sorry, didn't write down the exact total).
I bought Kwalish using the fall25 code(hey, two bucks is two bucks!) and it took the Legendary Bundle down to a cost of $98.70.
If I had to hazard a guess, it's because the following:
(Disclaimer - this is Supposition and Hypothesis. DO NOT take what I'm going to say below and scream that Curse/Twitch/Amazon/The Illuminati are trying to rob you of your money)
Intentional or otherwise - the sale prices are fouling out the system's calculation of the Legendary Bundle. It's looking at your account and saying 'Oh, you own Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica! GREAT! We will pull the cost off your Legendary Bundle!' Then the system is looking at the current price, $19.99 and removing THAT amount rather than the standard $29.99.
This would MAYBE be possible to verify if I still had access to the individual costs of the books. Quick addition, multiplication, some subtraction, a little cyan pepper...and results.
The only other reason why the Legendary Bundle would be so much is if there are hidden sources in there they don't mention. Possible, but I think by now the community would be aware. I mean, I can see having a small surcharge in there for the future 15% off discount...but with nearly a $100.00 charge, that means you'd have to buy 21.7 books normally priced at 29.99 to start seeing the benefit of that discount.
The question I'd have is...if I'm right (and there's a first time for everything) - once the sale is over will this revert? Is there any way to get the full credit of our purchase on the bundle? Sure, i can't buy it now - cuz there's nothing left for me to buy in the marketplace...but I'd like to get it in the future.
NOTE: Edited because apparently typing at 03:00 PT isn't my friend, either.
I can explain some of the marketplace mechanics around Legendary bundles.
The price of the Legendary Bundle is reduced by the amount you have spent.
If you were to purchase a Player's Handbook for $29.99 then the price of the Legendary Bundle would be reduced by $29.99.
If you were to purchase that Player's Handbook during the Cyber Monday sale ($19.99 base) using a special offer code for further reduction to $14.99, then the price of the Legendary Bundle would be reduced by only $14.99
This doesn't change - the system knows how much you spent on your purchases and it is this amount that is credited towards the Legendary Bundle.
We understand that people desire as much discount as possible, but there have to be limits. If purchasing the Player's Handbook for $14.99 gave you $29.99 of credit towards the Legendary Bundle, then using discount codes for the Legendary Bundle on top of that would result in a massive overall discount.
It is possible to purchase the books slightly cheaper than the Legendary Bundle, by using the sale and combining with special offers.
Cool - thanks for the clarification. I honestly saw it being something along those lines and is both logical AND fair from a marketing standpoint. This is a company after all - and at the end of the day, as much as you're obviously trying to give people discounts - if you're not making money,..
I've spent more on all of the books individually than someone would buying the legendary bundle at 25% discount, which I know many people have. Yet I still would need to pay $80 more to get the legendary bundle discount. That's hardly fair, is it?
Sales come and go, as do discount codes - that's the nature of modern retail and, as demonstrated by the threads over the weekend, it is something that people not only expect, but pretty much demand.
It means that it's possible to purchase content at a lower cost by waiting for specific circumstances.
It's like buying some new clothes and then a month later they are on half price sale - yes, you are a little annoyed that you could have waited, but similarly there was no guarantee of that sale and you have had a month of use out of them already.
I'm not sure that it's reasonable to call it unfair if you're not receiving as much discount as you would like at the time you would like.
I have always looked at it this way when I bought an item and then it went on sale later....
Yes I am upset I could have waited and gotten a better price, I mean we are all human after all
If everyone waited and didn’t buy before the sale, there may not have been a sale to get rid of the last of the stocked items (more so on physical items)
At the time I did buy it, I felt like the price was worth what I was getting. Just because it is selling for less now doesn’t mean I should feel like I deserve a better price after the fact. I have to remind myself that when I made the decision to buy, I felt it was worth the price I paid at that time and I need to still be happy with my purchase.
I'm not sure that it's reasonable to call it unfair if you're not receiving as much discount as you would like at the time you would like.
Sure it is. I own all the content available, it isn't unreasonable to assume that you would be treated the same way as anyone else that owns all the content. Now, because it was a digital purchase, I have no opportunity to return my purchase and wait for the legendary bundle to go on sale. At the very least, the fact that purchasing everything does not include you in the same category as people that purchased everything in a slightly different way (and again, many of which have purchased it for cheaper), should have been made abundantly clear.
That’s why most digital purchases are final at time of purchase. I can see getting a refund if it’s corrupted, but returning for a refund after the fact because someone paid a different price??? That’s not how it works.
That’s why most digital purchases are final at time of purchase. I can see getting a refund if it’s corrupted, but returning for a refund after the fact because someone paid a different price??? That’s not how it works.
Welcome to e-commerce
My objection is that I was under the impression that owning all content was equivalent to getting the legendary bundle. That is not the case. My mistake, obviously, however it is not unreasonable to try to rectify the situation.
Where I'm from, and in several other countries, any purchase made online can be cancelled within 30 days, for any reason whatsoever (such as figuring out you've gotten a pretty bad deal). Which makes a lot of sense, in particular when there are no packaging/shipping fees, only a reversible licensing fee. Perhaps a good lesson for me as a recent transfer to the USA that such protections are not present here.
Particularly, I might add, now that I've read the D&DBeyond T&Cs, which include a clarification that you don't own what you buy from them, they can take it away from you at any time, and they can delete your account and take your purchased content for any reason, including "no reason at all".
In theory however when a 25% discount on the legendary bundle does come along again you should be able to upgrade for nothing, or even get a new book (should one be out) for very little cost. It works because it credits you what you have already spent towards the bundle and not based on what products you own. Thus if you paid more before getting the legendary bundle you will get a larger portion credited later should you buy the legendary bundle (using a bundle discount code could likely get you to the point you may even get a free product or at least a very cheap one), if you paid less then you get a smaller portion credited later (even to the point where it costs you to upgrade despite getting no products).
Particularly, I might add, now that I've read the D&DBeyond T&Cs, which include a clarification that you don't own what you buy from them, they can take it away from you at any time, and they can delete your account and take your purchased content for any reason, including "no reason at all".
That's not unusual. Pretty much all digital content from anyone you don't actually own, you are just licencing it from them, and that licence can be revoked. Amazon do it with Kindle books, Apple do it with movies and music. Can find stories of people losing access to their digital content due to that content being removed from the relevant platform.
I just bought the Legendary bundle with a code from PAX Unplugged. It gave me the 25% off. I don't know if I am allowed to post it here, but it's from Unplugged 18
I just bought the Legendary bundle with a code from PAX Unplugged. It gave me the 25% off. I don't know if I am allowed to post it here, but it's from Unplugged 18
From nothing to a full set of "books" i spent roughly $311 USD. I bought 22 items and applied a 25% off coupon in addition to the Cyber Monday discount. I now have the ability to pay $98 USD to "complete" the Legendary Bundle, but have no desire to do so. The last time the bundle was 25% off (PAX Prime 2018) it was $298 USD for everything. I walked away with Ravnica and Mad Mage for a few dollars extra. They probably won't have another deal for a long while, so strike while the iron is hot.
EDIT: I hightly reccomend looking at DMSGuild before its Cyber Monday deals vanish. Great PDF version of Ebberon on there at a discount as well.
So I have yet to buy a book on DnD Beyond. Was looking at the Legendary Package. But with the BF cost of books and using a code on top of it I can pay $311 for all 22 source books (not sure how the Legendary gets 28 books???).
Legendary: $414.78
All Books Seperate: $414.78 - discount code = 311.08
That is a difference of $103.70
Am I missing something here??? The 15% discount for the future does not seem work it...
Also wish the would release the rest of the MTG (Magic the Gathering) world kits like Amonkhet, Ixalan, Innistrad, etc
I bought them today for the $311.08. Other than the 15% discount on future purchases, it gives everything. Just purchase the Legendary set next time a book comes out, should only cost you $20ish. Or just keep using whatever the current 25% discount is at the time.
I'd expect people aren't missing stuff on this as it seems the individual purchases come out to what a 25% off on a legendary bundle would result in. Thus the trick would be to upgrade later once one of those 25% Legendary bundle discounts is active.
As it is for those of us that don't want everything this puts prices around the level of a discounted legendary bundle (or cheaper) per part.
Thanks for the deals D&D Beyond :)
- Loswaith
The tales from the yawning portal are 7 short adventures in 1. That accounts for the extra 6.
That may be - Tales lists each adventure as a separate sources and I hadn't realized that before. Apparently reading comprehension isn't my friend.
I noticed the discrepancy in buying the Legendary Bundle after owning some of the individual books myself.
i.e. I bought the entire 22 book library today, as it was a heck of a sale and my group is likely to be switching to 5th soon. As a test (I had the time) I bought 21 books using Samisourhero - everything EXCEPT Kwalish. I think it was Kwalish. It was one of the 9.99 ones.
Since there are 22 separate books listed in the Legendary bundle (and based on DxJxC's comments about TftYP being 7 separate sources because MATH!) that means I should have only had 1 book left over. And that based, on the reduction the Legendary Bundle stipulations on the site, meantit should have cost me like...10 bucks minus the 15% discount built in.
When I went to try to buy the Legendary bundle it gave me a cost of more than 100$ (Sorry, didn't write down the exact total).
I bought Kwalish using the fall25 code(hey, two bucks is two bucks!) and it took the Legendary Bundle down to a cost of $98.70.
If I had to hazard a guess, it's because the following:
(Disclaimer - this is Supposition and Hypothesis. DO NOT take what I'm going to say below and scream that Curse/Twitch/Amazon/The Illuminati are trying to rob you of your money)
Intentional or otherwise - the sale prices are fouling out the system's calculation of the Legendary Bundle. It's looking at your account and saying 'Oh, you own Guildmaster's Guide to Ravnica! GREAT! We will pull the cost off your Legendary Bundle!' Then the system is looking at the current price, $19.99 and removing THAT amount rather than the standard $29.99.
This would MAYBE be possible to verify if I still had access to the individual costs of the books. Quick addition, multiplication, some subtraction, a little cyan pepper...and results.
The only other reason why the Legendary Bundle would be so much is if there are hidden sources in there they don't mention. Possible, but I think by now the community would be aware. I mean, I can see having a small surcharge in there for the future 15% off discount...but with nearly a $100.00 charge, that means you'd have to buy 21.7 books normally priced at 29.99 to start seeing the benefit of that discount.
The question I'd have is...if I'm right (and there's a first time for everything) - once the sale is over will this revert? Is there any way to get the full credit of our purchase on the bundle? Sure, i can't buy it now - cuz there's nothing left for me to buy in the marketplace...but I'd like to get it in the future.
NOTE: Edited because apparently typing at 03:00 PT isn't my friend, either.
I can explain some of the marketplace mechanics around Legendary bundles.
The price of the Legendary Bundle is reduced by the amount you have spent.
If you were to purchase a Player's Handbook for $29.99 then the price of the Legendary Bundle would be reduced by $29.99.
If you were to purchase that Player's Handbook during the Cyber Monday sale ($19.99 base) using a special offer code for further reduction to $14.99, then the price of the Legendary Bundle would be reduced by only $14.99
This doesn't change - the system knows how much you spent on your purchases and it is this amount that is credited towards the Legendary Bundle.
We understand that people desire as much discount as possible, but there have to be limits. If purchasing the Player's Handbook for $14.99 gave you $29.99 of credit towards the Legendary Bundle, then using discount codes for the Legendary Bundle on top of that would result in a massive overall discount.
It is possible to purchase the books slightly cheaper than the Legendary Bundle, by using the sale and combining with special offers.
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If you need help with homebrew, please post on the homebrew forums, where multiple staff and moderators can read your post and help you!
"We got this, no problem! I'll take the twenty on the left - you guys handle the one on the right!"🔊
Cool - thanks for the clarification. I honestly saw it being something along those lines and is both logical AND fair from a marketing standpoint. This is a company after all - and at the end of the day, as much as you're obviously trying to give people discounts - if you're not making money,..
Well, we all know how that would end.
I've spent more on all of the books individually than someone would buying the legendary bundle at 25% discount, which I know many people have. Yet I still would need to pay $80 more to get the legendary bundle discount. That's hardly fair, is it?
Sales come and go, as do discount codes - that's the nature of modern retail and, as demonstrated by the threads over the weekend, it is something that people not only expect, but pretty much demand.
It means that it's possible to purchase content at a lower cost by waiting for specific circumstances.
It's like buying some new clothes and then a month later they are on half price sale - yes, you are a little annoyed that you could have waited, but similarly there was no guarantee of that sale and you have had a month of use out of them already.
I'm not sure that it's reasonable to call it unfair if you're not receiving as much discount as you would like at the time you would like.
Pun-loving nerd | She/Her/Hers | Profile art by Becca Golins
If you need help with homebrew, please post on the homebrew forums, where multiple staff and moderators can read your post and help you!
"We got this, no problem! I'll take the twenty on the left - you guys handle the one on the right!"🔊
I have always looked at it this way when I bought an item and then it went on sale later....
Sure it is. I own all the content available, it isn't unreasonable to assume that you would be treated the same way as anyone else that owns all the content. Now, because it was a digital purchase, I have no opportunity to return my purchase and wait for the legendary bundle to go on sale. At the very least, the fact that purchasing everything does not include you in the same category as people that purchased everything in a slightly different way (and again, many of which have purchased it for cheaper), should have been made abundantly clear.
That’s why most digital purchases are final at time of purchase. I can see getting a refund if it’s corrupted, but returning for a refund after the fact because someone paid a different price??? That’s not how it works.
Welcome to e-commerce
My objection is that I was under the impression that owning all content was equivalent to getting the legendary bundle. That is not the case. My mistake, obviously, however it is not unreasonable to try to rectify the situation.
Where I'm from, and in several other countries, any purchase made online can be cancelled within 30 days, for any reason whatsoever (such as figuring out you've gotten a pretty bad deal). Which makes a lot of sense, in particular when there are no packaging/shipping fees, only a reversible licensing fee. Perhaps a good lesson for me as a recent transfer to the USA that such protections are not present here.
Particularly, I might add, now that I've read the D&DBeyond T&Cs, which include a clarification that you don't own what you buy from them, they can take it away from you at any time, and they can delete your account and take your purchased content for any reason, including "no reason at all".
In theory however when a 25% discount on the legendary bundle does come along again you should be able to upgrade for nothing, or even get a new book (should one be out) for very little cost.
It works because it credits you what you have already spent towards the bundle and not based on what products you own. Thus if you paid more before getting the legendary bundle you will get a larger portion credited later should you buy the legendary bundle (using a bundle discount code could likely get you to the point you may even get a free product or at least a very cheap one), if you paid less then you get a smaller portion credited later (even to the point where it costs you to upgrade despite getting no products).
- Loswaith
That's not unusual. Pretty much all digital content from anyone you don't actually own, you are just licencing it from them, and that licence can be revoked. Amazon do it with Kindle books, Apple do it with movies and music. Can find stories of people losing access to their digital content due to that content being removed from the relevant platform.
I just bought the Legendary bundle with a code from PAX Unplugged. It gave me the 25% off. I don't know if I am allowed to post it here, but it's from Unplugged 18
Try posting it here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/forums/d-d-beyond-general/general-discussion/21324-what-are-the-current-active-d-d-beyond-coupon?page=5